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Cam Ward; 4300 39 and 7 on 67% plus 5 rushing TDs

TVD: 2700 19 and 12 on 65.8% plus 1 rushing TD

Based on those numbers, is it really crazy to say that if the roster stays as is, meaning we don’t get a Wingo or Williams or JS freak at WR that expecting Beck to be closer to TVD than Ward is this crazy talk?
 
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BoxingRobes said:
lol.

there are plenty of players that start in the P4, not all of them are P4 quality starting quarterbacks.

Emory Williams isn't a P4 starting QB either, and he's started games. TVD, too. He's going to be a 24 year old backup for his old offensive coordinator instead of working for TopGolf and the guy we took is likely the highest paid transfer QB from a national title contending team.

These two players are not the same.

I'd have accepted a Beck -> Kaaya comparison over TVD. TVD stinks.
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So TVD starting 30 plus games at the P4 level is somehow equivalent to Emory starting 2? And somehow starting 30 such games at the P4 level, somehow makes that player not starter material? Okay man…
 
bobbydigius said:
So TVD starting 30 plus games at the P4 level is somehow equivalent to Emory starting 2? And somehow starting 30 such games at the P4 level, somehow makes that player not starter material? Okay man…
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and he stunk in most of them, especially after his initial run as a backup that became the starter.

He showed OVER those 30 games he was unworthy of starting at this level and now is not. The guy you compared him to became the highest paid player on the market...the same market TVD was in.
 
BoxingRobes said:
and he stunk in most of them, especially after his initial run as a backup that became the starter.

He showed OVER those 30 games he was unworthy of starting at this level and now is not. The guy you compared him to became the highest paid player on the market...the same market TVD was in.
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So let’s reframe this because we clearly do not see eye to eye on TVD and arguing about him is pointless now since he is gone. I think there will be a sizeable drop off from Cam to Beck. I still think we can win the ACC with Beck but we won’t be able to put everything on his back and I see Beck putting up similar numbers to his 24 campaign.
 
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TVD isn’t close to Beck. Did y’all not watch him before he got hurt at Wisky? He was god awful there too. TVD is closer to Robert Marve than he is Beck.
 
MumbleRap said:
TVD isn’t close to Beck. Did y’all not watch him before he got hurt at Wisky? He was god awful there too. TVD is closer to Robert Marve than he is Beck.
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It's insane that people are even writing both names in the same post.

TVD single handedly lost to Middle Tennessee State. He let 6-6 Georgia Tech break his brain. He went for 160 yards 0 TDs and 2 INTs against a 3 win UVA team.

People are trying to compare a 439 yard 3 TD 3 INT performance @ #11 Alabama to absolutely s***ing the bed against 3 win ACC teams. They're trying to compare 175 yards and 3 INTs @ #4 Texas to 163 yards 0 TDs and 2 INTs at home to 3-9 UVA.
 
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bobbydigius said:
Cam Ward; 4300 39 and 7 on 67% plus 5 rushing TDs
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bobbydigius said:
TVD: 2700 19 and 12 on 65.8% plus 1 rushing TD

Based on those numbers, is it really crazy to say that if the roster stays as is, meaning we don’t get a Wingo or Williams or JS freak at WR that expecting Beck to be closer to TVD than Ward is this crazy talk?
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Since you’re going with the most recent success of these two. Comparing with Becks 2023 season: Only passing stats.

Difference from Cam: -359 yards, -11 TDs and -1 INT

Difference from TVD: +1,241 yards, +5 TDS, -6 INT

Now you could also reasonably compare Becks down 2024 season and taking into account Georgias offensive woes…even adding half of their dropped yards he would’ve been within ~~350-400 yards of Cam last season and certainly eclipse 30 TDs last season. We saw how that offense looked without Beck.

He is much closer to Cam than TVD. I don’t think Beck is all world, but maybe he is in a new situation. There’s more evidence to suggest Beck could have an uptick in production closer to Cam than regressing all the way down to TVD.
 
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