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5-star CB Marshall has UM in top 7, talks Junior Day visit

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As expected. We've known for months now that the staff had little to no shot at any of the Palmetto kids. Now if we put together a good season maybe we can land this guy or some other top CB but as it stands today and most likely the rest of the offseason we have no shot with the Palmetto kids or any top CB really.

Yes the staff(Rumph) needs to do better but I don't think it mattered who's the CB coach at this point. The Palmetto kids aren't feeling us and the only way to have a shot( still a longshot at that) at landing any of the is to have a great season.
 
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The thing is IMO both the schools producing the two top 10 CBs do nothing but bust it's crazy. I will say at least they sell it good enough that kid gets payed up front and then doesn't perform to get a second contract.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
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Coincidental that that’s how long we’ve been mediocre. Coaching changes, despite what another poster says, or new staff can make a difference. Look at Garin Justice and Ed Reed. Go get a likable, talented CB coach. Rumph was supposed to be that guy with the Heritage pull but flailed on every major kid from that school. Hire some Palmetto connects with pull. I know Diaz is crafty and sees the angles. He needs to find a way to succeed at making inroads with Palmetto and retain these difference makers, if in fact these kids ARE difference makers.
 
MrMachete said:
If UF keeps developing first round CBs/DBs and we keep producing 5-7 round guys and undrafted free agents, we’re going to keep losing these battles more often than not.

Easy sale.
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I don’t think that development is the issue. They have had better talent coming through the door than we have had at that position.
 
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bmorecane said:
I don’t think that development is the issue. They have had better talent coming through the door than we have had at that position.
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You think our coaching over the last 15 years has had schemes to put guys in a position to succeed and has maximized/developed talent?
 
It's been a forgone conclusion he was going to UF since last year.

"bUt wHaT aBoUt tAe WiLliAmS?!?!?" This isn't anywhere close to the same situation as Tae's.

Marshall been locked in with UF for months now.
 
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bmorecane said:
Coincidental that that’s how long we’ve been mediocre. Coaching changes, despite what another poster says, or new staff can make a difference. Look at Garin Justice and Ed Reed. Go get a likable, talented CB coach. Rumph was supposed to be that guy with the Heritage pull but flailed on every major kid from that school. Hire some Palmetto connects with pull. I know Diaz is crafty and sees the angles. He needs to find a way to succeed at making inroads with Palmetto and retain these difference makers, if in fact these kids ARE difference makers.
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No ****. Hence why I've been trying to tell you guys for years to recalibrate your expectations. Miami may catch lightning in a bottle here and there, because even the 2nd rate SFL kids are still pretty good, so if you can hit on a few of them, you can get players (check the draft record recently, for example), and the ACC Coastal is stinky buttcheese, but some of you think we should have this football factory that churns out first-rounders and championship contenders year after year after year.

Aside from the budget coaching, which is a thing but best served for another thread, what I described above will NEVER happen with the recruiting being the way it is today. You can't have all these close-to-can't-miss prospects leaving and expect to have a sustainable monster. You know who has the sustainable monsters? The programs we're losing these kids to.

It's not a secret, or even complicated. If you want to pay what the bag schools pay, you can get a lot of these kids to stay home, and you can be a football factory. If you don't, then you have to be happy with the occasional special season but most of the time being maybe above average to pretty good. Basically a 9 win team that has the occasional spike. That's all you're getting with what we pay. And I seriously doubt that's going to change, because the bags aren't going to get any heavier.
 
bmorecane said:
I don’t think that development is the issue. They have had better talent coming through the door than we have had at that position.
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Bro take the blinders off. Go back and take a look at the last 3 drafts. No chaser. Look at ALL the schools who produced top 1-3 round picks at DB. ****, take notice of the COASTAL teams. No excuses. Just facts.

We are sub par in development. Facts.
 
Temple, UVA, South Dakota **** State - the list goes on. Schools like these producing top tier NFL talent has nothing to do with bags, man.

DEVELOP THE TALENT you have on an elite level and you’ll attract top tier talent as a result. It’s simple. Gimmicky schemes and Twitter propaganda ain’t gonna cut it.
 
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MrMachete said:
If UF keeps developing first round CBs/DBs and we keep producing 5-7 round guys and undrafted free agents, we’re going to keep losing these battles more often than not.
Easy sale.
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Developing? The db coach that Henderson commited to bounced a few days after he committed. Development is easy when you drop bags for a few 6’2 4.3 guys every year. Okuda at osu didn’t need a lot of development. Stingley at LSU was benching dudes the day he showed up on campus. Bama has failed to “develop” Jobe’s old *** but developed Minkah? Minkah was a day one pick after his senior film came out. Got to Bama and Said “get out of my seat”.
Bag these kids, then win games, then you get the Juice to walk into any campus and have dudes praying for a commitable offer.
It’s a formula that’s worked everywhere. Worked for saban at LSU and bama. Worked for jimbo at fspoo.
Almost worked for ole miss (got caught) and likely going to work again now that they hired every dirty coach imaginable. Definitely worked for dabo when he struck gold with Watson. Worked for Auburn when they dropped a hefty on cam newton.
Bags aren’t the answer to everything but they can definitely provide the spark that starts a fire.
 
TOcane said:
The thing is IMO both the schools producing the two top 10 CBs do nothing but bust it's crazy. I will say at least they sell it good enough that kid gets payed up front and then doesn't perform to get a second contract.
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These kids don't care about the bust. They care about that couple million signing bonus. Trying to get to a second contract is on the player, the school is out of it at that point.
 
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