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If you’re outbid for 6 elite DTs when do reappropriate dollars to a position so you don’t have an absolute problem in one of the most important position groups?
Seems like everything pointing towards FSU being the place if Smith does flip.Big loss.
But there's plenty of time to replace him since I'm assuming he wouldn't have contributed much until the 2025 season.
Smith to FSU would be a disaster though. Would be on the same level as watching Dalvin Cook destroy us every year for 3 years.
Maybe I'm a glass half full type of fella.So yes in theory, this is true. In a perfect world, you land 2-high caliber DT's that provide instant-impact in the way we've seen Bear Alexander do it at USC (despite the rest of the defense turtle-shelling), FSU's acquisitions, etc.
****, throw in DB's while we're at it, a top tier QB, a safety, (yeah, now you're starting to understand why I'm growing concerned with this recruiting class, because we have A LOT of holes to fix if we want to be a 9+ win program in 2024). But you have to understand the very reasonable reservations I (and many others) have about the ability to land those guys. They are coveted by literally every major program in America.
1. If Mario Cristobal, who's forte is high school recruiting - can't land high school DT's, where is the confidence coming from that you think snagging a top 3 DT in the portal is remotely probable? You're going to have to fight off schools like Bama, UGA, LSU, Ohio St, Texas, A&M, FSU, UF, etc...
2. On top of that, we're getting out-bid by UF and FSU for recruits...you think we're going to out-bid some of these national programs for recruits that highly sought-after???
Yeah...let's just say I'm skeptical about that...we're not recruiting well enough at the position, AND we're not shelling out top dollar...math doesn't add up. We REALLY need Burroughs to be a dude, because we lucked out with that pickup.
Take a deep breath. Recruiting is fluid. What is today's "reality" won't be the reality in December. Seen it happen too many times already.Seems like everything pointing towards FSU being the place if Smith does flip.
I get it just following the bread crumbs. I know our insiders have said 1 thing which they get their info from the staff can't be mad at it. I've just seen that he's visited FSU a lot said the right things stayed for their whole game. Last year we got destroyed by FSU but Innis was supposedly one of the last people to leave. Not saying he's going to FSU but at this point I probably would feel better if he just stayed committed to OSU. Recruiting is fluid though like you said hopefully we beat them in a few weeks.Take a deep breath. Recruiting is fluid. What is today's "reality" won't be the reality in December. Seen it happen too many times already.
We dont sign the right guys. This is null and void.While losing Blount is a HUGE loss, I will try to look at the flip side of the coin here. Recruiting is no longer just limited to high school anymore. The portal has been equally or in some cases (FSU) more important than high school recruiting. Hitting on the right guys in the transfer portal means that you get college ready athletes who are ready to contribute immediately rather than having to go through a S&C regimen first to see the field. Can't minimize the loss of an elite high school prospect, but there might be a fixable solution lurking in the portal.
I guess I'm going more glass half empty here lol. I won't directly refute anything that you said, but to counter...Maybe I'm a glass half full type of fella.
QB - call me silly, but I see real potential in Emory. He is not winning a Heisman, but he can be a very good QB for us in Dawson's system. Real upside there.
DB - again, glass half full - we are right in the thick of things with Ellis Robinson. Day 1 starter if we can close that deal.
S - Trust the guys we have on the roster. Another year under the same D Coordinator can only help. If KK and JW come back for another year, its a bonus.
Correct, and it wasn't too long ago that the narrative regarding FSU was that they were a joke and didn't have the requisite money or resources to be a national player in this new era of NIL and the portal. Then they went 10-3 in Norvell's third year in 2022 and here we are in 2023 with FSU at 7-0 flipping Blount etc.....Remember Norvell went 3-6 his first year and 5-7 his second. It shows how short-term the preception of a team lasts these days.
Yes of course because some fans wishing for FSU to be undefeated is what allowed them to be undefeated. Great porst!Need more of our fans to stop wishing for FSU to be undefeated every year until we play them.
This is what happens. Would the flip have happened if FSU was WINLESS?
That’s what we should be rooting for when it comes to FSU.
Wish for dumb things, lose big prizes.
Narratives don’t match huh?How can we get outbid with all the misses?
At this point there should be so much money they should be using the money to light cigars just to have something to do with it since it didn’t go to anybody.
Doesn’t make sense to me if we have money. Someone is capping.If you’re outbid for 6 elite DTs when do reappropriate dollars to a position so you don’t have an absolute problem in one of the most important position groups?
Cribby said we were outbid and it wasn't particularly close.Narratives don’t match huh?
When we lose someone or anyone else it’s money. But if we get someone it’s not money it’s he loves the U. Then the other fan base said Miami offers more. It’s the same excuse on every forum
Supposedly we have all this DT money from whiffs. So that money talk saved up by whiffs is cap. Put two and two together and you know we just got beat.
I think you might want to consider that we do have all that money but we have a limit as to how much we will spend on any given player. Kind of like the Pittsburgh Steelers or New England Patriots approach to contracts and roster management.Doesn’t make sense to me if we have money. Someone is capping.
I will say we just got stuffed in the locker straight up like no cap.
How can we get outbid with all the misses?
At this point there should be so much money they should be using the money to light cigars just to have something to do with it since it didn’t go to anybody.
Then let’s see how much they got let’s up it. Mario came here with financial backing. Either that or we poor or we don’t value a price that high. I know Bain worth an nfl contract right nowCribby said we were outbid and it wasn't particularly close.
If we are operating like that we won’t be good. You can do that at Pitt and NE cause those guys are being paid millions already. They have to wait till free agency so u get something out of them. These pups ain’t never seen money like that you have to go all out or fall behind.I think you might want to consider that we do have all that money but we have a limit as to how much we will spend on any given player. Kind of like the Pittsburgh Steelers or New England Patriots approach to contracts and roster management.
Either way, whatever it is, is not working. If this is their "business model", it isn't sustainable.