That is the only place FSU has outpaced us: D-Line.
Granted it is the second most important position on the field and makes a HUGE difference.
But other than that, would you trade our roster with their's at any position?
QB: I will take Morris, Olsen and Dewey over Winston, Trickett and Coker
RB: Duke over any of their guys
WR: Wash, maybe slight edge to us
OL: Big edge for us
DL: Them
LB: Love our potential, Christian Jones is a stud for them though and probably better than any of our guys...Toss up
DB: Us
I'm sorry but this is homerism at its best. At QB we have an edge this year but going forward Winston has more raw talent than Olsen. At RB they are way better at this point because of depth. Freeman, Wilder and Pender are light years ahead of every back we have not named Duke. WR is close to a toss but they have as much of a claim to that one as us, Greene is a stud. OL and DL you are spot on. I feel we have an edge at TE also. Their LBs are better, especially if Eddie doesn't come back. Both of our secondaries are stacked.
Quick... name the last 1,000 yard rusher from FSwho.
Most of FSwho's fans have no clue who that RB was. FSU may have elite RB's stacked on their roster but they use them for ****. EJ Manual was a 5th year starter last season and he never impressed me at all. Most of his stats were piled up against scrubs. This idea that Miami is so far behind in the talent department is a joke. Did any of you watch their games last year? They didn't impress me at all. Had FSU played a "big time" SEC school last year they would have been dismantled. **** the Gators were hot trash in the SEC last year and they beat them down physically and FSU lost the game???
you have some team spirit and that is fine, but there is a healthy amount of stupid in this post.
Yeah and opinions are like ********...
Care to elaborate on all of this stupidity? I watched FSU all year long and they never impressed me once. At no time did I think they were anywhere close to being an elite "big boy" football team while they cruised through that sorry excuse of a schedule. Also, FSU supposedly has all of this RB talent but yet Miami's true freshman RB rushed for more yards than all of their studs??? Hmmmmm?
alright, ill bite.
-a 1 loss run in the SEC speaks for itself, your statement on Florida does as well so I need not go there. The quality of their offense is subpar, and they could have easily lost another game or two, but they didn't.
-regardless of the level of out of conference competition, fsu outscored their conference opponents by 200 points (22+ a game good for second among conference champs, oregon withstanding since they did not win the pac 12) which you knew since you watched them all season. Other auto qualifier conference champs? Louisville 24, Stanford 100, Wisonsin 134, Kansas St 140, Alabama 217. Mind you, in a conference that while not the SEC, fared well in bowl games this year (4-2).
- wether you are "impressed" by it or not, a 12 win team with a BCS bowl trophy, is a huge season.
everyone here, including myself would be slobbing Golden's **** if he pulled that off, regardless of wether it "impressed"
a member of a rivals fan base.
-on the rushing points you make, we have had ONE 1,000 yard rusher in the last 9 years. you should probably drop that as a point of end all measure as you seem to use it,
since football is becoming more and more a running back by commitee game. I guess I wouldn't have wanted Marriota's 752 yards on 106 carries, or D'Anthony Thomas' 701 on 92 either, since they weren't thousand yard rushers. I guess the likes of Ronnie Brown, Jahvid Best, Joseph Addai, didn't have significant campaigns, rushing for under 1000 yards their last season. Oh wait, they were first or second round draft picks.
-In case you didn't notice, (although i'm sure you did since you watched them all year), 3 players on the FSU roster got over 100 carries last year, and one had over 90. what does that translate to? RB depth of essentially interchangable talent, and nobody with over 111 carries in a 14 game season. a concept which is seemingly lost on you.
- while I absolutely agree that Miami is
catching up in talent, we will just have to let the NFL draft totals from the 2013-2016 drafts answer that question. I hate to say it, but I would wager that FSU wins in that department at the end of that run.
Like you say, everyone has an opinion, its just that mine are based on factual statistics, and on field results to reflect them. Did Fsu under achieve considering their recruiting over the last four years and a 5th year qb? yeah, they probably did, they shouldn't have lost to NC state. On that I guess we agree.