Another eye-popping NFL stat

[DMoney]

Can we see a position breakdown? That is what will assist us in recruiting. What is Florida fertile for, and where does it lack? What states are producing at high quantities of the positions that Florida lacks? Recruit there when you can't get here.

That would be interesting.

I know that two of the top OTs in the draft are three stars from the "State of Miami" a.k.a. the "I-4 Corridor": Jawaan Taylor (Cocoa) and Yodney Cajuste (Miramar).

 

[hoover437]

We should not be surprised about this huge state and kids take very very serious

 

[Memnon]

Everyone knows Florida produces the most talent per year.

None of the four playoff teams were built with Florida guys, though. They all had 1-2 important players from SFL.

That, and the fact we don’t get the best FL guys is why we still need to recruit other areas heavily.

Clemson just took 7 players from Florida in their 2019 class & their best DB from the championship team was Coco Creeks own Trayvon Mullen.

The point is, FLA produces the best talent in nation & while of course we should recruit OOS (something I'm 100% on board with), there's become this prevailing narrative on here that FLA players are overrated & the only way we'll win is by recruiting Georgia lol.

The thing is, our fans have become extremely jaded with Florida players because we get rejected so often by them the natural response is to say we need to recruit elsewhere. But that's kinda *** backwards, if the top programs in the country are hunting FLA players every year it's foolish to believe we'll be able supplement our misses in state with high caliber players from OOS. We just have to make our program more appealing for kids to stay home rather than chase after bags.

The fact is we're MIAMI the majority of our recruiting classes will always come from FLA, should we try to land blue chip players from other states of course we should, but to completely abandon Florida is absolutely stupid & nothing but a myth in the minds of fans who hate FLA players lol

 

[Canefam]

DB's, RB's and WR's abound in Florida.

However, there are very few big men, TE's or QB's...

 

[Canefam]

That would be interesting.

I know that two of the top OTs in the draft are three stars from the "State of Miami" a.k.a. the "I-4 Corridor": Jawaan Taylor (Cocoa) and Yodney Cajuste (Miramar).

Cocoa is closer to UF, than Coral Gables. Cajuste was a 2 star in Rivals back in 2014., who obviously bloomed late. Bottom line, there are very few Outstanding OL coming out of SFLA year in year out...

 

[DTP]

Nothing new. Everyone knows Florida has the most football talent. Just not at every position.

 

[DTP]

Cocoa is closer to UF, than Coral Gables. Cajuste was a 2 star in Rivals back in 2014., who obviously bloomed late. Bottom line, there are very few Outstanding OL coming out of SFLA year in year out...

Technically Cocoa is south of the I-4 line that Howard built the "state of Miami" but I agree with the rest of your post.

 

[native]

Georgia has just as much talent per capita as Fl. Florida pop. 21 million GA. 10 million.

 

[Brains]

Clemson just took 7 players from Florida in their 2019 class & their best DB from the championship team was Coco Creeks own Trayvon Mullen.

The point is, FLA produces the best talent in nation & while of course we should recruit OOS (something I'm 100% on board with), there's become this prevailing narrative on here that FLA players are overrated & the only way we'll win is by recruiting Georgia lol.

The thing is, our fans have become extremely jaded with Florida players because we get rejected so often by them the natural response is to say we need to recruit elsewhere. But that's kinda *** backwards, if the top programs in the country are hunting FLA players every year it's foolish to believe we'll be able supplement our misses in state with high caliber players from OOS. We just have to make our program more appealing for kids to stay home rather than chase after bags.

The fact is we're MIAMI the majority of our recruiting classes will always come from FLA, should we try to land blue chip players from other states of course we should, but to completely abandon Florida is absolutely stupid & nothing but a myth in the minds of fans who hate FLA players lol

We need to get more of the Florida players. We aren't going to win anything serious without doing so.

 

[Canefam]

Technically Cocoa is south of the I-4 line that Howard built the "state of Miami" but I agree with the rest of your post.

I appreciate both you and Dmoney. Your posts provide a lot of credibility to this site, but Stop with the State of Miami non-sense. This is NOT the 1980's or 90's anymore... Anyone trying to implement that type of recruiting strategy should not be coaching at UM, maybe FAU or FIU...

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

The per capital numbers are interesting...

51 Florida combine invitees / 20,980,000 Floridians (2017) = .00000243 combine invitees per Floridian.
25 Georgia combine invitees / 10,430,000 Georgians (2017) = .00000239 combine invitees per Georgian.
31 Texas combine invitees / 28,300,000 Texans (2017) = .000001 combine invitees per Texan.
25 Californian combine invitees / 39,540,000 Californians (2017) = .00000063 combine invitees per Californian.

Florida and Georgia are pretty close when you factor in the population disparity of those states (with Florida slightly ahead). But the gap between Florida and Georgia and Texas and California is even more impressive when you consider the huge populations in the latter two states.

 

[DTP]

I appreciate both you and Dmoney. Your posts provide a lot of credibility to this site, but Stop with the State of Miami non-sense. This is NOT the 1980's or 90's anymore... Anyone trying to implement that type of recruiting strategy should not be coaching at UM, maybe FAU or FIU...

I wasn't saying the "state of Miami" line is an end all be all, I was just saying that Cocoa is well within our recruiting radius. I mean, if we're going to rule them out as gator country, we might as well give up on the metro Orlando and Tampa areas too. We should be able to consistently pull central Florida kids.

 

[DMoney]

The per capital numbers are interesting...

51 Florida combine invitees / 20,980,000 Floridians (2017) = .00000243 combine invitees per Floridian.
25 Georgia combine invitees / 10,430,000 Georgians (2017) = .00000239 combine invitees per Georgian.
31 Texas combine invitees / 28,300,000 Texans (2017) = .000001 combine invitees per Texan.
25 Californian combine invitees / 39,540,000 Californians (2017) = .00000063 combine invitees per Californian.

Florida and Georgia are pretty close when you factor in the population disparity of those states (with Florida slightly ahead). But the gap between Florida and Georgia and Texas and California is even more impressive when you consider the huge populations in the latter two states.

Here is another per capita rating of existing NFL players, with Florida first again and Georgia second.

But of course, volume is what really matters. That is where the difference between Florida and the rest of the country is so stark.

NFL Players Per State Per Capita - Southeast Is King

To determine the top football baby factories, cleveland.com tabulated state totals for where NFL players were born and then calculated a ranking -- based on a ratio of current players from each state to births in the early 1990s when a big share of today's players were born. The top five states a...

floridahsfootball.com

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Clemson just took 7 players from Florida in their 2019 class & their best DB from the championship team was Coco Creeks own Trayvon Mullen.

The point is, FLA produces the best talent in nation & while of course we should recruit OOS (something I'm 100% on board with), there's become this prevailing narrative on here that FLA players are overrated & the only way we'll win is by recruiting Georgia lol.

The thing is, our fans have become extremely jaded with Florida players because we get rejected so often by them the natural response is to say we need to recruit elsewhere. But that's kinda *** backwards, if the top programs in the country are hunting FLA players every year it's foolish to believe we'll be able supplement our misses in state with high caliber players from OOS. We just have to make our program more appealing for kids to stay home rather than chase after bags.

The fact is we're MIAMI the majority of our recruiting classes will always come from FLA, should we try to land blue chip players from other states of course we should, but to completely abandon Florida is absolutely stupid & nothing but a myth in the minds of fans who hate FLA players lol

Agreed. The solution isn't to stop recruiting Florida because there is too much talent in Florida. That's outrageous. Our staff just needs to do a better job recruiting Florida (especially the tri-county area). Instead of whining and complaining about the "diva" or "mercenary" mentality of Florida athletes (which is, in many instances, true), they need to learn who they are dealing with, figure out what makes these kids tick, and use that to recruit to our strengths as a program.

Take a roster that is mostly top-end Florida talent and supplement it with blue-chip or underrated talent from other states (especially Georgia, but also important are Texas, NJ, Louisiana, and southern California) and you have a winning formula.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Here is another per capita rating of existing NFL players, with Florida first again and Georgia second.

But of course, volume is what really matters. That is where the difference between Florida and the rest of the country is so stark.

NFL Players Per State Per Capita - Southeast Is King

To determine the top football baby factories, cleveland.com tabulated state totals for where NFL players were born and then calculated a ranking -- based on a ratio of current players from each state to births in the early 1990s when a big share of today's players were born. The top five states a...

floridahsfootball.com

Volume definitely matters because at the end of the day everyone needs to fill a roster.

But I like to look at per capita numbers and per square mile numbers to get a sense of how efficiently these kids can get recruited. It is somewhat less important now with internet/texting/cellular phones, but if a coach can fly into one airport (MIA) and land within 25 square miles of literally hundreds of p5-level high school football recruits, that's a very efficient recruiting trip.

 

[Brains]

Agreed. The solution isn't to stop recruiting Florida because there is too much talent in Florida. That's outrageous. Our staff just needs to do a better job recruiting Florida (especially the tri-county area). Instead of whining and complaining about the "diva" or "mercenary" mentality of Florida athletes (which is, in many instances, true), they need to learn who they are dealing with, figure out what makes these kids tick, and use that to recruit to our strengths as a program.

Take a roster that is mostly top-end Florida talent and supplement it with blue-chip or underrated talent from other states (especially Georgia, but also important are Texas, NJ, Louisiana, and southern California) and you have a winning formula.

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[SPAMM]

Whatever the answer to your question is, I am confident the proportion of 4/5 stars from their respective cycles is represented at a higher % of their group than the others.

I think the guy who counts legs on the board could probably deal with this

 

[Canefam]

I wasn't saying the "state of Miami" line is an end all be all, I was just saying that Cocoa is well within our recruiting radius. I mean, if we're going to rule them out as gator country, we might as well give up on the metro Orlando and Tampa areas too. We should be able to consistently pull central Florida kids.

What is interesting, is the fact, that Jawaan Taylor was actually committed to Miami and before he flipped to the Gaytors… Here is a interview after he got the UF Offer... "

The Cocoa product also says he talks with teammate and Florida commit Chauncey Gardner "all the time" about the possibility of playing together at the next level. Standing at 6-foot-4, 345 pounds, Taylor is attracted by the possibility of playing early. Given the well-documented youth and issues along Florida's offensive line, Taylor could very well have an opportunity to play as a freshman. "They told me I can come in and help right away. They're looking for a few more linemen to come in and help them out," Taylor added. While he maintains that his commitment status to the Canes is "pretty solid right now," Taylor says he's simply exploring his other options. Taylor said he wasn't really affected by the firing of former Miami head coach Al Golden but he's ready to see who his successor is."

 

[kendallcanes]

Is it that South Florida players are divas, or is it that there are bags out there, and some families are desperate? For some families $100k is not life changing, but for others it is. Flipping could be related to money.

 

[DMoney]

Is it that South Florida players are divas, or is it that there are bags out there, and some families are desperate? For some families $100k is not life changing, but for others it is.

The number one problem with South Florida is the competition. You are competing with the bag schools and they are motivated to buy.

The talent in the rest of the South is more spread out. Here, the battleground is smaller so it gets bloodier.