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I feel like I owe the OP some money after all that information. Good job.:monkey-serious:
 
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A Big plus to the entire success of Diaz's defense will be coach Kool working and teaching the DL.

No more pitty pack with OL,its ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

This brings a change with our players attitude,knowing they are "allow" to attack. I except to see our entire defense play faster in Diaz defense.
 
In consecutive paragraphs you said

"and was below average in getting 3 and outs, and ending drives quickly."

and

"When it comes to 3rd down defense, you will see they did a very good job with stopping teams on 3rd down"

What were you trying to communicate about the defense regarding third down?
 
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westcoastcanes said:
In consecutive paragraphs you said

"and was below average in getting 3 and outs, and ending drives quickly."

and

"When it comes to 3rd down defense, you will see they did a very good job with stopping teams on 3rd down"

What were you trying to communicate about the defense regarding third down?
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That if Diaz can get the offense to third down (and often 3rd and long if he can get TFLs which is clearly a priority for his system) he will often stop the 1st down conversion. But will often give up the 1st down before getting to that point (presumably because he's not generating enough pressure on that set of downs).
 
fivecent said:
Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like Doritos defense? Not in methdolgy, but end result.

p.s. It would be nice if you had a picture showing the "hole" you are talking about.
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The only similarity is the "keep everything in front of you" secondary alignment. Everything Diaz does with his front 7 is the exact opposite of D'onofrio.
 
I watched several of Miss St. games after we hired Diaz. A couple things first you have to look at first is you cant just look at the stats from his defense there. You have to watch the game as a whole to see how the offense contributed, momentum of the game, ect. The biggest thing I noticed was that the Miss St. offense did not help the defense too much. Lots of three and outs and I mean ALOT! Second as the OP mentioned the players were put in position to make plays just failed to do so. Which made the difference in the Alabama game those long runs by henry he broke multiple tackles or the defenders just missed nothing the DC can do about that. All in all im excited to see what his defense will look like with a little more speed. I like that the OP mentioned the 6x4 area covered, very good point!
 
Its too easy to say " he was put in position to make a play" without respect to that player's athletic ability and pre snap alignment.

Real coaches know exactly where to align a player to heighten his strengths and limit his weaknesses.

Its why Belichick is the goat and why Wade Phillips is the truth.

Too many times fans blasted this team because it LOOKED like dorito had them in position to make plays because they missed the tackle. When in reality its a blessing they even had a chance to MISS the tackle based upon how bad they were aligned presnap.


ill have to look at this footage too.
 
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fivecent said:
Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like Doritos defense? Not in methdolgy, but end result.

p.s. It would be nice if you had a picture showing the "hole" you are talking about.
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Dude kept using words like "pressure" and "press" and "attack", and you think this is the same defense? I know it had lots of words and stuff, but were you paying any attention at all?
 
Canezum5 said:
Its too easy to say " he was put in position to make a play" without respect to that player's athletic ability and pre snap alignment.

Real coaches know exactly where to align a player to heighten his strengths and limit his weaknesses.

Its why Belichick is the goat and why Wade Phillips is the truth.

Too many times fans blasted this team because it LOOKED like dorito had them in position to make plays because they missed the tackle. When in reality its a blessing they even had a chance to MISS the tackle based upon how bad they were aligned presnap.


ill have to look at this footage too.
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True, remember Dallas Crawford practically giving up a td against Cincinnati cause he was idfk looking the wrong way I guess
 
Your post was fascinating. I have never seen or heard a better analysis of football stats. I'm sure that coaching staffs use this type of analysis all the time but it is very enlightening for a typical fan and I will view our new defense with great interest because of your post.
I can't wait to see our guys in action this year.

GO CANES!!!!!
 
CaneSwag said:
westcoastcanes said:
In consecutive paragraphs you said

"and was below average in getting 3 and outs, and ending drives quickly."

and

"When it comes to 3rd down defense, you will see they did a very good job with stopping teams on 3rd down"

What were you trying to communicate about the defense regarding third down?
Click to expand...
That if Diaz can get the offense to third down (and often 3rd and long if he can get TFLs which is clearly a priority for his system) he will often stop the 1st down conversion. But will often give up the 1st down before getting to that point (presumably because he's not generating enough pressure on that set of downs).
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word thanks
 
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MIATL said:
fivecent said:
Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like Doritos defense? Not in methdolgy, but end result.

p.s. It would be nice if you had a picture showing the "hole" you are talking about.
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Respectfully, every DC has the same end result in mind. Stop the run, and limit the big play.

Do so with gap integrity and sound tackling. That's what Coach D'Onofrio wanted, it's what Coach Diaz wants, it's what Brent Venables wants at Clemson, Coach Saban wants at Bama, and every other elite level defensive coach.

The difference, and what makes a DC good or bad, is the methodology ... Particularly at the LOS and the defensive formations.

What this VERY THOROUGH write-up is doing is explaining the change in methodology. There aren't really any "new" defenses. The elite defenses have great players, an ability to confuse the offense (allowing the D to play faster than the offenses), and a quality coaching staff that can teach what they want AND understand the tendencies and preferences of their opposition.

Under our previous staff, we had some decent players. But we didn't cause any confusion for opposing offenses. And while our staff could teach what they were trying to accomplish, they really weren't great at understanding preferences and tendencies of opposing teams.

Diaz will have players. Diaz will create some confusion with formations. What will make or break Diaz is how well his guys teach, and how good are they at understanding preferences and tendencies of the teams we play, IMO.

Great job, OP!

Very informative and objective.
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IMO the issue with the previous staff was not about understanding preferences and tendencies. It was that their defense was not sound. It was not sound in how they lined up to the concepts behind it. The defense they ran was almost always at a disadvantage before the ball was even snapped.
 
Torocane said:
MIATL said:
fivecent said:
Is it just me, or does this sound a lot like Doritos defense? Not in methdolgy, but end result.

p.s. It would be nice if you had a picture showing the "hole" you are talking about.
Click to expand...

Respectfully, every DC has the same end result in mind. Stop the run, and limit the big play.

Do so with gap integrity and sound tackling. That's what Coach D'Onofrio wanted, it's what Coach Diaz wants, it's what Brent Venables wants at Clemson, Coach Saban wants at Bama, and every other elite level defensive coach.

The difference, and what makes a DC good or bad, is the methodology ... Particularly at the LOS and the defensive formations.

What this VERY THOROUGH write-up is doing is explaining the change in methodology. There aren't really any "new" defenses. The elite defenses have great players, an ability to confuse the offense (allowing the D to play faster than the offenses), and a quality coaching staff that can teach what they want AND understand the tendencies and preferences of their opposition.

Under our previous staff, we had some decent players. But we didn't cause any confusion for opposing offenses. And while our staff could teach what they were trying to accomplish, they really weren't great at understanding preferences and tendencies of opposing teams.

Diaz will have players. Diaz will create some confusion with formations. What will make or break Diaz is how well his guys teach, and how good are they at understanding preferences and tendencies of the teams we play, IMO.

Great job, OP!

Very informative and objective.
Click to expand...

IMO the issue with the previous staff was not about understanding preferences and tendencies. It was that their defense was not sound. It was not sound in how they lined up to the concepts behind it. The defense they ran was almost always at a disadvantage before the ball was even snapped.
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Thank God them ****'s are gone
 
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Ericrdreier said:
I watched several of Miss St. games after we hired Diaz. A couple things first you have to look at first is you cant just look at the stats from his defense there. You have to watch the game as a whole to see how the offense contributed, momentum of the game, ect. The biggest thing I noticed was that the Miss St. offense did not help the defense too much. Lots of three and outs and I mean ALOT! Second as the OP mentioned the players were put in position to make plays just failed to do so. Which made the difference in the Alabama game those long runs by henry he broke multiple tackles or the defenders just missed nothing the DC can do about that. All in all im excited to see what his defense will look like with a little more speed. I like that the OP mentioned the 6x4 area covered, very good point!
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[video=youtube;3VUPQ8LUk9g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VUPQ8LUk9g[/video]

PS: Great job by the OP breaking down MSU's defense under Diaz.
 
Great work, OP. Thanks.

I'm interested to learn about the benefits of this cover-6 that you mentioned. I don't think it's very commonly run. The only example off the top of my head that runs that coverage is Gary Patterson at TCU.

I can't wait to see an attacking Miami defense again. I watched some MSU games too after Diaz was hired. I think that his defense will see a major boost from getting better athletes than he had at MSU. Let's not forget that MSU is the SEC equivalent of NC State, or worse. They get nowhere near the top athletes in their own conference, division, or even own state.
 
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