AH4 update

[Coach Macho]

McKenzie also left as a Junior.

I'm not gonna get into this debate again. Anybody who thinks McKenzie wouldn't have been a huge value to us is silly. Berrios had a great Senior year but before that this wasn't even a discussion.

Before that he missed most of a season, and was playing out of position. If he had 4 years in the slot..... Oh well.

Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Not even trying to prove one point or another. Just look how close these two were.
Berrios vs McKenzie
ESPN:
Berrios 289 overall
McKenzie 286 overall

Rivals:
Berrios 5.8 #39 WR
McKenzie 5.8 #35 WR

247:
Berrios: 277 overall, #42 WR
McKenzie: 151 overall, #23 WR

Scout, in typical scout fashion, must have hated both of them, because their composite scores are not even close to the 3 listed above.

Testing results:
Berrios: 5’9/181
McKenzie: 5’8/160

40 yard dash
Berrios: 4.52
McKenzie: 4.56

20 yard shuttle
Berrios: 3.81
McKenzie: 4.54

Vertical
Berrios: 40
McKenzie: 36

Power Throw
Berrios: 38
McKenzie: 35

SPARQ Rating
Berrios: 131.37
McKenzie: 87.84

Point is, even the recruiting services had these 2 very close and we had the worst head coach in Miami history doing evaluations.

Except there was one thing that Sparq couldn't measure...

The fact that McKenzie was running circles around everybody on AH's schedule including loaded Dade County teams.

Coaches don't use those numbers to extend offers.

 

[Coach Macho]

FFS, move on.

STFU. Don't like the discussion then don't read it.

you are incapable of letting anything go....must be a joy to hang out with. Grow up. You don't have to beat your opinion into everyone's head. You come across as a bitter little kid.

And you come across as a whiny *****. Him and I are having discussion. If I'm not "letting ago" then what is he doing? (the same thing)

STFU.

It's a DISCUSSION...And I'm done. I only had a problem with his "legitimate gripe" stance.

It's done.

Thanks for info as usual, Macho. I was not attacking you, not that you care if I was.

I didn't think you were.

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

Before that he missed most of a season, and was playing out of position. If he had 4 years in the slot..... Oh well.

Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Not even trying to prove one point or another. Just look how close these two were.
Berrios vs McKenzie
ESPN:
Berrios 289 overall
McKenzie 286 overall

Rivals:
Berrios 5.8 #39 WR
McKenzie 5.8 #35 WR

247:
Berrios: 277 overall, #42 WR
McKenzie: 151 overall, #23 WR

Scout, in typical scout fashion, must have hated both of them, because their composite scores are not even close to the 3 listed above.

Testing results:
Berrios: 5’9/181
McKenzie: 5’8/160

40 yard dash
Berrios: 4.52
McKenzie: 4.56

20 yard shuttle
Berrios: 3.81
McKenzie: 4.54

Vertical
Berrios: 40
McKenzie: 36

Power Throw
Berrios: 38
McKenzie: 35

SPARQ Rating
Berrios: 131.37
McKenzie: 87.84

Point is, even the recruiting services had these 2 very close and we had the worst head coach in Miami history doing evaluations.

Except there was one thing that Sparq couldn't measure...

The fact that McKenzie was running circles around everybody on AH's schedule including loaded Dade County teams.

Coaches don't use those numbers to extend offers.

lol two words: Al Golden. Nothing about that ******* would surprise me.

 

[Coach Macho]

Guys, NOBODY knows anything with these kids. I’ve said that from the beginning.

Miami coaches have gone stealth for a reason, so let them do what they get paid to do.

You will NOT hear anything on these kids unless THEY decide to leak it.

@Corch Nacho

[MENTION=16725]fran[/MENTION]kTheFa99ot

You write short stories in your comments thinking that most people value your input. It's quite comical.

Almost as comical as you calling yourself a tank.

 

[Jassid82]

Guys, NOBODY knows anything with these kids. I’ve said that from the beginning.

Miami coaches have gone stealth for a reason, so let them do what they get paid to do.

You will NOT hear anything on these kids unless THEY decide to leak it.

Welp..that nukes this thread officially. 10-4.

 

[Coach Macho]

Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Not even trying to prove one point or another. Just look how close these two were.
Berrios vs McKenzie
ESPN:
Berrios 289 overall
McKenzie 286 overall

Rivals:
Berrios 5.8 #39 WR
McKenzie 5.8 #35 WR

247:
Berrios: 277 overall, #42 WR
McKenzie: 151 overall, #23 WR

Scout, in typical scout fashion, must have hated both of them, because their composite scores are not even close to the 3 listed above.

Testing results:
Berrios: 5’9/181
McKenzie: 5’8/160

40 yard dash
Berrios: 4.52
McKenzie: 4.56

20 yard shuttle
Berrios: 3.81
McKenzie: 4.54

Vertical
Berrios: 40
McKenzie: 36

Power Throw
Berrios: 38
McKenzie: 35

SPARQ Rating
Berrios: 131.37
McKenzie: 87.84

Point is, even the recruiting services had these 2 very close and we had the worst head coach in Miami history doing evaluations.

Except there was one thing that Sparq couldn't measure...

The fact that McKenzie was running circles around everybody on AH's schedule including loaded Dade County teams.

Coaches don't use those numbers to extend offers.

lol two words: Al Golden. Nothing would surprise me about that *******.

Touche'.

 

[skeeter]

Macho, was there any truth at all to that AH people and Mckenzie's people kinda thought it was best he get away for school? Being he came up rough. I remember Rumph saying in an article about him that his apartment complex and family probs was basically like "little baghdad" or something to that effect?

Or did they want him at UM?

 

[Dan Sileo JR]

Macho buddy, no hard feelings but can you go fight off trolls in another thread, or simply ignore them?

You quoting pages of convo nothing to do with the AH4 in this thread is hella annoying.

Also, no need to respond to me, we good.

 

[The Franchise]

Before that he missed most of a season, and was playing out of position. If he had 4 years in the slot..... Oh well.

Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Not even trying to prove one point or another. Just look how close these two were.
Berrios vs McKenzie
ESPN:
Berrios 289 overall
McKenzie 286 overall

Rivals:
Berrios 5.8 #39 WR
McKenzie 5.8 #35 WR

247:
Berrios: 277 overall, #42 WR
McKenzie: 151 overall, #23 WR

Scout, in typical scout fashion, must have hated both of them, because their composite scores are not even close to the 3 listed above.

Testing results:
Berrios: 5’9/181
McKenzie: 5’8/160

40 yard dash
Berrios: 4.52
McKenzie: 4.56

20 yard shuttle
Berrios: 3.81
McKenzie: 4.54

Vertical
Berrios: 40
McKenzie: 36

Power Throw
Berrios: 38
McKenzie: 35

SPARQ Rating
Berrios: 131.37
McKenzie: 87.84

Point is, even the recruiting services had these 2 very close and we had the worst head coach in Miami history doing evaluations.

Except there was one thing that Sparq couldn't measure...

The fact that McKenzie was running circles around everybody on AH's schedule including loaded Dade County teams.

Coaches don't use those numbers to extend offers.

Urban Meyer is an idiot too. He wanted Berrios, but he didn't care about McKenzie.

Like I said, if we had to offer everyone that local coaches and leeches want us to offer we'd need 498 scholarships every year.

 

[IndayArtHauz]

Still waiting for any semblance of news or update that is supposed to make us believe we are in this outside of some posters on a message board saying we are...

So you’ve ignored every update from Ivins and UGA writers?

UGA writers don't think we have a chance. Rivals. ESPN. Outside sources. There is no consistent buzz or really mention of us for them outside of this board. Either Ivins and DSJ are the only 2 people on Earth that know they are coming outside of the families, or we are really trying to make ourselves believe we are going to pull it off. There isn't enough smoke around interest as of right now to believe we get them. The OVs are great - I don't want to discount that. But I just don't believe in a covert recruitment/commitment scenario like what is being presented. It's been almost a month since anyone said we had a chance. Even Pete said he didn't think we get either of them. If your stance is reasonable then so is mine given the information available.

Saying “no one outside of this board is saying we have a chance” is an error by your own admission. Very few people are saying “Miami has no chance,” in fact most honest people think we have a decent chance of getting at least 1 AH kid +Nesta.

What you seem to be doing is conflating “I think ____ is going to UGA/Bama/LSU/Florida” with “I think Miami has no chance to land anyone.” I reject that as reasonable because I don’t think anyone would be shocked if an AH kid picked Miami, even though they predict he would go elsewhere.

 

[Coach Macho]

Macho buddy, no hard feelings but can you go fight off trolls in another thread, or simply ignore them?

You quoting pages of convo nothing to do with the AH4 in this thread is hella annoying.

Also, no need to respond to me, we good.

You right.

 

[coffeecane]

Well you aren't going to like this but I figure someone is going to ask for the info.

Cane Sport just put out an update after talking to two separate sources regarding the American Heritage kids.

Silvera: 100% Cane per both sources.

Chatfield: Between Miami and UF and both sources claim that he's going to pick Florida.

Surtain: One source says LSU is the favorite while the other said Bama but both said they doubt Miami even has a chance.

Campbell: One source said that it's Georgia, Bama and Miami in that order and the other source said 100% chance he ISN'T going to Miami

They asked one of the sources why Miami is having trouble with American Heritage kids and the source mentioned that AH wasn't happy with Miami offering Berrios over McKenzie back in 2014 or when they didn't offer Michel's brother. Said that Miami offers the elite guys at the school but doesn't extend offers to the plan B guys but extend offers to questionable players at other locations.


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Reading the last part seems pretty dumb considering it was a different coaching staff that made those choices. Either way, that's the update from Canesport this morning so do with that what you will.

Thanks for sharing the exact same news we have heard over the last month.. I really appreciate it.

 

[BrentIsACuckGBRsucks]

Guys, NOBODY knows anything with these kids. I’ve said that from the beginning.

Miami coaches have gone stealth for a reason, so let them do what they get paid to do.

You will NOT hear anything on these kids unless THEY decide to leak it.

@Corch Nacho

[MENTION=16725]fran[/MENTION]kTheFa99ot

You write short stories in your comments thinking that most people value your input. It's quite comical.

Almost as comical as you calling yourself a tank.

:26V9R6P:

 

[Rellyrell]

So let me get this straight; AH coaches are allegedly holding a grudge against Miami for not offering McKenzie from the old staff, yet Urban gets a pass for lying to Gibson, virtually killing his football dreams? But, who are these staff members? Wasn’t Rumph the coach at this time and he’s now one of our coaches? Did not Richt offer the AH kids while at UGA, but now he’s our head guy? None, and I mean NONE of that makes sense. That sounded like regurgitated chit that came from like 2015.

 

[CaneOil]

Guys, NOBODY knows anything with these kids. I’ve said that from the beginning.

Miami coaches have gone stealth for a reason, so let them do what they get paid to do.

You will NOT hear anything on these kids unless THEY decide to leak it.

@Corch Nacho

[MENTION=16725]fran[/MENTION]kTheFa99ot

You write short stories in your comments thinking that most people value your input. It's quite comical.

Almost as comical as you calling yourself a tank.

Most of us like your posts, I always stop and read them. You make this site more enjoyable glad you post here. Thanks!

 

[Truth3105]

If said kid has offers from UGA, Clemson, UF, FSU, etc...

Then it might be a legitimate gripe. Again, that's not happening now but it happened a lot under Golden. We ignored kids with offers like that in favor of kids with offers from Akron.

Golden made a lot of mistakes, that's why isn't here...But name 3 other kids (Quincy Wilson is obv one of them) that could have committed to GA, CU, UF, FSU that UM didn't offer. I'll wait.

Those schools aren't the only measuring sticks, I just mentioned them off the top of my head. We've passed on local kids that offers from teams like South Carolina who went on to college and produced. (or other top-25 teams) Golden passed on them for kids that had offers from Akron, Duke, and teams like that.

Dowels had offers from Clemson, Oklahoma and Texas A&M.
Skai Moore went to South Carolina and balled. No offer from Golden.
When we were at a shortage for DB's, there were South FLA kids all over the country starting at DB who we passed on.
****, I would've taken Dedrick Nichols over some of the scrubs Golden signed.

FFS, move on.

STFU. Don't like the discussion then don't read it.

Chad, is that you?

 

[CaneMatt02]

Well you aren't going to like this but I figure someone is going to ask for the info.

Cane Sport just put out an update after talking to two separate sources regarding the American Heritage kids.

Silvera: 100% Cane per both sources.

Chatfield: Between Miami and UF and both sources claim that he's going to pick Florida.

Surtain: One source says LSU is the favorite while the other said Bama but both said they doubt Miami even has a chance.

Campbell: One source said that it's Georgia, Bama and Miami in that order and the other source said 100% chance he ISN'T going to Miami

They asked one of the sources why Miami is having trouble with American Heritage kids and the source mentioned that AH wasn't happy with Miami offering Berrios over McKenzie back in 2014 or when they didn't offer Michel's brother. Said that Miami offers the elite guys at the school but doesn't extend offers to the plan B guys but extend offers to questionable players at other locations.


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Reading the last part seems pretty dumb considering it was a different coaching staff that made those choices. Either way, that's the update from Canesport this morning so do with that what you will.

Thanks for sharing the exact same news we have heard over the last month.. I really appreciate it.

No problem, I'm glad I can share info from this crappy paid site so some of you ungrateful ones can complain about it.

 

[Tony Perps]

WHo the **** cares about Isaiah mckenzie. My goodness.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I miss Pete.

 

[Captain Uberpants]

The only guarantee is...Next Wednesday is going to be wild. Some posters are either going to be crowned or banished, become insiders (and possibly the new face of this site) or labeled trolls, be the hero or the villain.


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