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BREAKING: Jason Blissett Commits To Miami

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Lance Roffers said:
But how are you deciding who the best players are? Are you deciding by stars?

Did you know: Only 41.4% (111 of 268) of the All-Conference players from 2017 for Power-5 schools were ESPN300 kids?

SEC: 62 of 101 players (61.4%) This includes 2016 All-Conference
ACC: 17 of 49 players (34.7%)
Pac-12: 13 of 38 players (34.2%)
Big-10: 12 of 45 players (26.7%)
Big-12: 5 of 27 players (18.5%)

If recruiting rankings can't even get 50% of the All-Conference kids, is that how we are evaluating? There were more 3-star kids from ESPN that were All-Conference than players from their 300.
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And what percentage of power 5 scholarships (on average) per year does the espn 300 make up? Are you sure you want to make the case against a group that out performs its representation in the total group (assuming average of 25 scholarships per team per year average) by double?
 
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As long as we are beating Rutgers,syracuse,and wake forest for players we will never be back. He committed to the best offer he had. Do you honestly think if he had offers from Ohio state, psu, michigan he would be coming here? ......
 
Lance Roffers said:
But how are you deciding who the best players are? Are you deciding by stars?

Did you know: Only 41.4% (111 of 268) of the All-Conference players from 2017 for Power-5 schools were ESPN300 kids?

SEC: 62 of 101 players (61.4%) This includes 2016 All-Conference
ACC: 17 of 49 players (34.7%)
Pac-12: 13 of 38 players (34.2%)
Big-10: 12 of 45 players (26.7%)
Big-12: 5 of 27 players (18.5%)

If recruiting rankings can't even get 50% of the All-Conference kids, is that how we are evaluating? There were more 3-star kids from ESPN that were All-Conference than players from their 300.
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Excellent post. Goes back to my point about good/great coaches are gonna get good/great players regardless of what whatever recruit rankin says a player is. That's what you want. You need a coach who can evaluate talent like butch Davis.
 
BoxingRobes said:
Once again, I wouldn't want to compare ourselves to what Wake Forest, Utah, and Kentucky recruit. How many three stars from Bama, Ohio State, and Clemson made those All-American teams? What is LSUs DL comprised of?

Listen, three star players can and often are, good players. But, trends show that elite teams don't take a ton of them. I'm even willing to let the process play itself out. Maybe Holley or Blissett play themselves into the four star range. I don't know, but I'm uncomfortable hyping up a class of three star players. We've had a bad habit of doing that, and look where we are at now.
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I didn't hype a single thing. I presented you with factual data of which I have done the research into and have the database. I also showed that the ESPN300- which is a lot of players- couldn't even get 50% of the All-Conference players in the Power-5 conferences.

This isn't even baking into the results the bias that the lists have in regards to SEC schools and the Ohio State's of the world. ESPN has a vested interest in the SEC, so those schools naturally get bias towards their players on these lists.
Hurricane Warrior said:
I wouldn't put too much weight into this stat.

Few observations:
1. pretty sure SEC has the most ESPN300 kids... hence the 61.4%. They also have a bunch of ESPN300 kids that are backups.
2. other conferences don't have that many ESPN300 kids to begin with hence the lower %
3. 111 out 300 each year is not a bad hit rate at all...
4. there are a lot more kids not in the ESPN300 that go to P5 school every year.. ACC (14), Big10 (14), Big12 (10), PAC12 (12), SEC (14)
-there are 64 schools in P5, if each school signs 21 players per year that is a total of 1344 kids. The top 300 only accounts for 22% of that. Also there are probably at least 30-50 kids each year in the ESPN300 that don't make it to the school due to academics/legal etc. and another handful that end up not going to a P5 school for whatever reason... injuries also play a big part in why many of these kids never reaching their full potential. that leaves you with less than 18% of total kids signed each year.

Based on the above, I would say that 41% of All-Conference players are in the ESPN300 is not a bad ratio at all. Put it another way, if you are in the ESPN300 you have almost a 10% chance of making All-Conference each year but if you are not then you have less than 3% chance of making the All-Conference team. Another way to look it would be 1 out of 3 ESPN300 recruits will make an All-Conference team in their career and 1 out 10 non ESPN300 player will make it in their career.
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This is bad analysis. I’ll just leave it at that.
 
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Fawk_U Haters said:
Prop you got to watch Blissett work out at Paradise. What's your take on him. Strength/weaknesses and how do you see him fitting in here?
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Good movement. Big frame and lower body. He'll get up to 290 andstill look the same way he does now. He had a step up in competition at paradise, but he fits what were currently doing with guys that get up the field. Dont think he will eat reps as a freshman but 2 years from now he should.
 
gogeta4 said:
Good movement. Big frame and lower body. He'll get up to 290 andstill look the same way he does now. He had a step up in competition at paradise, but he fits what were currently doing with guys that get up the field. Dont think he will eat reps as a freshman but 2 years from now he should.
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so he's a redshirt to develop his body and technique
 
nycane said:
so he's a redshirt to develop his body and technique
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Definately in my opinion. He has quickness and good hand technique. He isnt strong. Paradise one on ones went similar to this. He cold win reps on his get off..but if i guy gets hands on him he was stoned. I like the take. If your running an aggresive get up the field system..he fits the mold more so than a Daxon.
 
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Notthe80sanymore said:
As long as we are beating Rutgers,syracuse,and wake forest for players we will never be back. He committed to the best offer he had. Do you honestly think if he had offers from Ohio state, psu, michigan he would be coming here? ......
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Uh, we have gotten plenty of kids over the past few years OSU, PSU, and Michigan have wanted. 2/3 of of 2018 class had offers from elite schools. And we just beat Michigan for Solomon and Couch.

Go back to lurking
 
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nystateofmind said:
Great to see a fellow New Yorker joining the Canes!

I’ll have to ask him about his favorite pizza toppings.
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Oh boy. Another New Yorker in Miami. Never get enough of hearing how great NYC is. Strange that they never seem to move back.

I’ve been to NYC many times and never once thought of staying. Has some nice eating places but now that we have constant traffic in ever direction and millions of aliens too, that’s about it.
 
Gatorhater said:
Oh boy. Another New Yorker in Miami. Never get enough of hearing how great NYC is. Strange that they never seem to move back.

I’ve been to NYC many times and never once thought of staying. Has some nice eating places but now that we have constant traffic in ever direction and millions of aliens too, that’s about it.
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I still reside in New York City, friend.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
All of that is fine...but I (as a fan) am over the "smartest guy in the room" routine. How about you just go get the best players? We haven't so far.

I don't mind any of our current takes...Munoz, Holley, or this kid...****, I've said before I liked Daxon and thought he was a take, too.

The problem is, I do mind taking an entire class of these three-star eye test evaluations. Ain't catching up with the standards of college football (Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State) with this kind of class, regardless of what I think of them individually. I can clearly see the upside here, but you don't take all three, unless you have to...and its looking like we have to, to fill the class...which, isn't great for us.
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Yeah, like the great '89 DL was all five stars...as was the 2001 DL.
 
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