Al Golden Understands the Importance of Stability

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Go to **** OP

 

[Bigtip]

I think Dorito has lost these guys on defense.

the next 3 games are gonna be embarrassing. I'd fire his as today

 

[TheBigBrow]

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Yet another example of why CiS posters get made fun

 

[rok]

I'll just leave this here so OP can let it marinate for a little

From Feldman's new column....

•I realize the Miami D is not very good, but give credit to Logan Thomas and the Hokies for an inspired effort in a rainy road win after consecutive losses against unranked opponents. Thomas had his best game of the season and maybe his career, completing 81 percent of his passes (25 of 31) for 366 yards and no picks. He also ran for 42 yards in 42-24 win. Tech was a sterling 8 of 14 on third-down conversions and rolled up a season-high 549 yards.

jiminy christmas man

Golden: either fire Dorito and allow someone else to install a new defense or GTFO of my city douche

 

[Jassid82]

I really dont know what to say anymore about this argument. Its funny because if we really want Dnofrio gone its like we would have to pray for the team to lose 2 out of the next 3 games in embarassing fashion. (kinda like the Vtech) And I for one could never root for that. No matter how bad I wanted Donofrio gone. The Seniors deserve better. If we win the next 3 (even if the defense looks like utter CRAP in those wins) there is no way Golden is firing Dnofrio after going 10-2. So its kinda like we are stuck with this mess either way. Smh. So I guess our only hope is that we just bring in so much "4-5 star" talent that it will mask the schemes and make Golden and Donofrio look good.

 

[RepTheGables]

For once we have a coach that isn't willing to let go of his coordinators the minute things seem bad. The past 10+ years the instability here has been horrendous because we had moronic coaches that listened to everything the media and fans had to say, who don't know anything about coaching nor our philosophy. I respect the fact Golden is trying his hardest to right this ship and has enough confidence in himself and his staff that will keep us going in the right direction. Having stability will allow our players to feel more and more comfortable in our system as the years go on. Right now we have seniors (who are mostly garbage to begin with) that understand the philosophy just as much as our sophomores, that's a big problem. Eventually we won't have to depend on 75% of players who don't fully grasp the system because they're too young.

Must of you don't understand we are still in the beginning stages of being "back". Al Golden has alluded to that like 50 times this year. Al Golden had to rebuild our program from the ground up after the mess Shannon left behind and then to compound that he had to deal with the NCAA. As a team, we've endure a lot and the fact after JUST 3 years we're going for double digit wins is impressive. It took the great Butch Davis 5 years to get to that point and he didn't have to deal with half the **** Golden has.

Right now isn't the time to start firing anyone. You guys can't say we are underachieving because whether you want to admit it or not, we only have a handful of talented players on this team atm. When we have a team loaded with talent and consistently underachieve like FSU has the past 3-4 years, then it's time to fire people. But right now, there's no point. All it's gonna do is set us back once again.

If, by stability, you mean mediocrity, then you are exactly right. Otherwise, no.

Get the **** out of here, you douchebag Nole.

 

[fastcane]

Bottom line is our D line sucks, for what ever reason they can't get pressure on the QB. Doesn't matter how many they send, that is telling me most of them are not very good players. Great players find a way to get to the QB, average ones don't. It is what it is. Even an average QB will destroy any D if he has all day to throw, fix that and things will change. Everyone keeps on talking about talent, we don't have that many great players, again, it is what it is. Looks like we will be upgrading quite a bit next year. People who are saying we should beat Duke because they have no talent are brain dead. I'd say our chances of winning that game without DJ and PD are 30% at best. We are not that talented of a team, that is the bottom line and Morris is not the biggest problem, he played good enough to win.

When you look at Bama, offensive coaches have come and gone the past few years, it doesn't matter the talent is there. Their players are superior to ours, that's why they keep winning, coaches can only do so much. It's mostly the lack of talent that is coming into play here. Zones work if you get to the QB's, everything works if you get to the QB, we can't.

Compare us at every position on D to Bama. Defensive line a 3 on a scale of 1-10. Our linebackers a 3, our D backs a 5. Recruit better players and we win. You don't stop great players even with average coaches coaching them they stand out all over the country good teams or bad. Our talent level is average at best, until we raise that level, keep most of the best SF kids at home this is where we stay. Our younger players are better than the older players and the ones coming in are better than many of they younger players, it will take more time, that's just the way it will be.

 

[SBAMACANE]

I think Dorito has lost these guys on defense.

the next 3 games are gonna be embarrassing. I'd fire his as today

You could be right!!

 

[fastcane]

A new coach with the same ****** players = ****** Defense. There is a reason why we won't have any first round pics in the NFL the next two years, our players are not that good. Doesn't matter if the best NFL D coach is here, great players stand out, we have one great player right now and he's out. On D we don't have one great player at this time, not saying a couple of freshmen won't get there but we don't have one right now. Very average offensive lines are beating our players, they are not very good, ***** blaming the coach for that. Now you want to blame them for not recruiting great players fine, but we have to pass on that for the past 3 years right now. With the way our D line plays, Duke is probably the better team next week. If we had the 2001's team talent on D you think a coach mattered to them, they played lights because they were better players. Great coaches can make great players better. Great coaches can't make players into Ray L. Coker didn't run that team, the team ran itself, they didn't need a great coach, they had awesome players.

I'll just leave this here so OP can let it marinate for a little

From Feldman's new column....

•I realize the Miami D is not very good, but give credit to Logan Thomas and the Hokies for an inspired effort in a rainy road win after consecutive losses against unranked opponents. Thomas had his best game of the season and maybe his career, completing 81 percent of his passes (25 of 31) for 366 yards and no picks. He also ran for 42 yards in 42-24 win. Tech was a sterling 8 of 14 on third-down conversions and rolled up a season-high 549 yards.

jiminy christmas man

Golden: either fire Dorito and allow someone else to install a new defense or GTFO of my city douche

 

[fastcane]

Please tell me who are the great players we have on D? I don't see one as of right now, maybe a freshmen will be great in two years or so, just don't see great talent anywhere on D right now. I think some of the younger players have more potential but nobody right now sticks out like the 2001 players did. You're expecting great plays every week from average players, just not going to happen. Doesn't matter who is coaching them. We have one great player right now and he's hurt and a few very good receivers, probably 2 very good offensive linemen, the rest are very average. Expectations are way too high for a team with so many average players. Much more potential for the freshmen and new class. Doesn't matter who is coaching this team, it's average, sucks, but it is what it is. We are lucky we are 7-2 and it's very possible we end up at 8-4. The kids for the most part have played hard all season, but the talent is just not there yet.

I think Dorito has lost these guys on defense.a

the next 3 games are gonna be embarrassing. I'd fire his as today

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

I'll just leave this here so OP can let it marinate for a little

From Feldman's new column....

•I realize the Miami D is not very good, but give credit to Logan Thomas and the Hokies for an inspired effort in a rainy road win after consecutive losses against unranked opponents. Thomas had his best game of the season and maybe his career, completing 81 percent of his passes (25 of 31) for 366 yards and no picks. He also ran for 42 yards in 42-24 win. Tech was a sterling 8 of 14 on third-down conversions and rolled up a season-high 549 yards.

Logan played well but I'm pretty sure I could have completed most of those passes. He had all day to throw and his receivers were wide open because they were being covered by a LB while our DBs were 20 yards off the ball.

 

[The Franchise]

Please tell me who are the great players we have on D? I don't see one as of right now, maybe a freshmen will be great in two years or so, just don't see great talent anywhere on D right now. I think some of the younger players have more potential but nobody right now sticks out like the 2001 players did. You're expecting great plays every week from average players, just not going to happen. Doesn't matter who is coaching them. We have one great player right now and he's hurt and a few very good receivers, probably 2 very good offensive linemen, the rest are very average. Expectations are way too high for a team with so many average players. Much more potential for the freshmen and new class. Doesn't matter who is coaching this team, it's average, sucks, but it is what it is. We are lucky we are 7-2 and it's very possible we end up at 8-4. The kids for the most part have played hard all season, but the talent is just not there yet.

I think Dorito has lost these guys on defense.a

the next 3 games are gonna be embarrassing. I'd fire his as today

Tell me all the great players Duke has. They smashed the VT offense even with 4 turnovers from Duke's QB. I don't expect this to be a great defense because I acknowledge the personnel issues. I just expect us to get better and be better. We can't continue to get humiliated by average offenses and bad offenses.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

It took the great Butch Davis 5 years to get to that point and he didn't have to deal with half the **** Golden has.

lol

What's wrong with what i said? I'm talking of in terms of getting to double digit wins. Al Golden has the opportunity to win 10 maybe even 11 games in his 3rd year.

Butch Davis accomplished that in his 5th and final year in 2000.

I know Butch also had to endure being under probation and all, but it's incomparable to what Al Golden had to go through.

Butch davis didn't go out seeking the easiest schedule humanly possible. I'm sure he would have killed to play FAU, SSU, USF, Wake, UVA, GT (with Paul Johnson in charge), Duke and Pitt.

LOL at that schedule. I didn't even include a terrible VT team and a bad UNC team or a down UF team. If you can't get to ten wins with that schedule I don't know what to tell you.

Butch didnt need to, we played in the Big East dude. Rutgers, Temple, Pitt, BC, Cuse and VT were our toughest conference games, and remember the days of being OWNED by East Carolina??? Lets not go into retardville now.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

Butch didnt need to, we played in the Big East dude. Rutgers, Temple, Pitt, BC, Cuse and VT were our toughest conference games, and remember the days of being OWNED by East Carolina??? Lets not go into retardville now.

There is a lot of selective memory when it comes to Butch because he was such a monster recruiter and he delivered our last MNC. The reality is that it took time for him to get the program back to "elite" status (understandably) and a lot of fans routinely lamented his gameday coaching.