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WeBallinBoyz said:
Remember when we were only blue chip hunting back in early a July.

The term blue chip is pretty relative these days I guess…blue chip, no chip…same thing.
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We know our coach didn't just forget how to recruit.Our insiders keep telling us our NIL is as strong as ever(I don't buy it)All the kids who were high on us earlier knew we had finished 5-7 last year and it didn't seem to matter then,just what the **** is going on?
 

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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think Skinner breaks out this year. I know Arroyo is the top dog, but 10 months off an ACL scares me. Skinner is going to have an opportunity to show what he can do a ton in camp and I think he’s going to seize it. He reminds me a lot of Chris Herndon, he just needed a year in the weight room. The fluidity, the slipperiness, the way he glides. And one thing that really popped to me last year was the first defender rarely tackled him. That’s a significant skill, and to be able to show it as a true freshman, I believe that will show up throughout his career and only improve as he puts on size and strength.
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Skinner will definitely be a weapon in the passing game. That was quite a coup for Mario when he got here. I’m with you on Arroyo, I think that’s also why we brought in the blocking TE from Oregon. There’s too many questions at the position but yes really nice potential
 
Odin said:
We know our coach didn't just forget how to recruit.Our insiders keep telling us our NIL is as strong as ever(I don't buy it)All the kids who were high on us earlier knew we had finished 5-7 last year and it didn't seem to matter then,just what the **** is going on?
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Pretty easy to figure out. NIL deals are not like last year. Pretty evident.
 
M3N said:
Pretty easy to figure out. NIL deals are not like last year. Pretty evident.
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I would also add that I think last year was a big adjustment for a lot of schools when it comes to NIL. To varying degrees some programs have really taken a leap Florida/Michigan types

Some are a little in the middle Oregon/USC/Texas etc that were big last year

USC I know still has a lot of time to make a move just saying the first year bumps were a real thing as well
 
Odin said:
We know our coach didn't just forget how to recruit.Our insiders keep telling us our NIL is as strong as ever(I don't buy it)All the kids who were high on us earlier knew we had finished 5-7 last year and it didn't seem to matter then,just what the **** is going on?
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It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
 
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Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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What about our infrastructure is lacking comparatively?
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place
like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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How far behind are we in terms of the highest paying schools? In terms of how much we are spending are we like a top 15-20 school or no?
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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Thanks for you reply,this makes a ton of sense.I would just say if our budget is slightly larger than last year but the competition has surpassed us then is not as strong as ever as with inflation last years prices are not this years prices and so we're not as strong as ever.We're worse/weaker than last year even with a larger budget.
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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All those nickel and dime donors at Big State U, really add up in the long run. It's why I said when people were jumping up and down thinking we'd be NIL kings, you better watch out for Big State U. Nevermind the football factories that the elites are.

I'm not slandering anyone that gives anything or big donors that give a **** ton, but we're not a big alumni base and that puts a big ask at the foot of the big donors we have. The elites and next tier have guys like that as well and massive alumni bases to pull from.

Like you said gotta produce on the field, in the draft, and then there's the money issue too.
 
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Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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Lance - not that anything is going to change but out of curiosity - is Miami better set up to succeed in the NIL era with Mario & Rad or prior to NIL if they had Mario & Rad?
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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Thought Miami was top 5 in NIL….hmmm
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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Better regain the budgetary advantages then! Need to land the good players to win. Path 1 leads to path 2
 
Lance Roffers said:
So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.
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Thank you…This is what I expected was going on. Glad to hear someone reliable summarize.

Seems to me that is what is going on with Pierre-Luis, Barney, and a couple others…Awesome plan B…In fact, kids that could one day be starters. But teams that are building from below are making them their top targets and outbidding us.
 
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Odin said:
We know our coach didn't just forget how to recruit.Our insiders keep telling us our NIL is as strong as ever(I don't buy it)All the kids who were high on us earlier knew we had finished 5-7 last year and it didn't seem to matter then,just what the **** is going on?
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It’s not as strong as ever because others learned and got better. We have other people besides Ruiz, that’s for certain. They’ve thought their offers were good but apparently not so much as they thought. I think our people have overestimated our brand and underestimated the damage done by last season. Suck it slurpers, it’s a massive problem.

We shock and awed people last year. We’re getting beat in NIL because other schools have organized and done better. They’re broader based with donors and my guess is that they’re paying more because it’s more important to them and they have the ability to. Look at the gator. That’s all you have to see to know. Billy boy isn’t a coaching savant or a better recruiter than Mario on an apples to apples basis but with NIL in place he’s cleaning Mario’s clock. All of a sudden he’s just a better recruiter??? Lol

And I think you’re right about 5-7 And when you couple that with other teams within our level paying what they have to - well… that’s what I think is happening.
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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Lol just saw this after I posted. Thanks, Lance. This confirms a lot and really explains the squeeze factor.
 
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I have no clue where Chance will ultimately sign, but there was a time when a commitment from an STA player was a rock solid commitment. That’s the way it was under Coach Smith and Rocco. That’s just not the case anyone with Harriott. Harriott’s players flip all the time, and it started before NIL. I don’t know if it’s just the kids, or if Harriott just doesn’t have the same influence over the players that Coach Smith and Rocco had. The strength of the commitment used to set STA players apart. Now STA is just like any other school.
 
Lance Roffers said:
It’s honestly true that our NIL is as strong as ever. In fact, the budget is slightly larger this year.

What’s been overlooked by our administration is that much of the NIL success was about being first to market. The competition has had time to build infrastructure and not only catch up, but far surpass Miami.

Add to it that teams that have traditionally sucked have grown their NIL to a place as to be a nuisance for the next tier down of recruits, so there aren’t even freebies down there for a place like Miami. Alabama it Georgia can get that tier for cheap because it’s them. For Miami, that isn’t happening.

So what has occurred is Miami is finding itself in a place where they are falling just short for the tier ones right now because they have a budget and aren’t doubling up the competition in NIL, while also having to fight for the second and third tier prospects with teams in that same position Miami is in for the five stars, of offering more for those prospects. It’s just to those programs, they’re more like plan A prospects.

The net effect is Miami getting squeezed into a middle space between the tier one and two prospects and falling into a bit of a miscalculation of the market this year.

There are two paths forward: regain the budgetary advantages they previously had, or win lots of games on the field and put players high in the NFL Draft.
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Winning cures "Everything"...bottomline.
 
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