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We talking about firing a proven coach for losing one 17 yo kid? Stop trolling.
Loses our highest priority recruit at a dire position of need, who has been a solid commit for a year, a week before signing day to Larry Scott.....

How could you have faith in him going forward?

I believe 145+ wins over 15 years speaks to CMR's capabilities. And if your faith is so easily lost before the dude even has his first practice, then you have to wonder if you had faith to begin with.
 

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Using 2 months to assess an HC's recruiting abilities vs. Using the previous 15 years to assess an HC's recruiting abilities.

Okay man...do you.
Does Saban, Meyer. Etc. lose Byrd in this same situation?

Recruits don't look at miami the way they used too. The last time miami won 10 games i was in middle school. Most of these recruits were in 1st or 2nd grade last time miami was good. and you think it's easy to sell this program right now?

When's the last time Tennessee won anything?

It's that whole sec **** that is in their favor. These recruits want to play in the sec because that's what they see being pushed and advertised on tv. Everytime they talk about miami on tv it's about how horrible every ******* thing is.

LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
 
Does Saban, Meyer. Etc. lose Byrd in this same situation?

Recruits don't look at miami the way they used too. The last time miami won 10 games i was in middle school. Most of these recruits were in 1st or 2nd grade last time miami was good. and you think it's easy to sell this program right now?

When's the last time Tennessee won anything?

It's that whole sec **** that is in their favor. These recruits want to play in the sec because that's what they see being pushed and advertised on tv. Everytime they talk about miami on tv it's about how horrible every ******* thing is.

LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
At least someone here just gets it
 
If these kids want to go to these programs and never be heard of again, then so be it. Ditching Miami for Bama, LSU, FSU, or OSU I get but these schools like Tenn, S.Car don't produce NFL talent remotely close to what we do.
 
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You all are delusional if you don't think losing Byrd speaks huge volumes to his potential here
 
Recruits don't look at miami the way they used too. The last time miami won 10 games i was in middle school. Most of these recruits were in 1st or 2nd grade last time miami was good. and you think it's easy to sell this program right now?

When's the last time Tennessee won anything?

It's that whole sec **** that is in their favor. These recruits want to play in the sec because that's what they see being pushed and advertised on tv. Everytime they talk about miami on tv it's about how horrible every ****ing thing is.

LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
At least someone here just gets it

If yall don't understand the difference between a program like tennessee and kentucky or vandy then i don't know what to tell you.
 
Tennessee just got Callaway, that's 4 CB's in their class, with two already enrolled

Callaway is going to play WR. I kno him personally. The last game he played as a DB, was Warner Robins' last game. At least, that's his plan.

You right, they're still getting Nigel Warrior
 
Recruits don't look at miami the way they used too. The last time miami won 10 games i was in middle school. Most of these recruits were in 1st or 2nd grade last time miami was good. and you think it's easy to sell this program right now?

When's the last time Tennessee won anything?

It's that whole sec **** that is in their favor. These recruits want to play in the sec because that's what they see being pushed and advertised on tv. Everytime they talk about miami on tv it's about how horrible every ****ing thing is.

LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
At least someone here just gets it

Using the only exceptions to validate a faulty argument probably isn't the way to go. And by exception I mean the ONLY two programs in the SEC that couldn't care less about their football program.
 
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We have people asking for banners to fire a coach before he's coached a game if we lose a kid to a school his lead recruiter and roomie is going to, that is currently better than we are. I think Byrd sticks but **** some of the **** yall say never ceases to amaze me.
 
When's the last time Tennessee won anything?

It's that whole sec **** that is in their favor. These recruits want to play in the sec because that's what they see being pushed and advertised on tv. Everytime they talk about miami on tv it's about how horrible every ****ing thing is.

LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
At least someone here just gets it

Using the only exceptions to validate a faulty argument probably isn't the way to go. And by exception I mean the ONLY two programs in the SEC that couldn't care less about their football program.

So now it's not an "SEC thing"? It's a decent football team in the SEC thing? By the way, both Kentucky and Vandy care about football. They're just not very good at it. They both have upped the ante of what they pay coaches and facilities.
 
It's that whole sec **** that is in their favor. These recruits want to play in the sec because that's what they see being pushed and advertised on tv. Everytime they talk about miami on tv it's about how horrible every ****ing thing is.

LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
At least someone here just gets it

Using the only exceptions to validate a faulty argument probably isn't the way to go. And by exception I mean the ONLY two programs in the SEC that couldn't care less about their football program.

So now it's not an "SEC thing"? It's a decent football team in the SEC thing? By the way, both Kentucky and Vandy care about football. They're just not very good at it. They both have upped the ante of what they pay coaches and facilities.

Not at all. It's a priority thing. It is inarguable that Vandy's main priority is academics and UK's is basketball. Everyone else's is football.
 
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LOL. So do Kentucky and Vandy get that same SEC advantage over us?
At least someone here just gets it

Using the only exceptions to validate a faulty argument probably isn't the way to go. And by exception I mean the ONLY two programs in the SEC that couldn't care less about their football program.

So now it's not an "SEC thing"? It's a decent football team in the SEC thing? By the way, both Kentucky and Vandy care about football. They're just not very good at it. They both have upped the ante of what they pay coaches and facilities.

Not at all. It's a priority thing. It is inarguable that Vandy's main priority is academics and UK's is basketball. Everyone else's is football.

I'm having difficulty following the argument because it's floating all over the place.

First, it was "UM can't compete because we haven't won anything."

Then, when I mentioned that UT hasn't won anything either, the argument switched to "Yeah, but it's an SEC thing."

Then, when I mentioned that there are teams in the SEC that aren't very good and don't recruit at our level (you can even add Arkansas, Miss State, South Carolina, and Mizzou to Kentucky and Vandy), it became "Yeah, but i'm only talking about SEC teams that want to win" even though every team in the SEC pays richly for coaches and spends a ton on football facilities.
 
You obviously do not live in Naples and know who Coach Kramer is.The U's coaches respect Fils-Aime,but they don't
trust him to stay healthy;i.e. knees.

Two items to note from a Naples native.One,first recruit for Richt to visit-Tyler Byrd.Second,Byrd's coach is Coach
Kramer.This is not a wishy washy here today gone tomorrow HS coach.This is a coach who has been at same
school over 20 years.And Richt was also here to see the coach.Coach Kramer comment in the paper was Richt
is a person of the highest integrity.
You seriously believe that Coach Kramer would allow one of his players to renege on a commitment!
Tennessee visit to give UM commit Tyler Byrd something to think about
UM got its commitment from Naples four-star cornerback Tyler Byrd on Feb. 3, 2015. Whether the Hurricanes officially bring him in will be known exactly a year later -- National Signing Day 2016.

Byrd, a strong Canes commit for virtually the past year, says he will at least have something to think about when he visits Tennessee on Jan. 29.

"[I have] never visited, so it will be something to pray about and ask for the right guidance," Byrd says.

With Naples teammate and four-star running back Carlin Fils-Aime committed to the Volunteers, the thought of continuing to play with Fils-Aime in college remains in Byrd's mind.

The two have lived together since eighth grade, and if they were to remain together, it could only really happen at Tennessee as Byrd says the new UM staff isn't recruiting Fils-Aime, who committed to the Volunteers on July 30.

Byrd had new UM cornerbacks coach Mike Rumph swing by Naples High on Wednesday and will take his official visit to Coral Gables over the weekend. He says he is definitely taking the Tennessee trip the following weekend and won't change his mind.

Posted by David Furones 01/20/2016 at 03:14 PM in College Commitments, Fall Sports, FHSAA, Football, Recruiting | Permalink

It's not the coaches choice.. Him living with Fils-Aime for so long and having the option to keep living with him and play ball with him at the next level will definitely intrigue him. I would say there's a chance he flips given those circumstances

All I am saying is there is a slim chance he could flip. I don't think he will I believe it is a courtesy visit. But still, getting a kid on campus at gives you a chance
 
At least someone here just gets it

Using the only exceptions to validate a faulty argument probably isn't the way to go. And by exception I mean the ONLY two programs in the SEC that couldn't care less about their football program.

So now it's not an "SEC thing"? It's a decent football team in the SEC thing? By the way, both Kentucky and Vandy care about football. They're just not very good at it. They both have upped the ante of what they pay coaches and facilities.

Not at all. It's a priority thing. It is inarguable that Vandy's main priority is academics and UK's is basketball. Everyone else's is football.

I'm having difficulty following the argument because it's floating all over the place.

First, it was "UM can't compete because we haven't won anything."

Then, when I mentioned that UT hasn't won anything either, the argument switched to "Yeah, but it's an SEC thing."

Then, when I mentioned that there are teams in the SEC that aren't very good and don't recruit at our level (you can even add Arkansas, Miss State, South Carolina, and Mizzou to Kentucky and Vandy), it became "Yeah, but i'm only talking about SEC teams that want to win" even though every team in the SEC pays richly for coaches and spends a ton on football facilities.

Simple enough. The SEC factor is enough for a program like Tennessee, but not Kentucky or Vandy.

"Why?"

Because they suck. The SEC factor only gets you far.
 
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At least someone here just gets it

Using the only exceptions to validate a faulty argument probably isn't the way to go. And by exception I mean the ONLY two programs in the SEC that couldn't care less about their football program.

So now it's not an "SEC thing"? It's a decent football team in the SEC thing? By the way, both Kentucky and Vandy care about football. They're just not very good at it. They both have upped the ante of what they pay coaches and facilities.

Not at all. It's a priority thing. It is inarguable that Vandy's main priority is academics and UK's is basketball. Everyone else's is football.

I'm having difficulty following the argument because it's floating all over the place.

First, it was "UM can't compete because we haven't won anything."

Then, when I mentioned that UT hasn't won anything either, the argument switched to "Yeah, but it's an SEC thing."

Then, when I mentioned that there are teams in the SEC that aren't very good and don't recruit at our level (you can even add Arkansas, Miss State, South Carolina, and Mizzou to Kentucky and Vandy), it became "Yeah, but i'm only talking about SEC teams that want to win" even though every team in the SEC pays richly for coaches and spends a ton on football facilities.

That's fair. Please remember that the first two arguments you referred to were not made by me. My argument can be summed up like this: right now, the SEC is the flavor of the month, and they've done SUCH a great job in "branding" the SEC, that even the mediocre programs like UT, Mizzou, USCe, etc benefit from Alabama's success. Because of the branding and the SEC's mouthpiece (ESPN), the perception is the elite athletes go to the SEC. If that is the starting point for the elite athletes, it's more difficult for CMR to get them to come here. For now.
 
National Championships:
UT - 6
Miami - 5

All time FBS wins:
UT - 815 (9th all time)
Miami - 603 (45th all time)

Bowl wins:
UT - 26
Miami - 18

Bowl appearances:
UT - 50
Miami- 36

Conference titles:
UT - 16 (In the much harder SEC/Southern)
Miami - 9

Consensus All Americans
UT - 38
Miami - 35

UT-Miami series record
UT - 2
Miami - 1

Heisman winners:
UT - 0
Miami - 2 (Hey at least you can beat us in something!)

Can't wait for Byrd to commit to Tennessee!
 
National Championships:
UT - 6
Miami - 5

All time FBS wins:
UT - 815 (9th all time)
Miami - 603 (45th all time)

Bowl wins:
UT - 26
Miami - 18

Bowl appearances:
UT - 50
Miami- 36

Conference titles:
UT - 16 (In the much harder SEC/Southern)
Miami - 9

Consensus All Americans
UT - 38
Miami - 35

UT-Miami series record
UT - 2
Miami - 1

Heisman winners:
UT - 0
Miami - 2 (Hey at least you can beat us in something!)

Can't wait for Byrd to commit to Tennessee!

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National Championships:
UT - 6
Miami - 5

All time FBS wins:
UT - 815 (9th all time)
Miami - 603 (45th all time)

Bowl wins:
UT - 26
Miami - 18

Bowl appearances:
UT - 50
Miami- 36

Conference titles:
UT - 16 (In the much harder SEC/Southern)
Miami - 9

Consensus All Americans
UT - 38
Miami - 35

UT-Miami series record
UT - 2
Miami - 1

Heisman winners:
UT - 0
Miami - 2 (Hey at least you can beat us in something!)

Can't wait for Byrd to commit to Tennessee!

Right , lol.

Other than 98 when was the last title you guys won ? 50-60's ?

Leather helmets and only white were playing back then.

How about y'all beat Florida , that alone will probably have your fan base feeling like national champs .
 
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