Auburn is ranked 90th in total defense. We are 77th. SIAD

So we should fire Coley because he can't make up for Dorito's and his defense's shortcomings?

The offense was 87th nationally on converting 3rd down.

The defense was 81st nationally in allowing 3rd conversions.

When you consider what Coley had to work with he deserves just as much blame.

Also, 2nd half Duke possessions...

TD
Field Goal
Punt
Punt
TO on downs
TO on downs

1-7 3rd conversions
0-2 4th down conversions

But if you really want to blame someone blame Golden for hiring two dips **** coordinators.

Coley = 1 year, first time calling plays and lost the best player while the QB was broke for a good part. If he sucks as bad in year 2 then I say get the pitch forks.

Dorito = 3 years and we got worse.

All fair.

But my point really is that Coley wasn't qualified to begin with. Let him cut his teeth at FIU not UM.
 
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Auburn Opponent Overall Offensive Rankings
Washington State - 53
Arkansas State - 64
Mississippi State - 48
LSU - 26
Ole Miss - 21
Texas A&M - 4
FAU - 84
Arkansas - 99
Tennessee - 101
Georgia - 17
Alabama - 36
Missouri - 16

Average Ranking of 47

Miami
FAU - 84
Florida - 113
USF - 121
Georgia Tech - 40
North Carolina - 44
Wake - 118
FSU - 6
Vtech - 98
Duke - 68
Virginia - 92
Pitt - 102

Average ranking 80.

Not apples to apples.
 
My CPA mentor once told me "Any man that takes stats at their face values will be quick to lose his investment. Investigate the source of the numbers and figures and there lies the truth. "
 
So we should fire Coley because he can't make up for Dorito's and his defense's shortcomings?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The offense needs to score points

The defense needs to stop points from being scored

Both are responsible (to different degrees), both have room to improve


We were 24th in scoring offense. scoring ~35 ppg should be enough to win games against Duke and VT.

VT is 95th in scoring O, putting up 23 ppg. If our defense would have just been able to hold them to their average, we would have won the game 24-23.

Duke is 49th in scoring O, putting up 31 ppg. If our defense would have been able to hold them to their average, we would have been in a dog fight with a good chance to win at the end instead of a blowout loss.
 
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So we should fire Coley because he can't make up for Dorito's and his defense's shortcomings?

The offense was 87th nationally on converting 3rd down.

The defense was 81st nationally in allowing 3rd conversions.

When you consider what Coley had to work with he deserves just as much blame.

Also, 2nd half Duke possessions...

TD
Field Goal
Punt
Punt
TO on downs
TO on downs

1-7 3rd conversions
0-2 4th down conversions

But if you really want to blame someone blame Golden for hiring two dips **** coordinators.

Coley = 1 year, first time calling plays and lost the best player while the QB was broke for a good part. If he sucks as bad in year 2 then I say get the pitch forks.

Dorito = 3 years and we got worse.

All fair.

But my point really is that Coley wasn't qualified to begin with. Let him cut his teeth at FIU not UM.

Debatable in my opinion. It's not like he came from SMU or LA Tech. The team he coached last year is playing for the MNC.

I don't think he did a bad job considering he had Dallas Crawford, who in my opinion is not a good back, and a hurt Morris, who panicked at the first sign of pressure and has never shown up in any big game as his QB.

IMO we left another 5-6 point per game in the field because of the QB, lost of Duke/Dorsett, dropped passes and a defense who couldn't stop anyone, ensuring we lost the TOP battle game in and game out. We easily could have been top 20 scoring.
 
So we should fire Coley because he can't make up for Dorito's and his defense's shortcomings?

The offense was 87th nationally on converting 3rd down.

The defense was 81st nationally in allowing 3rd conversions.

When you consider what Coley had to work with he deserves just as much blame.

Also, 2nd half Duke possessions...

TD
Field Goal
Punt
Punt
TO on downs
TO on downs

1-7 3rd conversions
0-2 4th down conversions

But if you really want to blame someone blame Golden for hiring two dips **** coordinators.

Coley = 1 year, first time calling plays and lost the best player while the QB was broke for a good part. If he sucks as bad in year 2 then I say get the pitch forks.

Dorito = 3 years and we got worse.

All fair.

But my point really is that Coley wasn't qualified to begin with. Let him cut his teeth at FIU not UM.

Debatable in my opinion. It's not like he came from SMU or LA Tech. The team he coached last year is playing for the MNC.

I don't think he did a bad job considering he had Dallas Crawford, who in my opinion is not a good back, and a hurt Morris, who panicked at the first sign of pressure and has never shown up in any big game as his QB.

IMO we left another 5-6 point per game in the field because of the QB, lost of Duke/Dorsett, dropped passes and a defense who couldn't stop anyone, ensuring we lost the TOP battle game in and game out. We easily could have been top 20 scoring.



We were already #24 in scoring, with 36 ppg. Another 6 points on top of that puts us at #8 in scoring.

Whatever the case, the O was not the problem.
 
If we were 11-1 in Golden's first year going to the NC after beating two top five teams in a row, something tells me that people might be able to live with the ****** D for a year.

Instead we went 6-6 with a team full of NFLers.
 
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the only rankings we should compare with Auburn are recruiting classes from 09-12 and NFL draft picks in the same time period..thatll tell you your story
 
If we were 11-1 in Golden's first year going to the NC after beating two top five teams in a row, something tells me that people might be able to live with the ****** D for a year.

Instead we went 6-6 with a team full of NFLers.

Lulz....all pro bowlers.....but the D with the same scheme in 2011 was the same....and the D was much better...jacory yucking it up at the wrong times killed us we could not score on **** teams that year as well.....
 
If we were 11-1 in Golden's first year going to the NC after beating two top five teams in a row, something tells me that people might be able to live with the ****** D for a year.

Instead we went 6-6 with a team full of NFLers.

Define NFLers? Lamar Miller is ok. Vernon didn't play. Mike James and Brandon McGee are 2nd/3rd stringers and didn't exactly light this place up. Enough with the "roster full of NFLers" If a hand full of mediocre guys and about 10 guys that were invited to NFL rosters but now play in Canada or run the car wash by my house constitutes as NFLers then every college team has a "roster full of NFLers".
 
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the only rankings we should compare with Auburn are recruiting classes from 09-12 and NFL draft picks in the same time period..thatll tell you your story

If we had the talent Auburn has right now we probably would be 11-1.
 
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Dumb comparison for a dumb *** thread.

The factors aren't similar at all.

Our defense is horrible going on three years now. People looking for excuses is mindboggling. The writings on the wall.
 
the only rankings we should compare with Auburn are recruiting classes from 09-12 and NFL draft picks in the same time period..thatll tell you your story

If we had the talent Auburn has right now we probably would be 11-1.

Not if we were running the offense that we are currently running. We'd be sitting here bytching about Nick Marshall not being a D-1 QB and asking why didn't the staff burn Olsen's shirt.
 
What would Auburns ranking be if it wasnt for that defensive debacle against Mizzou? I mean that performance was awful even by our standards, they gave up nearly 700 yes, 550 of those on the ground......
 
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What would Auburns ranking be if it wasnt for that defensive debacle against Mizzou? I mean that performance was awful even by our standards, they gave up nearly 700 yes, 550 of those on the ground......

What does Auburn's offensive stats against Mizzou have to do with Auburn's defense. Re-read your post.
 
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