Alin Edouard FWIW this kid is seriously underrated

[bransuperpower]

Edouard has a VERY high ceiling. He also is very raw and has a pretty low floor. He does have a lot of the potential strengths of Bridgewater. But, Bridgewater produced A LOT more at the HS level. Edouard is a talent, but he is not as good of a prospect coming out as TB because TB was less risky. Edouard is a great talent to take as a 2nd QB along with a guy like Kaaya who seems to me a more proven commodity. I really like how our QB class looks right now

dude TB went to miami northwestern of course the production level will be higher

Really? He went to MNW? Wow, didn't know that! Tell me more!


I like Eduoard. I was one of the first people to defend his lower production because he has great tools as a prospect. That doesn't mean the lower production is not something to keep account of and consider.

Guess what? A lot of QBs that don't go to MNW and that play with less talent, complete over 50% of their passes

but production doesnt translate to the college game. we see players increase production and decrease production thats a variable thats not fair to judge in a QB on the high school level

 

[gcane44]

Edouard has a VERY high ceiling. He also is very raw and has a pretty low floor. He does have a lot of the potential strengths of Bridgewater. But, Bridgewater produced A LOT more at the HS level. Edouard is a talent, but he is not as good of a prospect coming out as TB because TB was less risky. Edouard is a great talent to take as a 2nd QB along with a guy like Kaaya who seems to me a more proven commodity. I really like how our QB class looks right now

dude TB went to miami northwestern of course the production level will be higher

Really? He went to MNW? Wow, didn't know that! Tell me more!


I like Eduoard. I was one of the first people to defend his lower production because he has great tools as a prospect. That doesn't mean the lower production is not something to keep account of and consider.

Guess what? A lot of QBs that don't go to MNW and that play with less talent, complete over 50% of their passes

but production doesnt translate to the college game. we see players increase production and decrease production thats a variable thats not fair to judge in a QB on the high school level

Fair?

Every variable is fair to judge a HS QB prospect on. Especially a variable that indicates the success the QB has been able to have in doing what he is receiving a scholarship to do against HS competition. I fully believe that too much stock cannot be put into HS production for a QB. I don't want to just take the guy who threw for the most yards and call it a day. But, you can't say you don't like seeing that Kaaya completes over 70% of his passes. Then you watch his tape and see him going through progressions and it seems apparent that he is advanced in his mental game for the HS level. Does that mean Kaaya will complete 70% of his passes in college? I don't know, doubtful though. But, it does mean that there is basis to discuss the possibility that one of his strengths may be the mental part of the game, and that can provide hope in projecting him further in terms of getting over the hurdles of adjusting to the mental burden of the college game for a QB in a pro style system.

We are all recruiting junkies. And that entails getting to know as much as we can about each prospect and projecting how they may fit in at our program or what they may or may not be able to do at the next level. That means watching Edouard's highlight tape and being impressed. "****, this guy looks like RG3 out there". Then you do more research and find out that he threw for barely 800 yards on the year while completing less than 50% of his passes. That indicates that while he looked world-class in his highlight tape, there were a lot of other snaps which he was on the field and not looking like that. THat hints at inconsistency. You're telling me we shouldn't judge and dig further based on that? Regardless of his stats, not many can replicate his strengths. That is why he is getting offers from some great programs. But, that doesn't mean I gotta turn a blind eye to his potential weaknesses.

I agree we shouldn't make a totality of an assessment based on that one factor, but you're nuts if you think we should ignore any element of a prospect in analyzing them. I promise you our coaches aren't

 

[Boston_Cane]

He'd be the perfect type of talent to plug into the QB pipeline and develop for 3-4 years with an eye towards competing for the big job in 2016/17. That said, it takes sustained organizational success and a certain kind of personality to sign on for that willingly, and his coming of age in the S. Fla hype machine may not lend itself that way.

 

[jerzeycane]

Kid certainly has a LOT of talent, and probably some of the HIGHEST upside of ANY QB in the entire class this year nationwide. BUT... Ive never been a big fan of raw COLLEGE QBs with "lots of upside". I prefer smarter kids, who know how to manage an offense, make good decisions, and have decent talent, to guys who are Raw, with huge arms. We have always had better luck with the latter, than the former.

Ill be rooting for Edouard to develop into a top flight QB, but to me, the key to being a successful COLLEGE QB is more in your head, than in your arm. Thus Im overall much more excited about Kaaya at this point.

I won't put that on the kids. I'll put that squarely on the shoulders of the terrible staff's that we've had in place at times.

Meh, but it wasnt just one or two staffs. Remember Kenny Kelly? All the athleticism in the WORLD. And Ken Dorsey, who had no where NEAR the arm or athleticism KK had, ended up a much better QB for us. So it wasnt just Randy or Coker. This goes back a LONG way.

Kenny isn't a fair barometer

1) He never really got the experience necessary to be proficient at a pro-style

2) The offense wasn't necessarily tailored around his strengths (although there were roll outs and some things that got him on the move)

3) Dorsey just happened to be perfect for what we did, much like Walsh was and it happened immediately for those guys, because they were polished QB MINDS they day they stepped on campus

There have been a number of factors that wouldn't lend to a QB being able to grow within our system and then becoming the athletic QB that can make plays with his feet, while also being able to beat the defense with his arm/mind.

We have a staff in place and the depth that would allow a QB like Alin to grow into the offense and sharpen his own skills. I also think that there will be a lot more of our offense that will use Alin's skillset to accent the offense (That doesn't mean tailor it away from his limitations).

 

[1jamaicancane]

He has POTENTIAL to be really good if not great but he needs to be polished. I want him here but I want him to also have a better attitude

 

[cowboycane]

Literally the same can be said of Alin that can be said of any top football recruit. If he works hard and keeps after it he could be really good. If not he will stagnate. Period.

 

[The Franchise]

Only downside of pairing him up with Kaaya as a developmental QB is that Edwards appears to be a guy who will pack it in if Kaaya is ahead of him their freshman year. Not a fan at all of his approach. His approach is a selfish one, and that doesn't bode well with QBs.

 

[RickRollU]

Only downside of pairing him up with Kaaya as a developmental QB is that Edwards appears to be a guy who will pack it in if Kaaya is ahead of him their freshman year. Not a fan at all of his approach. His approach is a selfish one, and that doesn't bode well with QBs.

This! Edouard is all talk but when it's time to prove that he's here to compete, he chokes and take the easy camp with no QB.

Action speaks louder than words, Edouard is the perfect transfer candidat.

 

[USNAVYCANE]

I never thought Teddys tape looked that great

 

[Canesfan1899]

Only downside of pairing him up with Kaaya as a developmental QB is that Edwards appears to be a guy who will pack it in if Kaaya is ahead of him their freshman year. Not a fan at all of his approach. His approach is a selfish one, and that doesn't bode well with QBs.

This! Edouard is all talk but when it's time to prove that he's here to compete, he chokes and take the easy camp with no QB.

Action speaks louder than words, Edouard is the perfect transfer candidat.

That was my biggest question about Edourd as well, kid should have shown up and went head-head with Kaaya and Rosier.

 

[1jamaicancane]

Only downside of pairing him up with Kaaya as a developmental QB is that Edwards appears to be a guy who will pack it in if Kaaya is ahead of him their freshman year. Not a fan at all of his approach. His approach is a selfish one, and that doesn't bode well with QBs.

This! Edouard is all talk but when it's time to prove that he's here to compete, he chokes and take the easy camp with no QB.

Action speaks louder than words, Edouard is the perfect transfer candidat.

That was my biggest question about Edourd as well, kid should have shown up and went head-head with Kaaya and Rosier.

Unles his dad was actually on him about being at church that day which we don't know if it's true, but if he is that scared he would've decommitted already then listen to the talk about the other qbs imo

 

[Cans4life]

He's a Poor mans Jerrard Randall:

[video=youtube;bLn871q8mS0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLn871q8mS0[/video]

 

[Dwinstitles]

The only reason anyone talks about Teddy is because he beat Ufag, if Ufag had taken that **** serious no one would talk about Teddy. Dude plays garbage teams every week.

 

[canecountry3]

This kid, based on absolutely nothing, seems like one who would transfer before waiting 3 or 4 years to earn a starting job.

 

[motorcitycane]

I stand with any kid committed to ths Canes. Alin and co lets get it!

 

[bransuperpower]

Edouard has a VERY high ceiling. He also is very raw and has a pretty low floor. He does have a lot of the potential strengths of Bridgewater. But, Bridgewater produced A LOT more at the HS level. Edouard is a talent, but he is not as good of a prospect coming out as TB because TB was less risky. Edouard is a great talent to take as a 2nd QB along with a guy like Kaaya who seems to me a more proven commodity. I really like how our QB class looks right now

dude TB went to miami northwestern of course the production level will be higher

Really? He went to MNW? Wow, didn't know that! Tell me more!


I like Eduoard. I was one of the first people to defend his lower production because he has great tools as a prospect. That doesn't mean the lower production is not something to keep account of and consider.

Guess what? A lot of QBs that don't go to MNW and that play with less talent, complete over 50% of their passes

but production doesnt translate to the college game. we see players increase production and decrease production thats a variable thats not fair to judge in a QB on the high school level

Fair?

Every variable is fair to judge a HS QB prospect on. Especially a variable that indicates the success the QB has been able to have in doing what he is receiving a scholarship to do against HS competition. I fully believe that too much stock cannot be put into HS production for a QB. I don't want to just take the guy who threw for the most yards and call it a day. But, you can't say you don't like seeing that Kaaya completes over 70% of his passes. Then you watch his tape and see him going through progressions and it seems apparent that he is advanced in his mental game for the HS level. Does that mean Kaaya will complete 70% of his passes in college? I don't know, doubtful though. But, it does mean that there is basis to discuss the possibility that one of his strengths may be the mental part of the game, and that can provide hope in projecting him further in terms of getting over the hurdles of adjusting to the mental burden of the college game for a QB in a pro style system.

We are all recruiting junkies. And that entails getting to know as much as we can about each prospect and projecting how they may fit in at our program or what they may or may not be able to do at the next level. That means watching Edouard's highlight tape and being impressed. "****, this guy looks like RG3 out there". Then you do more research and find out that he threw for barely 800 yards on the year while completing less than 50% of his passes. That indicates that while he looked world-class in his highlight tape, there were a lot of other snaps which he was on the field and not looking like that. THat hints at inconsistency. You're telling me we shouldn't judge and dig further based on that? Regardless of his stats, not many can replicate his strengths. That is why he is getting offers from some great programs. But, that doesn't mean I gotta turn a blind eye to his potential weaknesses.

I agree we shouldn't make a totality of an assessment based on that one factor, but you're nuts if you think we should ignore any element of a prospect in analyzing them. I promise you our coaches aren't

i mean we dont have the whole game films(which our coaches prob do) you can throw perfect passes but if a receivers isnt in the right place or cant catch and maybe you dont have the best oline you are going to struggle as a QB. and dude your throwing in south fl every QB that comes down here says its different throwing to our receivers and against these DBs.

 

[sotacane22]

i think he looks really good wouldnt be suprised if he beats out kevin oslen sometime in his career he is really fast and has alot of talent i could see him taking us to a national championship he is very underatted looks faster more athletic than teddy but same fundementals as teddy

 

[jandman514]

Only downside of pairing him up with Kaaya as a developmental QB is that Edwards appears to be a guy who will pack it in if Kaaya is ahead of him their freshman year. Not a fan at all of his approach. His approach is a selfish one, and that doesn't bode well with QBs.

This! Edouard is all talk but when it's time to prove that he's here to compete, he chokes and take the easy camp with no QB.

Action speaks louder than words, Edouard is the perfect transfer candidat.

People said the same thing about Teddy and thought he was scared to compete now he's a 1st round qb prospect. U cant project how 17 year old kids pan out a year before they are even on your campus. The kid is committed to UM..

 

[dg151]

Their styles are really similar but Teddy had elite accuracy and an incredibly high football IQ even in HS. I don't know nearly enough about Alin's intelligence but his accuracy and consistent are an issue. Alin also seems to take off a lot quicker than Teddy would. Have to see how Alin improved next season to really be able to compare the two. Style they're incredibly similar with the size/athleticism/release, but projecting players based on visual similarities isn't going to lead to good results.

 

[TheMatador]

How hard a kid will work determines a lot about a kid's future as a QB.

We brought in a kid in the mid 80's who was not well known but might have had the strongest arm on a team that still had Testaverde--in fact, he might have had one of the strongest arms ever at the U. It was Greg Jones from Edison. Gary Stevens, then our OC, used to point out that Jones was always ready to run into the locker room as soon as practice was over. The few times I visited a team practice, I always saw the backup throwing to backup receivers fof a good long while afterwards. I saw Craig Erickson doing it on Greentree one year. One receiver I remember working with him was Dale Dawkiins. It paid off, since both became starters for us on the '80 championship team.

I snuck into the Sugar Bowl field after the last pre-game practice in '90. Gino was throwing to a bunch of young receivers after practice. With both guys, it was not just a few minutes and few throws. It went on for a very long time.

Greg Jones apparently was not interested, and i suspect Kenny Kelly was more focused on baseball, rather than becoming a top QB. It cost him.