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Apr 10 at Pittsburgh 3pm ACCNX

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chris2183l said:
Some pathetic baseball the last two innings. Bases loaded twice under 2 outs and get zip...also no clue why pitelli didn't go home on that. This team is not nearly good enough to make any noise in the postseason
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We needed 2 runs not 1. Pitella was not going as the ball was not hit deep enough to chance getting thrown out. Rivera would have been out either way as the ball was caught by the short stop. Terrible base running by Rivera.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
We needed 2 runs not 1. Pitella was not going as the ball was not hit deep enough to chance getting thrown out. Rivera would have been out either way as the ball was caught by the short stop. Terrible base running by Rivera.
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Bingo. Pitelli did the smart thing there. Even a 10% chance of getting thrown out in that situation is too much. IDK what Rivera was thinking.
 
puertorricane said:
Two runs or not it was deep enough for him to score.
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You don't understand the game. It was not deep enough to take a cjance on arun that means nothing. Pitelli was held up by the coaxh anyway. Rivera still has to score to tie the game. If Rivera scores, Pitelli scores in front of him.

Even if Pitelli goes and scores, Rivera is out dead to right because the ball was thrown perfectly to the short stop and Pitt would take the sure out over the run as the catcher and 3rd baseman would direct him to throw the ball to 2nd or 3rd because Rivera drifted of the bag.
 
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scane said:
Bingo. Pitelli did the smart thing there. Even a 10% chance of getting thrown out in that situation is too much. IDK what Rivera was thinking.
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He was probably held up by the coqch anyway. He was just bluffing to enduce a possible errant throw.
 
scane said:
Bingo. Pitelli did the smart thing there. Even a 10% chance of getting thrown out in that situation is too much. IDK what Rivera was thinking.
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The throw wasn't even close to home. He walks in and then u only need 1. Clearly they have no issues making other bone head mistakes on the bases...he has decent speed. No reason not to tag up and score there and who knows if the guy doesn't cut it off maybe it gets away and gabe gets to third or doesn't get thrown out at all...pitelli went back guy cuts it off and guns down Rivera
 
DieHardCane27 said:
Yeah in fairness unless they allow more people in the stands hosting won't really help us much I don't think. The obvious exception to that would be if it prevented us from having to go play Florida.
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It's not about hosting. It's about the teams you have to face in your bracket. I'd rather be on the road in a weaker region then wind up with Florida and Vanderbilt whixh it looks like it's going to be. Only difference is we may be going to Gainesville as a #2 seed which I'm fine with. We match up well with them.

Basically we're screwed either way because now more than ever the NCAA is goong to keep teams closer to home. We're not going to escape playong the top end of the SEC. You hope it would be in Omaha, but we won't be seeded low enough to avoid them.

Base case is to win a regional. This team doesn't hit well enough to compete with the top pitchers in the ACC or SEC. I have to call it as I see it.
 
chris2183l said:
The throw wasn't even close to home. He walks in and then u only need 1. Clearly they have no issues making other bone head mistakes on the bases...he has decent speed. No reason not to tag up and score there and who knows if the guy doesn't cut it off maybe it gets away and gabe gets to third or doesn't get thrown out at all...pitelli went back guy cuts it off and guns down Rivera
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That's not how the game is played. This ain't football or basketball. Rivera has to score to tie the game. So, Pitelli waks home if Rivera scores on any of the next batters putting the ball in play.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
That's not how the game is played. This ain't football or basketball. Rivera has to score to tie the game. So, Pitelli waks home if Rivera scores on any of the next batters putting the ball in play.
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Ok so if you can easily tag up and score you don't do it unless you're only down by 1..got it.....the throw was no where near the plate. He has decent speed and should have tagged and taken the run regardless. It was deep enough to score him. It wasn't toral on 3rd...I understand they were down two but look what happened. When you force the guy to decide whether to cut it off or let the ball go thru things can happen...it could get away or he could bobble it...he didn't go so the guy cut it and made the easy peg to 2nd
 
chris2183l said:
Ok so if you can easily tag up and score you don't do it unless you're only down by 1..got it.....the throw was no where near the plate. He has decent speed and should have tagged and taken the run regardless. It was deep enough to score him. It wasn't toral on 3rd...I understand they were down two but look what happened. When you force the guy to decide whether to cut it off or let the ball go thru things can happen...it could get away or he could bobble it...he didn't go so the guy cut it and made the easy peg to 2nd
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What's wrong with you? It wasn't a given that Pitelli would score. The ball was caught moving forward not backwards and that's the difference in whether you send him given where it was hit. Does Pitelli make it home safely? Probably yes, but it's a meaningless run even if he makes it 100 times out of a hundred.

The key is Rivera because if he scores, Pitelli scores so it didn't matter if they sent him or not. Rivera was going to be out a 3rd if Pitelli goes home because the ball was thrown to the cutoff man as any team would do.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
What's wrong with you? It wasn't a given that Pitelli would score. The ball was caught moving forward not backwards and that's the difference in whether you send him given where it was hit. Does Pitelli make it home safely? Probably yes, but it's a meaningless run even if he makes it 100 times out of a hundred.

The key is Rivera because if he scores, Pitelli scores so it didn't matter if they sent him or not. Rivera was going to be out a 3rd if Pitelli goes home because the ball was thrown to the cutoff man as any team would do.
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No argument here. You’re nailing it, I just would rather see us put the pressure on Pitt to make the play then not.
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
No argument here. You’re nailing it, I just would rather see us put the pressure on Pitt to make the play then not.
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The thing is Pitt wasn't going to make a mistake. That was why Pitelli was bluffing the throw to see if they would. Rivera was watching Pitelli instead of watching the play in front of him. Just another base running blunder
 
scane said:
Bingo. Pitelli did the smart thing there. Even a 10% chance of getting thrown out in that situation is too much. IDK what Rivera was thinking.
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Yup. Pitelli absolutely did the right thing. Not deep enough, plus the 3 and 4 hitters coming up. You give them a shot to drive you in. Rivera....smh...he’s not going even if Pitelli goes as they cut it and throw him out at 3rd. Unbelievable.
 
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They are just timid all around. They don't seem aggressive enough in big spots. I think if he was aggressive and made the break for home that the SS possible let's the ball travel thru and anything can happen at that point...thats all I'm saying. Sometimes when u force the defense to make a play mistakes happen and if the ball goes thru then Rivera most def doesn't get thrown out
 
The debate over whether or not we should try to score there has merit on both sides. But that's not the issue. The runner on second, even if he thinks we're trying to score, can't break for third unless the throw is uncuttable. It's a terrible, amateurish mistake. That leads us to the same two irrefutable truths:

1. Our players don't have baseball savvy.
2. Our coaches don't teach our players what to do in situations like that.
 
You want to know what a clown show this is? Look at how the 2nd inning ended in the first game of the season.

Exact. Same. Mistake.

PitcherBatter
MaceMorales, Y.Morales, Y. doubled to right center.
MaceToral, A.Toral, A. walked.
MaceGil, R.Gil, R. struck out swinging.
MaceDelCastilloCDelCastilloC singled through the right side, RBI; Toral, A. advanced to second; Morales, Y. scored.
MaceJenkins, T.DelCastilloC advanced to second on a passed ball; Toral, A. advanced to third on a passed ball.
MaceJenkins, T.Jenkins, T. flied out to rf; DelCastilloC out at third rf to 1b to 3b.
 
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