Any theories on timing by NCAA?

[SmokeyRone]

LOL @ Canes fans that actually believe the NCAA is conspiring against Miami in the release of the sanctions. This is a poorly run, bumbling beauracray combined with a huge case in which evidence spans a decade.

Here's a thought: the sanctions will be released once the COI is done with its findings and has agreed on penalties.

Uh, wasn't their whole investigation a case of conspiring against Miami, with unethical conduct, de facto illegalities, rascalism and misogeny? It wasn't just good intentioned bumbling, was it?

 

[SFbayCane]

Andrew: Caneinheelcountry is correct. Donna worked directly for President Bill Clinton and is very close friends with Hillary, who is currently the odds-on favorite to be the next president o/t United States. Her political connections are at the absolute highest level. Know that!



CaneinheelCountry: Please remember our golden rule on this site: "You may attack the post, not the poster." There is a world of difference between; "you're an idiot" and "that's an idiotic post." Thanks.

 

[DapperSlapper]

LOL @ Canes fans that actually believe the NCAA is conspiring against Miami in the release of the sanctions. This is a poorly run, bumbling beauracray combined with a huge case in which evidence spans a decade.

Here's a thought: the sanctions will be released once the COI is done with its findings and has agreed on penalties.

Uh, wasn't their whole investigation a case of conspiring against Miami, with unethical conduct, de facto illegalities, rascalism and misogeny? It wasn't just good intentioned bumbling, was it?

The COI played no part in the investigation, so whatever NCAA enforcement did or did not do shouldn't be attributed to the COI. canecountry3 is close, but the COI is definitely done with its findings and has agreed on penalties. The most time consuming part of their process is the drafting of the public infractions report. The COI must reach a consensus re: all contents in the report. This takes multiple drafts and multiple phone conferences.

 

[Hurricanesgolden2013]

This is a big case with alot of decisions to be made. An ex-con with reams of accusations, ex players who snitched, Ex players not cooperating (thank goodness, but may result in penaties) wins possibly being negated, scholarship decisions, post season bowl ban decision, Clint Hurtt, Aubrey Hill, PLUS the mens basketball team facing accusations and the future of Frank Haith in the balance etc......may take till the third game.

Agreed. Moreover, I think the NCAA may be trying to work thru possible counter-moves by the various parties (appeals, law suits, etc.).

Exactly. I think they're burning up the back channels trying to feel any and every reactive move by Shalala and Glazer. This is where Glazer is earning his ****ing money. I think they're negotiating without negotiating and trying to get a handle on what is gonna best serve the closure goal but by also not coming off weaker than they already do. I mean it's a lose lose situation for them at this point. They're trying to manage PR as much as anything.

The weird thing is that the University of Miami, the institution that everyone loves to hate and punish was turned into the good guy in this and has gotten a large support faction as a by product of their subversive actions. This is not something they counted on by any means. No one and I mean no one has ever been in our corner.

But now you've got Shalala with her large political presence and the media that has gone from vilifying us to crucifying the NCAA for their actions and this has put a dent in the public's support of a Miami beheading by Emmert and Co. They thought for sure that no one would slap their wrist for going after the evil Miami but they didn't expect this and now they've got to figure out how to gain some closure while still salvaging some face with perceived strength and doing it without further amplifying the support behind Miami even if it's misdirected.

That's alot of media outlets, university presidents, large national boosters, political figures, and lawyers to call and feel out.

Donna's connection to politics is overrated. Every University president has ties to politics. She is doing what any other president would do. The NCAA doesn't like us and they are trying to determine how hard they can punish us. Why would you think any different?

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

There are very few--if any--university presidents who have served in national politics to the degree at which Shalala has. Seriously. The majority of University presidents have never served on governmental committees or have been US cabinet members. The majority of University presidents have only a fraction of the political connections that Shalala has.

I can't believe that a mod on this board would be so **** dumb as to put forth such a statement.

Think about it: the fact that she is a major political player is the very reason why her statements have meant so much in regard to this investigation. No other university president--Not USC, not OSU, not PSU, not ND, not FSU, not UNC--has had their statement covered to such degree as Shalala's have been. And this is BEFORE any ruling has even been handed down.

If Donna's ties are so strong to the political side then why haven't we heard anything from the attorney general? They sent former players nasty letters and then she agreed to send them to them. So, if she has any political power so far its been nothing but talk. If she has this all high power like the Cane fans think..WE have not seen one bit of it. We have seen a lot of talk but no action...FACT you would seem to think that something should of happened by now to show her power. NOTTA!! JUST ALOT OF TALK .

 

[Hurricanesgolden2013]

All of this political power Cane fans say's she has, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO SHOW IT>>>>>HELLO ANYONE

 

[WhatTheHell]

They'll replace the Band of the Hour at halftime of the UF game, march to midfield, and announce the death penalty.

 

[Hurricanesgolden2013]

Cane fans tell me what she has done to show her power.....U cant

 

[Picksix]

All of this political power Cane fans say's she has, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO SHOW IT>>>>>HELLO ANYONE

Yeah the Secretary of Health and Human Services who served all 8 years under President Clinton who was also a Designated Survivor has no political connections. Dumb post is dumb as ****.

 

[Hurricanesgolden2013]

All of this political power Cane fans say's she has, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO SHOW IT>>>>>HELLO ANYONE

Yeah the Secretary of Health and Human Services who served all 8 years under President Clinton who was also a Designated Survivor has no political connections. Dumb post is dumb as ****.

I said what has she done to show her power on this case....ONCE AGAIN U SHOWED NOTTA

 

[umhurricano]

They wait until football games start so ESPN isn't talking about them all day. COWARDS

Exactly what I was thinking, that´s my fear as well. Maybe the sanctions are harsh and they don´t want to disclose them in the offseason and therefore we haven´t heard nada from them so far.

I read it the opposite way: the sanctions will not be harsh which is embarrassing to the NCAA after the big stir they caused. Waiting to release until football season lessens that embarrassment which would be fine by me, just want it done.

Also, for hurricanegoldenshowers, not calling in the attorney general doesn't mean she isn't working the process behind the scenes. Top political connections aren't a get out of jail free card unless your name is Roger Clinton. The big guns don't come out until the verdict is handed down.

 

[Tei Tenga]

Moments before the UF game.
ESPN will also have a special halftime exclusive interview with Emmert (who just so happens will be in town) live from a NCAA private yacht party in the bay.

 

[SFbayCane]

All of this political power Cane fans say's she has, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO SHOW IT>>>>>HELLO ANYONE

Taken the university of miami from being an academic joke to being a top 50 academic institution. Added hundreds of millions of dollars to the UM coffers.



I suggest you expand your horizons. Power doesnt need to be on display to exercised.

 

[DJWilliams55]

She wouldn't have openly blasted the NCAA publicly if she didn't have the juice behind the scenes. Nobody does that without holding cards. The NCAA is well aware that if Miami gets slammed there will be harassment and involvement from the Hill.

 

[Picksix]

All of this political power Cane fans say's she has, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO SHOW IT>>>>>HELLO ANYONE

Yeah the Secretary of Health and Human Services who served all 8 years under President Clinton who was also a Designated Survivor has no political connections. Dumb post is dumb as ****.

I said what has she done to show her power on this case....ONCE AGAIN U SHOWED NOTTA

She's done nothing and has no power whatsoever. You win... Not going to go back and forth with stupid.

 

[SmokeyRone]

All of this political power Cane fans say's she has, WHAT HAS SHE DONE TO SHOW IT>>>>>HELLO ANYONE

Oh, I assure you she will be outraged when we get hit with another bowl ban.

 

[Andrew]

I understand who she worked for but that doesnt mean she has the political connections to do something. My proof is that she couldnt make this investigation go any faster, it has dragged on. Which political figure has spoken out in support of us? How much money has she raised for her former political friends? University Presidents are connected people. Look at Penn St and everyone they have speaking out. If Donna had these connections she sure hasn't used them yet. I am not a Donna hater but have no reason to believe she has any more clout than any other big time University President.

Since someone wanted to know who is more connected I would say the University of California President who served with the current administration. Oh and they donated 1.6 million during the last election. UM isn't on the list.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

I would take 15 ships and 5 years probation right now just to end it all.

 

[DJWilliams55]

I would take 15 ships and 5 years probation right now just to end it all.

That's on the harsh side. That would be appealed. Somewhere around 9-12 would prolly be accepted.

 

[DiegoCane]

LOL @ Canes fans that actually believe the NCAA is conspiring against Miami in the release of the sanctions. This is a poorly run, bumbling beauracray combined with a huge case in which evidence spans a decade.

Here's a thought: the sanctions will be released once the COI is done with its findings and has agreed on penalties.

Yes, the NCAA has shown throughout this investigation that they have treated Miami fairly. No shady tactics what so ever.