Al on with Colin Cowherd today

[Port Knox]

Love the end tho...
Pencilnose- "Coach if you have a few hours on saturday, watch the A&M vs Bama game"
Golden- "I have enough to worry about, I'm sure will be fine"

The man gets it.

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

http://ufootball.tumblr.com/post/60950671184/coach-golden-joined-espn-radio-colin-cowherd

 

[sebastian91]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

 

[stat1124]

Here is both interviews. I added them to my soundcloud.

http://snd.sc/1ar1urx

 

[hoover437]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

Stop with the stuff that makes sense...when a football gets in trouble for trading a jersey to by food or books than let's talk...the stuff they are needing money for is ridiculous.

 

[hoops156]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

Stop with the stuff that makes sense...when a football gets in trouble for trading a jersey to by food or books than let's talk...the stuff they are needing money for is ridiculous.

**** good work Sebastian. That's an end thread statement

 

[jakeman1]

Interesting to hear that Golden thought he might hear from the NCAA this week in the Rome interview.

 

[kmwcane]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

Stop with the stuff that makes sense...when a football gets in trouble for trading a jersey to by food or books than let's talk...the stuff they are needing money for is ridiculous.

First, many players have said they need extra money for food and other such supplies. The stipend they are allowed to receive is pitiful.

Second, who are you to judge how someone spends their own money?

Third, how do you know they are being fully compensated under the current "system" when there is no way to determine their actual value due to the NCAA's rules? NFL players receive the finest in training, nutrition, medical care, etc... why isn't that good enough for them?

Fourth, what difference does it make to anyone if a college football player makes some money? What effect does that have on you personally? I'm not even an advocate of college players being paid salaries like the NFL. I think they should have their stipends increased and be treated like Olympic amateur athletes are (endorsements, make money of their own images/signatures, etc). But I will never understand the group of people that become so enraged at the mere mention of college football players getting something more for the labor they put in. The way the NCAA has the system set up now is un-American.

 

[theibisrules]

Wow, Jason Whitlock is a complete moron.

What did he say that was moronic? That the system is broken, and as long as kids are not gettiing paid, they will take handouts. That's probably true.

They are getting paid. They're getting a free education (sometimes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars), far better meals than any other student, access to far better educational resources, access to far better facilities, far more lenient admittance standards....the list goes on and on. The system is definitely broken and needs to be overhauled, but Jason Whitlock conveniently ignores all of these things that football players get that aren't available to the average student.

That is the MOST ridiculous thing I have EVER heard...clearly, you have never played college sports. First of all, an athlete NEVER gets to choose the classes he wants to take to better him or herself, they have to take classes that are directed from the coaches and the so called academic advisers. A college athlete must stay within the GPA requirements, if they dip below the requirements they are not eligible to play and the coach WILL NOT have that. Examples of this: the $EC, Okie State, UNC, Oregon, and USCw. Educate yourself dude....educate yourself.

 

[ghost2]

Wow, Jason Whitlock is a complete moron.

What did he say that was moronic? That the system is broken, and as long as kids are not gettiing paid, they will take handouts. That's probably true.

They are getting paid. They're getting a free education (sometimes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars), far better meals than any other student, access to far better educational resources, access to far better facilities, far more lenient admittance standards....the list goes on and on. The system is definitely broken and needs to be overhauled, but Jason Whitlock conveniently ignores all of these things that football players get that aren't available to the average student.

That is the MOST ridiculous thing I have EVER heard...clearly, you have never played college sports. First of all, an athlete NEVER gets to choose the classes he wants to take to better him or herself, they have to take classes that are directed from the coaches and the so called academic advisers. A college athlete must stay within the GPA requirements, if they dip below the requirements they are not eligible to play and the coach WILL NOT have that. Examples of this: the $EC, Okie State, UNC, Oregon, and USCw. Educate yourself dude....educate yourself.

Soooooo.....just like every other student then?

 

[[]_[]nique-31]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

You had to add all the other students together to get those numbers. The 85 or so scholarship football players bring in tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to their schools by themselves!!! That's the difference.

 

[theibisrules]

Wow, Jason Whitlock is a complete moron.

What did he say that was moronic? That the system is broken, and as long as kids are not gettiing paid, they will take handouts. That's probably true.

They are getting paid. They're getting a free education (sometimes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars), far better meals than any other student, access to far better educational resources, access to far better facilities, far more lenient admittance standards....the list goes on and on. The system is definitely broken and needs to be overhauled, but Jason Whitlock conveniently ignores all of these things that football players get that aren't available to the average student.

That is the MOST ridiculous thing I have EVER heard...clearly, you have never played college sports. First of all, an athlete NEVER gets to choose the classes he wants to take to better him or herself, they have to take classes that are directed from the coaches and the so called academic advisers. A college athlete must stay within the GPA requirements, if they dip below the requirements they are not eligible to play and the coach WILL NOT have that. Examples of this: the $EC, Okie State, UNC, Oregon, and USCw. Educate yourself dude....educate yourself.

Soooooo.....just like every other student then?

Not quite, regular students don't have to worry about the coach yelling at them to take certain classes, such as no-show classes, classes where only athletes attend, and other educational ATTROCITIES. The coveted degree you scream about usually only assures one that they can wash cars for a living or sell insurance.

 

[AboutTheU05]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

LOL, you can't be serious with this. Yes, the "average student" as a whole is the bread and butter for the funding of an academic institution and it's goals but it doesn't fit in this argument. Take what someone like Manziel means for the funding of the athletic program at Texas A&M. The TV ratings, donations from boosters, athletic apparel sales, attendance for games, bowl game incentives, and compare that to what he is given in return by the school based on what the NCAA (who profits substantially from all of this) allows. From a business sense it's ludacris and make no mistake, college football is big business. Comparing what he alone means to the Texas A&M athletic program and school to the whole student body makes zero sense in terms of what he should be given in return compared to one "average student". Obviously not all college football players bring this kind of attention and compensation to universities and the NCAA, actually only a certain few do, but it's still an exploitation of young adults who are required to perform both on the field and in the classroom. At least according to the laughable rules and guidelines of the NCAA.

 

[UCFCane07]

Interesting to hear that Golden thought he might hear from the NCAA this week in the Rome interview.

Anyone shocked by this?

 

[The Franchise]

Too much talk from Goldens. He **** sure better win this bye week.

 

[sebastian91]

Wow, Jason Whitlock is a complete moron.

What did he say that was moronic? That the system is broken, and as long as kids are not gettiing paid, they will take handouts. That's probably true.

They are getting paid. They're getting a free education (sometimes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars), far better meals than any other student, access to far better educational resources, access to far better facilities, far more lenient admittance standards....the list goes on and on. The system is definitely broken and needs to be overhauled, but Jason Whitlock conveniently ignores all of these things that football players get that aren't available to the average student.

That is the MOST ridiculous thing I have EVER heard...clearly, you have never played college sports. First of all, an athlete NEVER gets to choose the classes he wants to take to better him or herself, they have to take classes that are directed from the coaches and the so called academic advisers. A college athlete must stay within the GPA requirements, if they dip below the requirements they are not eligible to play and the coach WILL NOT have that. Examples of this: the $EC, Okie State, UNC, Oregon, and USCw. Educate yourself dude....educate yourself.

So Linder, a marine biology major last I heard, is taking the same classes as every other player, as dictated by the coaches? THAT is the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard.

 

[theibisrules]

1 GoldenS 2 GoldenS 3 GoldenS 4...

 

[theibisrules]

how many GOLDENS do you have?

 

[sebastian91]

Average students don't usually bring in tens of millions of dollars to their university either. That scholarship money is like a crumb from a cookie....it's just not equal.

10500 undergrads * $60k/year cost of attendance = $630M. Add in 5000 grad students. The average student is the bread and butter. Research funding of $326M, which wouldn't happen without the 'average students'. Add in the annual giving initiatives. Football is probably the 'crumb from a cookie' at Miami.

LOL, you can't be serious with this. Yes, the "average student" as a whole is the bread and butter for the funding of an academic institution and it's goals but it doesn't fit in this argument. Take what someone like Manziel means for the funding of the athletic program at Texas A&M. The TV ratings, donations from boosters, athletic apparel sales, attendance for games, bowl game incentives, and compare that to what he is given in return by the school based on what the NCAA (who profits substantially from all of this) allows. From a business sense it's ludacris and make no mistake, college football is big business. Comparing what he alone means to the Texas A&M athletic program and school to the whole student body makes zero sense in terms of what he should be given in return compared to one "average student". Obviously not all college football players bring this kind of attention and compensation to universities and the NCAA, actually only a certain few do, but it's still an exploitation of young adults who are required to perform both on the field and in the classroom. At least according to the laughable rules and guidelines of the NCAA.

Read the post I responded to. Look, I'm not saying that the system isn't broken...it is. What I'm saying is that paying the players is not the way to fix it, and Jason Whitlock is still an idiot for ignoring what the players do get.