Canes v Salute the Hoot (FAU)

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I would say any of those guys have ever had a team full of talent. Especially not Cutcliffe and Peterson, which nullifies your point that players make coaches. Patterson might have had the best talent of all of them but it wasn't anywhere near the powerhouse programs' talent levels. So those coaches made those players better and built those programs.

No, they brought in better players than the coaches before them. And when the talent isn't there, all of a sudden their magical coaching skills seem to disappear. How could Patterson ever go 4-8 if he is the one who makes the players and not the other way around.

Youth. Injuries. Bad year. That was the exception not the rule. The man has had quite a successful tenure there. It's funny you ignore the BCS bowl appearances and the win last year.

So when the talent isn't there, he doesn't win. Where have I heard that before.

Yeah HE recruits the talent, coaches/developes, and puts them in position to win. He doesn't automatically gets NFL caliber players. By this coaches make players then visa versa. I'll say it's 70-30 coaches/players.

How do I know this? ****ing Golden. He has the players to consistently dominate the Coastal but....has yet to play in the championship game. He had a freshman or hurt qb??? That's enough to win the Coastal. Coaches make the players more then players make coaches. That's the beauty of football. It's not like baseball or basketball where there isn't a stop every 15 seconds and plays being called.

I've never said that those guys don't build programs and bring in the players. That's a credit to them. But without the players they are just like everyone else.

That doesn't mean that there aren't BAD coaches. Golden is certainly a bad coach. So was Muschamp. Those guys couldn't win with any amount of talent.
 
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Dallas Crawford is a starter and a captain. What an effin joke. Should never play over Jenkins.

Btw, the refs are worse than our defense
 
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