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2024 5* DL Justin Scott visiting this weekend [commits to OSU then flips to Miami!]

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mossmadness said:
This is also why you absolutely cannot take 3* project QBs.

Recruiting is about momentum. Perception becomes reality.

When you take nobodies at the most important position on the football field, you’ve completely stalled momentum. It’s something that now has to be overcome.

And yeah, maybe you can overcome it and get momentum going despite that. But why even put yourself in that spot?

QBs commit early every recruiting cycle. They are the **** propaganda piece that sets the tone for the summer cycle.

You absolutely cannot have the first major shot every recruiting cycle be a 3* project.
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Exactly. The highest-paid coaches in the country who've already made CFB playoff appearances are recruiting QB's in a different stratosphere than our $80 million coach, which is bad enough if you look at it in a vacuum but is so much worse for anyone who saw the bigger picture all along. Coming off a 5-7 season where we trotted out a prehistoric offense and landed a really good class that lacked a premier QB, following that up by only landing another unheralded QB failed to move the needle at all at a time when we desperately needed a recruiting boost much more than many realized or were willing to admit.

- Kirby landed the #1 overall recruit and QB in Dylan Raiola this year.
- Saban has 5* QB Julian Sayin committed this year after landing a Top 100 overall recruit at the position last year in Eli Holstein.
- Day stuffed Mario in a locker for Air Noland in the spring.
[BGCOLOR=initial]- Riley landed 5* QB Malachi Nelson in last year's class as the eventual successor to Caleb Williams.[/BGCOLOR]
- Dabo landed a Top 100 overall QB in high 4* Christopher Vizzina last year.

Of course this doesn't just impact WR recruiting, but what are our chances of flipping Jeremiah Smith from OSU if all we have to sell to him is a pitch of "we'll grab a mystery QB from the portal, so don't worry" and Judd Anderson? There seems to be split opinions regarding our chances with 5* WR Ryan Wingo come December, but we're competing against a pair of big money programs in UGA (Beck, Vandagriff, Raiola) and Texas (Murphy and Manning) with loaded QB rooms. Good luck there.

Maybe now some who've buried their heads in the sand will look outside of the Miami bubble and realize that landing mid 3* QB's in back-to-back cycles is not how any serious program recruits the most important position in the sport, which should have been a massive warning sign all along. If we weren't willing to "overspend," as some put it, for Nico Iamaleava last year (we reportedly came in 2nd) or Air Noland this year (we reportedly came in 2nd), why were some presenting a narrative that we'd land the best DL class in the country across the board knowing full well those bidding wars are no less competitive than the ones for premier QB's?
 
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01Canes said:
Exactly. The highest-paid coaches in the country who've already made CFB playoff appearances are recruiting QB's in a different stratosphere than our $80 million coach, which is bad enough if you look at it in a vacuum but is so much worse for anyone who saw the bigger picture all along. Coming off a 5-7 season where we trotted out a prehistoric offense and landed a really good class that lacked a premier QB, following that up by only landing another unheralded QB failed to move the needle at all at a time when we desperately needed a recruiting boost much more than many realized or were willing to admit.

- Kirby landed the #1 overall recruit and QB in Dylan Raiola this year.
- Saban has 5* QB Julian Sayin committed this year after landing a Top 100 overall recruit at the position last year in Eli Holstein.
- Day stuffed Mario in a locker for Air Noland in the spring.
[BGCOLOR=initial]- Riley landed 5* QB Malachi Nelson in last year's class as the eventual successor to Caleb Williams.[/BGCOLOR]
- Dabo landed a Top 100 overall QB in high 4* Christopher Vizzina last year.

Of course this doesn't just impact WR recruiting, but what are our chances of flipping Jeremiah Smith from OSU if all we have to sell to him is a pitch of "we'll grab a mystery QB from the portal, so don't worry" and Judd Anderson? There seems to be split opinions regarding our chances with 5* WR Ryan Wingo come December, but we're competing against a pair of big money programs in UGA (Beck, Vandagriff, Raiola) and Texas (Murphy and Manning) with loaded QB rooms. Good luck there.

Maybe now some who've buried their heads in the sand will look outside of the Miami bubble and realize that landing mid 3* QB's in back-to-back cycles is not how any serious program recruits the most important position in the sport, which should have been a massive warning sign all along. If we weren't willing to "overspend," as some put it, for Nico Iamaleava last year (we reportedly came in 2nd) or Air Noland this year (we reportedly came in 2nd), why were some presenting a narrative that we'd land the best DL class in the country across the board knowing full well those bidding wars are no less competitive than the ones for premier QB's?
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100% agree. And that doesn’t mean Emory can’t turn out to be a good QB. Maybe we hit on an eval just like he did with Justin Herbert.

But at some point you have to land an elite QB. We know he can do it - he did it with Ty Thompson, the #7 QB and #40 overall recruit in 2021.
 
gogeta4 said:
They better call up Booker Pickett son as well cause Stewart definately aint coming here. (dmv link with Chase Young selling OSU)
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Chase Young? I haven’t paid attention much but isn’t that guy a colossal bust so far?
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
100% agree. And that doesn’t mean Emory can’t turn out to be a good QB. Maybe we hit on an eval just like he did with Justin Herbert.

But at some point you have to land an elite QB. We know he can do it - he did it with Ty Thompson, the #7 QB and #40 overall recruit in 2021.
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True. We're either going to need Emory or Judd to far exceed expectations for this to work out or we're going to have to spend out the *** for a top-tier portal QB, if one becomes available, and then finally land a premier QB recruit in '25.

Mario's QB recruiting was the biggest concern many, including myself, had when he was first hired but for entirely different reasons than what we've seen from him so far at Miami. Like you said, he's landed top-rated QB's before like Thompson, but his issue at Oregon was he landed blue-chip QB's who stunk out loud. Then last season happens and the word was that Noland was the only blue-chip QB who even gave Mario the time of day, which has led to Judd being called QB1.

I assume money and last year's disaster are much larger factors than anything in regards to what's happening with this class. The overall impact on the rest of the class of only landing mid 3* QB's in back-to-back years can be tough to tangibly quantify. It's not like an elite receiver like Drelon Miller, for example, is going to come out and say we didn't end up in his Top 3 because our QB room looks shaky as ****. But if we had landed Noland a couple months back, at least that would've represented a new vision of the future for our offense before the season starts. And it would've been a much-needed victory over a program in OSU that's outright kicking our *** up and down the trail.
 
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Maybe I’ve missed it because I haven’t been on the board as much but certain insiders have been noticeably quiet for the past 2 months…I took that as a sign even when others were saying June could be the best recruiting month in Miami history.

Get the season started, pray we start off fast and can somehow salvage a class like in 2022
 
RVACane said:
I actually know a little about the paying part via a connection. I don’t know what the story with Scott is as in his situation I feel like it’s something else.

I know we’re not doing enough to get the kids we targeted and lost and the gator has…. And that’s money unless Mario all of a sudden doesn’t know how to recruit which I don’t buy and if we are paying and still not getting our targets then we’re even more ****ed, which brings me back to Scott. There’s too many excuses on every whiff. We’ve put DLs in the league recently. We’ve beaten schools like that for players.

People are making excuses. Realistically, either the money isn’t enough or our guys can’t close on who they need to, neither of which bodes well for success.
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Do you believe we have the financial resources to go after the top tier player or have our booster/NIL folks gotten cold feet after the 5-7 season
 
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mossmadness said:
This is also why you absolutely cannot take 3* project QBs.

Recruiting is about momentum. Perception becomes reality.

When you take nobodies at the most important position on the football field, you’ve completely stalled momentum. It’s something that now has to be overcome.

And yeah, maybe you can overcome it and get momentum going despite that. But why even put yourself in that spot?

QBs commit early every recruiting cycle. They are the **** propaganda piece that sets the tone for the summer cycle.

You absolutely cannot have the first major shot every recruiting cycle be a 3* project.
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A defensive tackle commit from Chicago has absolutely nothing to do with a QB commit from Georgia. This is a stretch.

Ohio State is beating us for DL because they win double-digit games every year and send defensive linemen to the first round.
 
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