Armella wins OL MVP at Rivals Miami, discusses UM recruitment

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Its early. ALOT can happen with kids like this over the next 7-8 months. Since hes at STA he wont be an EE so this kid could even drag this out until Feb 2022 if he wants. You do a "Heat Check" with this kid around October when we are 8-0/7-1. Then lets see how he feels.

And I agree that he eventually uses an OV on us at the end of it all.
 
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We're n his top 7. No reason to get excited and no reason to lose sleep. When he pares his list down to 2 or 3 and we're still involved then its time to get anxious. Top 7's are usually a recruits starting point
None of us should lose sleep over any of these kids' decisions. He won't OV to Miami and is a FSU legacy. He was seen as a FSU lock two years ago. The move-in with mom and transfer to Columbus gave Miami a puncher's chance. Miami had the mom on their side due to potential proximity to home.

Unless the dad and son remained out of contact until NSD, this was always a long shot. The move back to STA, no OV to Miami, and the dad/son reestablishing their relationship (a good thing for them! but the dad was the one who blocked the transfer to Gulliver from STA) all show me he will leave south Florida for college.

What is mildly surprising to me is the exclusion of Oregon from the list.
 
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None of us should lose sleep over any of these kids' decisions. He won't OV to Miami and is a FSU legacy. He was seen as a FSU lock two years ago. The move-in with mom and transfer to Columbus gave Miami a puncher's chance. Miami had the mom on their side due to potential proximity to home.

Unless the dad and son remained out of contact until NSD, this was always a long shot. The move back to STA, no OV to Miami, and the dad/son reestablishing their relationship (a good thing for them! but the dad was the one who blocked the transfer to Gulliver from STA) all show me he will leave south Florida for college.

What is mildly surprising to me is the exclusion of Oregon from the list.
Folks are reading the tea leaves pretty hard.

Maybe he’s open minded. Why not be? FSU is a **** show. Miami is local and on upswing probably. Maybe he goes SEC. The idea not taking an OV means no Miami is an overreaction.
 
I will be curious at the end of this recruiting cycle how many of these "Miami is close by so I can always visit on my own and I'd rather use the official visit on further schools" kids we actually end up with in the class.

The anomaly of the 2021 class aside, not taking an official is usually a bad sign. On the other hand, by June 1 these 2022 kids will have been in a recruiting dead period for about 15-16 months straight and are probably itching to get out and get recruited.
 
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Folks are reading the tea leaves pretty hard.

Maybe he’s open minded. Why not be? FSU is a **** show. Miami is local and on upswing probably. Maybe he goes SEC. The idea not taking an OV means no Miami is an overreaction.
I think he is very open minded due his top 7 list and want to visit all of them before making a decision. His openmindness does not have me believing that a OT that OVs to LSU, FSU, + 3 out of Clemson/OSU/UF/Bama will chose Miami. He rejected the June 1st UOV invite too. I believe you would not reject both of those for a college you will want to attend. Choosing to travel rather than take the short drive for the day (wherever he is on June 1st will not be a OV with the info laid out in OP). To my knowledge, no highly recruited local kids that exhausted all their OVs, without Miami, chose Miami.
 
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These kids still really don't value a UM offer the way they should. Imagine telling Nick Saban "Coach I'm not taking an official to Alabama but keep recruiting me" He'd laugh in the kids face. Wish we took a tougher stance on some of these local guys once a for all.
Perhaps, but what have we done with OLinemen? In fact we have had two or three St. Thomas kids on OL and DL the past 5 years and none ever became a factor.

He gone ....
 
I think he is very open minded due his top 7 list and want to visit all of them before making a decision. His openmindness does not have me believing that a OT that OVs to LSU, FSU, + 3 out of Clemson/OSU/UF/Bama will chose Miami. He rejected the June 1st UOV invite too. I believe you would not reject both of those for a college you will want to attend. Choosing to travel rather than take the short drive for the day (wherever he is on June 1st will not be a OV with the info laid out in OP). To my knowledge, no highly recruited local kids that exhausted all their OVs, without Miami, chose Miami.
I don’t think this is true. Don’t recall though. Maybe others do.
 
These kids still really don't value a UM offer the way they should. Imagine telling Nick Saban "Coach I'm not taking an official to Alabama but keep recruiting me" He'd laugh in the kids face. Wish we took a tougher stance on some of these local guys once a for all.
I don't want kids that don't value an offer from UM. The whole, "I want to commit at the All-American game did it for me." It's his right to get his shine on wherever he wants, but I'm looking elsewhere. He's reaching for what he thinks are greener pastures
 
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These kids still really don't value a UM offer the way they should. Imagine telling Nick Saban "Coach I'm not taking an official to Alabama but keep recruiting me" He'd laugh in the kids face. Wish we took a tougher stance on some of these local guys once a for all.
this post fails the test of understanding the basic concept of leverage. you can't play hardball when you need the talent. we have to let the kid do what he feels like and hope to convince him in the end that miami is the best place for him. taking a "tougher stance" accomplishes nothing except pumping blood into the ****s of message board posters. in the real world, miami has to build relationships in a positive fashion and, i dunno, actually win something

the last time i can remember miami taking a "tough stance" on a local kid was pulling denver kirkland's offer which was a huge embarrassment and had no positive net effect on anything
 
He’s back at STA so gotta think if bama or taint want him he’s there’s. Sabag has a major in at Aquinas and taint has always gotten kids from there
 
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I will be curious at the end of this recruiting cycle how many of these "Miami is close by so I can always visit on my own and I'd rather use the official visit on further schools" kids we actually end up with in the class.
Good point. We should have a decent size data set on this by the end of the cycle, to help predict the 2023 class.
 
Just keep crootin.

Im not underestimating the staff. I mean James Williams posted a top three in June last cycle that did NOT include us and by late July he was the ambassador of the class.

Anything can happen.
 
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Just keep crootin.

Im not underestimating the staff. I mean James Williams posted a top three in June last cycle that did NOT include us and by late July he was the ambassador of the class.

Anything can happen.
James people were all Canes & James himself was a Canes fan though. He was just turned off by our ****** 2019 season
 
this post fails the test of understanding the basic concept of leverage. you can't play hardball when you need the talent. we have to let the kid do what he feels like and hope to convince him in the end that miami is the best place for him. taking a "tougher stance" accomplishes nothing except pumping blood into the ****s of message board posters. in the real world, miami has to build relationships in a positive fashion and, i dunno, actually win something

the last time i can remember miami taking a "tough stance" on a local kid was pulling denver kirkland's offer which was a huge embarrassment and had no positive net effect on anything
You're 100% right. I should've said I long for the day that we're able to toughen our stance.
 
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