I think we saying the same thing.. If I see a recorded time from a junior player running a 10.8 Im projecting out with natural growth and practice he will lower that time by the time he is on campus.. he already got the talent.. Im not taking the word of no corch tho especially how them city boys get hyped up.. get on the track and line up.. Lol..But speed is speed because you have football players who have and had elite speed. Anthony Schwartz who went to Auburn had elite speed. For football my opinion of elite speed is 10.5. Simply because of the mass they usually have to carry to play.