Chris Caputo 📈⬆️⬆️

[IncaneInTheBrain]

...appreciate everyone's insights. I'm rooting for (MSSt) Chris Jan's myself (they have a big game Saturday vs Kentucky and will be easy top 10 if they win.)

Just an idle thought, the rather new and very unsettled portal and nIL world is inarguably quite challenging. Certainly different than past decades and Coach L didnt seem to really prosper therein...

...one point could be that 10-20 years of solid HC success might not necessarily equate to equal success in the new world we have, and the required drastic rebuilding needed, in culture-challenging nIL-Miami.

No clue what skills and experiences would therefore be best, but somehow think old-school might not be spot on. I hope the hiring powers that be are wise and wary.

We should consider ourselves lucky if the "hiring powers that be" make it out of the house with pants on.

 

[King of Allapattah]

Fair but very different circumstances.

It was well known that Mario was NOT a high level football mind. And JD was a promotion with no experience from a failed staff.

Both were either objectively bad or highly questionable hires. I certainly wanted neither… though I thought maybe Mario could work if they outspent his limitations.

Chris left at the pinnacle of Miami’s program building success, has learned some lessons as a HC, and is halfway through the best GW season in a long, long time. And Chris - unlike Mario - is a really smart dude and a smart basketball mind.

Be as it may, Mario was much more experienced and qualified for the football job coming in than Caputo is at this point. More the reason that we should be looking at better options.

 

[King of Allapattah]

...appreciate everyone's insights. I'm rooting for (MSSt) Chris Jan's myself (they have a big game Saturday vs Kentucky and will be easy top 10 if they win.)

Just an idle thought, the rather new and very unsettled portal and nIL world is inarguably quite challenging. Certainly different than past decades and Coach L didnt seem to really prosper therein...

...one point could be that 10-20 years of solid HC success might not necessarily equate to equal success in the new world we have, and the required drastic rebuilding needed, in culture-challenging nIL-Miami.

No clue what skills and experiences would therefore be best, but somehow think old-school might not be spot on. I hope the hiring powers that be are wise and wary.

Great point. I think the ideal hire would be experienced, not too old in age and a proven track record of building and winning.

Your horse in this race may be just the one.

 

[AmherstCane]

If we settle on Caputo, we’re not serious about basketball. Only reason he’s being mentioned on this board is because he was a long time assistant of Coach L. Without that connection he’s be an afterthought. Plain and simple.

Many here chastise our football and baseball programs for hiring form within and rightfully so when our administration is lazy and settling in the easy hire.

We’ve got a chance to take a big step here with a hire and build off of what Coach L’s built. Need a guy with a winning track record and more experience. 2 years at the helm of a mediocre mid major is hardly what I want for this program if we’re trying get better.

So I guess Duke is not serious about basketball?

This is the foolish fallacy that leads to the recirculation of flawed head coaches and predictably mediocre results.

Of course if we get a guy like Jans that has substantially improved every program he’s ever been at and has no real problematic baggage, amazing. But there are very, very few of those guys out there, and even a real commitment to basketball doesn’t guarantee that you’re going to get one of them.

Either way I’ll be happy to circle back to this thread in a few years when Caputo is one of the hotter names in coaching.

 

[Canes2000]

It's crazy that some think that a coach like Jans would leave the SEC come here. Of course I would want him here but I just dont see that happening.

More realistically, I think Caputo would be good but I am concerned that he's had two mediocre seasons at GW and actually regressed his 2nd year and it is still early this year. Of the longtime Laranaaga assistants I would actually prefer Konkol who has a longer track record as a succesful head coach.

I would prefer an elite defensive coach like Ross Hodge over any Laranaaga assitant. I think Grant Macasland is one of the best coaches in college basketball right now, especially defensively, and Hodge has learned from him and picked up where he left off at North Texas. I really believe that he will be a special head coach that I don't want the Canes to miss out on.

After seeing how elite defenses have driven the Heat success under Riley and Spoelstra and the Cane's success during Laranaaga's best years I think it would be a mistake to go for an offensive coach or top recruiter like Calipari instead. Calipari's teams consistently under perform.

 

[King of Allapattah]

So I guess Duke is not serious about basketball?

This is the foolish fallacy that leads to the recirculation of flawed head coaches and predictably mediocre results.

Of course if we get a guy like Jans that has substantially improved every program he’s ever been at and has no real problematic baggage, amazing. But there are very, very few of those guys out there, and even a real commitment to basketball doesn’t guarantee that you’re going to get one of them.

Either way I’ll be happy to circle back to this thread in a few years when Caputo is one of the hotter names in coaching.

Where do I start? When it comes to basketball there’s a huge difference between Duke and Miami. Scheyer was groomed for that position and hand picked by Coach K to replace him. Furthermore, with the resources and branding behind the duke program, just about anyone would’ve been able to step in. Duke brand sells itself. I hope you don’t think it was Scheyer who was the deciding factor for the boozer twins. Listen, I get it. You like Caputo. I do too. Just not to the extent where I’d take him without exhausting all avenues. I think first order of business is to get the most qualified. By that I mean experience and winner. Two things Caputo doesn’t have right now.

 

[AmherstCane]

It's crazy that some think that a coach like Jans would leave the SEC come here. Of course I would want him here but I just dont see that happening.

More realistically, I think Caputo would be good but I am concerned that he's had two mediocre seasons at GW and actually regressed his 2nd year and it is still early this year. Of the longtime Laranaaga assistants I would actually prefer Konkol who has a longer track record as a succesful head coach.

I would prefer an elite defensive coach like Ross Hodge over any Laranaaga assitant. I think Grant Macasland is one of the best coaches in college basketball right now, especially defensively, and Hodge has learned from him and picked up where he left off at North Texas. I really believe that he will be a special head coach that I don't want the Canes to miss out on.

After seeing how elite defenses have driven the Heat success under Riley and Spoelstra and the Cane's success during Laranaaga's best years I think it would be a mistake to go for an offensive coach or top recruiter like Calipari instead. Calipari's teams consistently under perform.

Konkol would be an absolutely terrible hire. Terrific guy. Good coach. Walked into a great situation at La Tech and maintained the status quo for his tenure. Walked into a tough situation at Tulsa and is still floundering badly.

Caputo walked into a terrible situation at GW and has them on track for their best season in a long time.

And all of that is without understanding/crediting Caputo’s behind the scenes NIL and program/infrastructure building skills… which really sets him apart.

 

[AmherstCane]

Where do I start? When it comes to basketball there’s a huge difference between Duke and Miami. Scheyer was groomed for that position and hand picked by Coach K to replace him. Furthermore, with the resources and branding behind the duke program, just about anyone would’ve been able to step in. Duke brand sells itself. I hope you don’t think it was Scheyer who was the deciding factor for the boozer twins. Listen, I get it. You like Caputo. I do too. Just not to the extent where I’d take him without exhausting all avenues. I think first order of business is to get the most qualified. By that I mean experience and winner. Two things Caputo doesn’t have right now.

You think it’s a coincidence that Caputo left and Miami basketball went from being on a moonshot trajectory to a total meltdown? hint: It’s not.

 

[Angry Ibis]

The Battle of Caputo is showing more fight than the team has most games.

 

[casualcane]

I think any final list should include Chris. It most likely will depending on whatever happens with Jans.

I still like Mark Schmidt. He checks all the boxes with what he's done at St Bonaventure. That being said, I think Caputo has him beat in the networking aspect and tbh is probably more of a savvy NiL guy

 

[Highline17]

We need someone who can build on L’s success, but isn’t apart of that regime. Caputo is a good coach, but he’s not the kind of coach we should be looking at rn. We need someone with prestige, not a throwback. Maybe we turn back here in 6 years after Caputo has moved onto bigger and better things.

 

[hotshot]

...appreciate everyone's insights. I'm rooting for (MSSt) Chris Jan's myself (they have a big game Saturday vs Kentucky and will be easy top 10 if they win.)

Just an idle thought, the rather new and very unsettled portal and nIL world is inarguably quite challenging. Certainly different than past decades and Coach L didnt seem to really prosper therein...

...one point could be that 10-20 years of solid HC success might not necessarily equate to equal success in the new world we have, and the required drastic rebuilding needed, in culture-challenging nIL-Miami.

No clue what skills and experiences would therefore be best, but somehow think old-school might not be spot on. I hope the hiring powers that be are wise and wary.

Omier and Miller were pretty darn good Portal pickups, as was Pack early-on.

 

[hotshot]

I think any final list should include Chris. It most likely will depending on whatever happens with Jans.

I still like Mark Schmidt. He checks all the boxes with what he's done at St Bonaventure. That being said, I think Caputo has him beat in the networking aspect and tbh is probably more of a savvy NiL guy

Schmidt has done a lot with the Bonnies but ... I think that's his level.

Jans? Now you're talking.

 

[casualcane]

Jans wouldn't come here without assurances of a significant commitment to NiL. Tbh, I don't think most coaches would

 

[GrozDozer]

When Coach L was on top of his game, Chris was by his side. Wins and losses aside, Coach L is up there with some of the best regarding BB knowledge and teaching ability and Caputo is a disciple. Good coach, good fit, good guy. Would be a mistake to overlook him.

Also we start getting tickets again. Lol

 

[BWCD]

I'd view Caputo with an extremely heavy "show me" slant if we hired him. He would need to come in and make things dynamic and successful in a real hurry for me to buy in. He wouldn't be getting the benefit of the doubt for a "slow build" from me.

That being said - I think the best coaching staff we've had was the 2013 staff with L, Caputo, Eric Konkol, and Michael Huger. Even if Konkol and Huger haven't had great runs as HC's, they were great assistants to L. I think that's one thing a lot of us are whiffing on when it comes to discussing who the next HC is - will he have a really good complementary staff that can help them build a solid program that can get back to ACC and postseason success? Assistants are as important as the head guy.

I think still that the best realistic option I've seen so far is Jans. And I'll trumpet this at every opportunity - we need to pick up the phone and call Steve Forbes to see if he wants to come to Miami from Wake Forest...but knowing my luck, watch me say that and we somehow find a way to play them close or beat them tomorrow

 

[Groz73Cane]

Also we start getting tickets again. Lol

That would be a welcome benefit

 

[casualcane]

Adam Fisher was a good assistant as well. He’s at Temple now as HC with Huger as AHC

 

[BWCD]

Adam Fisher was a good assistant as well. He’s at Temple now as HC with Huger as AHC

Agreed. Fisher's first year at Miami as an analyst was with that 2013 staff I mentioned.

 

[hotshot]

Jans wouldn't come here without assurances of a significant commitment to NiL. Tbh, I don't think most coaches would

He's well paid and I'd bet has a substantial buyout as well there in Starkville.