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A Few Guys Arguing Non-Stop [F/K/A "Let’s check on Lane Kiffen"]

crossover22[]_[] said:
I think its been said but why alot of us wantes kiffin is that he gives you a Xs and Os advantage with his offense.

Shannon, golden, richt, manny, mario. None of those coaches have had that. Mario is by far the best recruiter of that group and will stack more talent. Which miami needs.

The same way JJ gave us a advantage with his defense. Lane would do for the offense. No im not calling kiffin jimmy johnson or putting them in the same league. Just stating we havent had that.

South Florida kids would thrive in a lane offense and miami football would be fun again.
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That would be great for us if he actually provided that X and O advantage. But that’s what we’ve been arguing about for the past month. He hasn’t shown any tactical advantages against mediocre teams.
 
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SayWhat said:
I wouldn't judge anyone on their recruiting at Ole Miss. It's literally the last place one would want to go in the SEC along with Vandy and it's state rival Miss State. Going head to head against any other SEC school, they're supposed to lose that match-up. You could maybe throw S Carolina into the mix. He doesn't have the NIL we have or those other schools have either.
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I'm just going to focus on this bullcrap.

"Literally the last place one would want to go"...oh, but then you throw in Vandy. And Mississippi State. Oh, and South Carolina too. But if you were HONEST, you would also say Kentucky and Mizzou and Arkansas. Which is half of the SEC.

Meaning, with just a basic level of competence, Ole Miss is capable of being MID in the SEC. I haven't gone insane, I'm not saying they will catch Alabama or Georgia any time soon. But EVERY OTHER TEAM in the SEC has had struggles. Has posted sub-.500 records RECENTLY. Even SEC "bluebloods" like Florida and Tennessee and LSU and Auburn have **** the bed RECENTLY.

Instead, you choose to play this surrender monkey game, where you want to tout Lane's coaching/recruiting out one side of your mouth, while pre-excusing all of his losses because poor, poor Ole Miss is just too overmatched to ever beat anyone else in the SEC except for Vandy.

And nobody forced Lane to take the Ole Miss job.

And nobody prevented him from moving on to Auburn a few weeks ago.

So make your choice. Either Lane is some great coaching savant who will improve whatever team he coaches...or Lane has taken a job where he can never be successful.

But I'm tired of the hypocritical bullcrap from you and other Kiffin ***********.
 
SayWhat said:
Oh, so Ole Miss didn't increase his pay to keep him as Auburn came calling. Wasn't Ole Miss supposed to be a rehab job, that's what everyone said here. It was a step up from his previous gig and it's landed him some offers elsewhere. Auburn was a lateral move with unrealistic expectations. He wisely passed.

Nice try, but stick to Twitter.
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What? So even though Ole Miss was "literally" the worst job in the SEC (your words, not mine, then you added Vandy), now Lane didn't take a better job "because money"? So if FAU had offered to pay him 8 million a year, he would not have left for Ole Miss? And wasn't this the same guy making PUBLIC STATEMENTS about how he would take any "fair offer" to come to Miami?

And let's not pretend like Auburn is a "lateral move", unless you are using the ridiculous crossover22 "only wins matter" single metric. How many actual (AP/UPI/ESPN) national championships has Ole Miss won? Particularly since they started letting black athletes play the sport? How about Auburn?

"Wisely passed". Hilarious.

PS, the State of Mississippi has a limit on how much coaches can be paid, but continue to tell us how Ole Miss outbid Auburn for Lane's services...
 
SayWhat said:
Still would've taken Lane over Mario. That really eats at some apparently.
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Why would that "eat at some"? The Mario supporters won. Mario was hired. Lane was never even interviewed. Why would anyone care that YOU preferred Lane?

You really need to look in the mirror. It's the Lane Train dopes who are constantly attacking everyone else but Lane.

The only one being eaten up is you. And your Kiffin Kocksucker buddies.
 
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WanderFranco said:
That would be great for us if he actually provided that X and O advantage. But that’s what we’ve been arguing about for the past month. He hasn’t shown any tactical advantages against mediocre teams.
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Teams lose man. Like you said yesterday. Ole miss beat lsu 2 seasons ago. Thats a huge deal. How many wins in the past 10 years does ole miss have over lsu.
 
crossover22[]_[] said:
i believe there are plenty of NFL players on our roster. We were a top 15 talented team last year so yes plenty will be drafted. Not to say many will be early picks.

I dont think the talent was at miami level but i do believe it was enough to beat mtsu, pitt, and duke.
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That last sentence is the absolute proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

"Talent"...and "heart"...and "laziness"...and "effort"...are completely different words for a reason.

Nobody has ever argued that Miami didn't have the talent. All the other player attributes? Different story.

That's why we will have anywhere from 15-25 "talented" players going elsewhere, so they can continue to be lazy and give minimal effort somewhere else.

I realize that everything you know about football comes from board or computer games where you just put two rosters next to each other, and the "more talented" roster is supposed to win every time. But real life doesn't work that way.
 
WanderFranco said:
Mario had a collapse? He finished a season with 5 losses in 6 games in year 3?
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He'll try to describe the 2 losses to Utah, when his entire team knew he was leaving for Miami, as some sort of "collapse", while trying to act like the Ole Miss loss to Texas Tech is a big nothing, because it was a meaningless bowl game.

Yes, motivation matters. And both Oregon (at the end of Mario's tenure) and Ole Miss (at the end of this season) lost motivation.

But no matter what, he's gonna "Blame Mario".
 
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crossover22[]_[] said:
Teams lose man. Like you said yesterday. Ole miss beat lsu 2 seasons ago. Thats a huge deal. How many wins in the past 10 years does ole miss have over lsu.
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So if “teams lose” and poor Lane Kiffin can’t overcome that with his coaching prowess, why do we want him so bad?
 
Funny how when Mario lost three games, two of those to the PAC 12 champ, we didn’t hear that “teams lose, man”. It was all about his coaching.

Lane goes 1-5 to end the season? “Teams lose, man”.
 
razrcane said:
If you are only using his time at ole miss (3 most recent years out of his entire career) then it can be argued his recruiting has been avg if you don't take into account the portal. I just think only using the most recent 3 years is very limiting when there is much more information/data out there. It would be like only using marios first year here to say he is a bum.

And it's not semanrics when you define a term. It's the literal definition of what he is doing.
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No. Stop.

I'm not "only using his time at Ole Miss" to judge his recruiting.

I am pointing out that you can't "explain away" his last 4 recruiting classes by telling me about what he did 15 years ago.

I am pointing out that this genius "Portal Strategery" is only one year old and is the product of failing to sign as many HS/JC recruits as nearly every other SEC team.

I am pointing out that if a guy is such a great recruiter (as the *********** claim), then he wouldn't be "bottom-three-in-the-SEC" year after year.

That's all. I'm not picking-and-choosing time periods. I'm not discounting his good periods or magnifying his bad periods. I'm just pointing out that something has changed, and maybe it's Lane's laziness. Maybe the SEC is too hard for him. I don't know exactly what it is, but I can observe that he has signed fewer high school recruits year-over-year. That shouldn't be a disputable fact, it's right there in writing.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
That last sentence is the absolute proof that you don't know what you are talking about.

"Talent"...and "heart"...and "laziness"...and "effort"...are completely different words for a reason.

Nobody has ever argued that Miami didn't have the talent. All the other player attributes? Different story.

That's why we will have anywhere from 15-25 "talented" players going elsewhere, so they can continue to be lazy and give minimal effort somewhere else.

I realize that everything you know about football comes from board or computer games where you just put two rosters next to each other, and the "more talented" roster is supposed to win every time. But real life doesn't work that way.
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Hahahahaha.

Golden the cloud all over again. Excuses. Our players dont have heart. Beta *** excuses.


Its a coaches job to get stuff out of his players. Period.
 
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WanderFranco said:
Funny how when Mario lost three games, two of those to the PAC 12 champ, we didn’t hear that “teams lose, man”. It was all about his coaching.

Lane goes 1-5 to end the season? “Teams lose, man”.
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One is at oregon.

The other ole miss.


Exactly the same. Come on dude. Be better.
 
WanderFranco said:
So if “teams lose” and poor Lane Kiffin can’t overcome that with his coaching prowess, why do we want him so bad?
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Because miami is a giant step up from ole miss. Has more talent. Has a 10 times easier path to the playoffs.

Winning 10 at ole miss is way more impressive than 12 at oregon. It just is.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
In a year when Utah wins the Pac-12? Yes, they are the same.
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How many titles does utah have?
 
WanderFranco said:
Well, I have five to put up. And three of them are bad. You have three, and only one is bad. Mario was Miami’s coach when Oregon played Oklahoma.
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Yes, but he was being kind and generous by not listing the Oklahoma game...

Hey, crossover...
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