Article: the-ncaa-is-even-more-evil-than-you-think

[Ned_Zawalski]

It's a contract that student athletes sign with the NCAA. Member institutions and prospective student athletes freely enter that contract. You must not believe in contracts.

If member institutions, coaches, student athletes don't appreciate the rules the NCAA has.......they are free to do whatever they choose. Start a minor league, work out on your own, do whatever you like.

And here's the thing. If we disband the NCAA tomorrow, there will still have to be some rule-making authoritative body. And it is 100% guaranteed that the new governing body will make it illegal to drop off a sack of cash to a high school coach to pay for SAT courses for a recruit.

 

[SFbayCane]

Lame, lame article and a terrible effort to point to the NCAA as the bad guy. When this writer can show me that Lupoi was also helping non-football-playing students get into college, then I'll have a little bit of sympathy.

I dont agree with other posters calling you a moron, but I will say this is a very moronic post. You have no knowledge whereof you speak in this area.

For your statement to be true, every entity out there that exists to help non-athlete kids must show they've also helped an equal number of athlete kids or they too are in the wrong. Oh wait, tell me again why this is wrong to begin with?? Oh yeah, because the NCAA forbids young athletes from getting assistance if they cant afford it.

You see, the NCAA and their member institutions are totally okay with a kid who's on a music scholarship making extra money gigging in a band or teaching music lessons to middle schoolers at a local music for side cash. They're also totally okay with kids on academic scholarship earning extra money from the university as a TA, or making side money tutoring kids but god forbid an athlete be allowed to make money off their athletic talents, for THAT is worthy of them losing their amateur status (even though the dream team played in the olympics in 1992). They're not allowed to teach at clinics for side money. They're not allowed to profit from their own name. ****, Johnny Manzel got investigated FOR SIGNING HIS OWN **** NAME. Im sure he owned that name before he went to college.

Again, the NCAA is a communist organization that extorts young athletes and keep ALL of the profits while subjugating every aspect of their lives. This article simply illustrates how far they're willing to go to maintain their communistic grip over these young men and women.

But you're mixing up the issues here. I agree wholeheartedly that it wasn't fair that I was able to get a job while at UM but the football players living in Pearson right down the hall from me couldn't. But that's not the issue.

This situation involves a school singling out a prospective athlete and using its unlimited funds to get that kid eligible to play football for them. If you think that the school did that because they were concerned about the kid's welfare, then we can stop now, because we will never agree on this. That's why I made that post. Is the University of Washington paying for SAT courses for other high school kids who can't afford it by dropping off sacks of cash with the kids' guidance counselors? If not, then this was entirely a recruiting tactic. And it is clearly illegal, as it should be.

A private school in my area had a "minority achievement program" in which local kids who could never afford the school were given an opportunity to go for free. Very noble cause. Problem was, all of the recipients just happened to run 4.5 40's, if you catch my drift. The FHSAA **** near shut down the whole program because of it. That's what we're dealing with in this case. UW isn't some innocent party trying to help underpriviliged kids, they used cash to gain an advantage on the football field.

I see it as a university's athletic department helping save the life of another potentially lost kid. Are they doing it for their own benefit?? Is anything ever done for any other reason? Skools should be allowed to pay for tutoring and anything else to help kids who are disadvantaged. AT least that's where I come down on this issue.

 

[SFbayCane]

Lame, lame article and a terrible effort to point to the NCAA as the bad guy. When this writer can show me that Lupoi was also helping non-football-playing students get into college, then I'll have a little bit of sympathy.

I dont agree with other posters calling you a moron, but I will say this is a very moronic post. You have no knowledge whereof you speak in this area.

For your statement to be true, every entity out there that exists to help non-athlete kids must show they've also helped an equal number of athlete kids or they too are in the wrong. Oh wait, tell me again why this is wrong to begin with?? Oh yeah, because the NCAA forbids young athletes from getting assistance if they cant afford it.

You see, the NCAA and their member institutions are totally okay with a kid who's on a music scholarship making extra money gigging in a band or teaching music lessons to middle schoolers at a local music for side cash. They're also totally okay with kids on academic scholarship earning extra money from the university as a TA, or making side money tutoring kids but god forbid an athlete be allowed to make money off their athletic talents, for THAT is worthy of them losing their amateur status (even though the dream team played in the olympics in 1992). They're not allowed to teach at clinics for side money. They're not allowed to profit from their own name. ****, Johnny Manzel got investigated FOR SIGNING HIS OWN **** NAME. Im sure he owned that name before he went to college.

Again, the NCAA is a communist organization that extorts young athletes and keep ALL of the profits while subjugating every aspect of their lives. This article simply illustrates how far they're willing to go to maintain their communistic grip over these young men and women.

It's a contract that student athletes sign with the NCAA. Member institutions and prospective student athletes freely enter that contract. You must not believe in contracts.

If member institutions, coaches, student athletes don't appreciate the rules the NCAA has.......they are free to do whatever they choose. Start a minor league, work out on your own, do whatever you like.

This is you hiding behind the law.

Im not talking legality. Im talking morality. Why are the rules different between scholarship athletes and musicians? Athletes and academic scholarships?? Because athletes bring in big dollars and the NCAA and their member institutions want total control of those monies. I find it fascinating that you're so against this concept when its our own government doing it to us but when its the NCAA doing it to someone else's kids, you're coo-widit.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

I see it as a university's athletic department helping save the life of another potentially lost kid. Are they doing it for their own benefit?? Is anything ever done for any other reason? Skools should be allowed to pay for tutoring and anything else to help kids who are disadvantaged. AT least that's where I come down on this issue.

You don't really believe that. I don't mind that you want to be 1000% against the NCAA, but let's not pretend that this situation is "saving a kid". The kid doesn't have to go to the University of Washington. He could get in to dozens of junior colleges, play college football, and get a start on his education. Then head to UW after two years of free tutoring and attention.

Where does it end? What else do you want Alabama to be allowed to pay for to steal a recruit from us?

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Lame, lame article and a terrible effort to point to the NCAA as the bad guy. When this writer can show me that Lupoi was also helping non-football-playing students get into college, then I'll have a little bit of sympathy.

I dont agree with other posters calling you a moron, but I will say this is a very moronic post. You have no knowledge whereof you speak in this area.

For your statement to be true, every entity out there that exists to help non-athlete kids must show they've also helped an equal number of athlete kids or they too are in the wrong. Oh wait, tell me again why this is wrong to begin with?? Oh yeah, because the NCAA forbids young athletes from getting assistance if they cant afford it.

You see, the NCAA and their member institutions are totally okay with a kid who's on a music scholarship making extra money gigging in a band or teaching music lessons to middle schoolers at a local music for side cash. They're also totally okay with kids on academic scholarship earning extra money from the university as a TA, or making side money tutoring kids but god forbid an athlete be allowed to make money off their athletic talents, for THAT is worthy of them losing their amateur status (even though the dream team played in the olympics in 1992). They're not allowed to teach at clinics for side money. They're not allowed to profit from their own name. ****, Johnny Manzel got investigated FOR SIGNING HIS OWN **** NAME. Im sure he owned that name before he went to college.

Again, the NCAA is a communist organization that extorts young athletes and keep ALL of the profits while subjugating every aspect of their lives. This article simply illustrates how far they're willing to go to maintain their communistic grip over these young men and women.

It's a contract that student athletes sign with the NCAA. Member institutions and prospective student athletes freely enter that contract. You must not believe in contracts.

If member institutions, coaches, student athletes don't appreciate the rules the NCAA has.......they are free to do whatever they choose. Start a minor league, work out on your own, do whatever you like.

This is you hiding behind the law.

Im not talking legality. Im talking morality. Why are the rules different between scholarship athletes and musicians? Athletes and academic scholarships?? Because athletes bring in big dollars and the NCAA and their member institutions want total control of those monies. I find it fascinating that you're so against this concept when its our own government doing it to us but when its the NCAA doing it to someone else's kids, you're coo-widit.

I'm talking about the free market and contracts. Didn't know you were such a bleeding heart liberal. You probably think those evil corporations shouldn't be able to offer unpaid internships to college grads because they are exploiting those poor lads. Government should step in and protect them.