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I would say any of those guys have ever had a team full of talent. Especially not Cutcliffe and Peterson, which nullifies your point that players make coaches. Patterson might have had the best talent of all of them but it wasn't anywhere near the powerhouse programs' talent levels. So those coaches made those players better and built those programs.

No, they brought in better players than the coaches before them. And when the talent isn't there, all of a sudden their magical coaching skills seem to disappear. How could Patterson ever go 4-8 if he is the one who makes the players and not the other way around.
 
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But he couldn't tweak his own recruits and his own system in his sixth year? Amazing.

He won two ships before that......
Guy wins two ships in 5 years and your argument is that he failed in his sixth? Dude has 3 ships with two different teams and you are cracking on him? I wish we had a HC that got us 2 MNCs and then left us in shambles at this point.

This is what happens when you come in halfway through a discussion. The point was that players makes coaches, not the other way around. Urban Meyer was Larry Coker when he didn't restock the roster.

He had to reload and didn't want to go through the process. Dude won at Bowling Green, then won a BCS bowl at Utah, then two titles at UF, left went to tOSU and they are competing immediately and are the champs in year 2. If you are gonna criticize then who can't you criticize?

Are you this dense? He wins when he has players. When he doesn't have players he doesn't win. This can't be that difficult. Yes, he puts himself in great positions with great players. But don't pretend that he is working miracles with just any kids that sign up.

"He wins when he has players" you mean players he developed and recruited? Who the **** was bowling Green and Utah before him? You act like those 2 schools were powerhouse. He won big at Utah because he puts players in positions or places to win. He'll simplify plays, he'll change the tempo, scheme, calls plays to give his qb confidence. Like for a 3rd string qb. Coaches make players because of this.


Also LMFAO at comparing Meyer to Coker
 
Yeah he ran to Ohio St and won at title with a third string qb. Wtf is your point? Obviously you don't have one .

You missed the point because you're 22 with ADHD.

Players make coaches. Coaches do not make players. Urban Meyer wins because he has phenomenal players. When he fails to stock the roster, he goes 8-5 and fakes heart failure so he can leave and start somewhere else.

Urban won everywhere with 3 NCs. If he had Coker's players he would have won 4 in a row. That is the difference. Shug Jordan said of the Bear: "He can take his and beat yours; then he will take yours and beat his." Jordan had years of battles with Bear, I am going with his theory that coaches matter. Oh, Howard said about the same thing when he took the Miami job.
 
I would say any of those guys have ever had a team full of talent. Especially not Cutcliffe and Peterson, which nullifies your point that players make coaches. Patterson might have had the best talent of all of them but it wasn't anywhere near the powerhouse programs' talent levels. So those coaches made those players better and built those programs.

No, they brought in better players than the coaches before them. And when the talent isn't there, all of a sudden their magical coaching skills seem to disappear. How could Patterson ever go 4-8 if he is the one who makes the players and not the other way around.

Youth. Injuries. Bad year. That was the exception not the rule. The man has had quite a successful tenure there. It's funny you ignore the BCS bowl appearances and the win last year.
 
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I would say any of those guys have ever had a team full of talent. Especially not Cutcliffe and Peterson, which nullifies your point that players make coaches. Patterson might have had the best talent of all of them but it wasn't anywhere near the powerhouse programs' talent levels. So those coaches made those players better and built those programs.

No, they brought in better players than the coaches before them. And when the talent isn't there, all of a sudden their magical coaching skills seem to disappear. How could Patterson ever go 4-8 if he is the one who makes the players and not the other way around.

Youth. Injuries. Bad year. That was the exception not the rule. The man has had quite a successful tenure there. It's funny you ignore the BCS bowl appearances and the win last year.

Yep, Al would have finished 0-12 instead of 4-8...
 
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I would say any of those guys have ever had a team full of talent. Especially not Cutcliffe and Peterson, which nullifies your point that players make coaches. Patterson might have had the best talent of all of them but it wasn't anywhere near the powerhouse programs' talent levels. So those coaches made those players better and built those programs.

No, they brought in better players than the coaches before them. And when the talent isn't there, all of a sudden their magical coaching skills seem to disappear. How could Patterson ever go 4-8 if he is the one who makes the players and not the other way around.

Youth. Injuries. Bad year. That was the exception not the rule. The man has had quite a successful tenure there. It's funny you ignore the BCS bowl appearances and the win last year.

So when the talent isn't there, he doesn't win. Where have I heard that before.
 
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Ok, there's a game still on. Hopefully, Golden looked at the film of the sludge drive in the early part of the first quarter.

Nice run by Yearby.
 
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