He landed 2 5* in a 5-7 environment last year, in arguably the ugliest season/environment I have seen from the Canes in 20 years (as you pointed out). This is an ignorant take in June.I will do the same with recruiting.
I'm not going to look at Cristobals history and project out the season at 1-0. That's dumb. Each season is different. And if you want an honest assessment, his track record is that he's established himself as a terrible game day coach so unless he has a massive talent advantage, no game is going to be projected as a likely win (and even then it's doubtful).
Each recruiting cycle is also different. Last year Cristobal was brand new to the program, recruits were generally excited (except for QBs and WRs that didn't think much of his offenses at Oregon). This cycle he has to overcome the stigma of the worst season in almost two decades. He had a historically bad offense. WRs are looking at the QB situation and know TVD will he be gone. People are hoping that we can get a top transfer QB. Well, Cristobals track record for transfer QBs is not great.
Meanwhile, a rival up the road annihilated us on national TV, won 10 games, and is being mentioned as a dark horse playoff contender. Most analysts and fans are expecting UM to finish 7-5 or 8-4 if we catch a few breaks. That would be embarrassing for year 2. Can he still land 5 stars in that environment? I hope so. However, at the moment the answer is no. When that changes we can discuss changing expectations.
You've never criticized a college/professional athlete or coach?
what exactly makes you think he can't land a 5*? he landed a commitment from Cormani in the middle of the disaster season and Samson AFTER the season... and held on to Mauigoa the whole time...I will do the same with recruiting.
I'm not going to look at Cristobals history and project out the season at 1-0. That's dumb. Each season is different. And if you want an honest assessment, his track record is that he's established himself as a terrible game day coach so unless he has a massive talent advantage, no game is going to be projected as a likely win (and even then it's doubtful).
Each recruiting cycle is also different. Last year Cristobal was brand new to the program, recruits were generally excited (except for QBs and WRs that didn't think much of his offenses at Oregon). This cycle he has to overcome the stigma of the worst season in almost two decades. He had a historically bad offense. WRs are looking at the QB situation and know TVD will he be gone. People are hoping that we can get a top transfer QB. Well, Cristobals track record for transfer QBs is not great.
Meanwhile, a rival up the road annihilated us on national TV, won 10 games, and is being mentioned as a dark horse playoff contender. Most analysts and fans are expecting UM to finish 7-5 or 8-4 if we catch a few breaks. Can he still land 5 stars in that environment? I hope so. However, at the moment the answer is no. When that changes we can discuss changing expectations.
are quiet.
Obviously we don’t see eye-to-eye on Mario, but I don’t think your quips are totally out of control. Some other points you and others make are filled with malice and seem perosnal for whatever reason (maybe its the uber-slurpers that do this), but here, You’re calling it like it is at this point - our class is full of three-stars that aren’t bonafide difference makers on paper, nor are anything to tout about/move the needle. Not many people can argue against this. I actually might go a step further and despite whatever write-ups or points people make, some of these guys are safety stashes that could bounce later in the year.I will do the same with recruiting.
I'm not going to look at Cristobals history and project out the season at 1-0. That's dumb. Each season is different. And if you want an honest assessment, his track record is that he's established himself as a terrible game day coach so unless he has a massive talent advantage, no game is going to be projected as a likely win (and even then it's doubtful).
Each recruiting cycle is also different. Last year Cristobal was brand new to the program, recruits were generally excited (except for QBs and WRs that didn't think much of his offenses at Oregon). This cycle he has to overcome the stigma of the worst season in almost two decades. He had a historically bad offense. WRs are looking at the QB situation and know TVD will he be gone. People are hoping that we can get a top transfer QB. Well, Cristobals track record for transfer QBs is not great.
Meanwhile, a rival up the road annihilated us on national TV, won 10 games, and is being mentioned as a dark horse playoff contender. Most analysts and fans are expecting UM to finish 7-5 or 8-4 if we catch a few breaks. That would be embarrassing for year 2. Can he still land 5 stars in that environment? I hope so. However, at the moment the answer is no. When that changes we can discuss changing expectations.
Your question was 5* players.. now it is DL specific. Kavon Thibedeoux says hello.. but he probably doesn't get to count for some reason.
And what did you think of that rival coach up the road after his first and second season?? Yiu probably thought he was trash then but now he’s on the cusp of a top 5 Preseason team as a contender for the playoff..i mean based on your logic that’s how it goes..but going by track record youd notice most new coaches culture and impact takes hold year 2 and on..last year was disastrous from every aspect including injury luck..everyone understands that..and i highly doubt that will happen again..why? Because of track record & the swift and decisive changes madeI will do the same with recruiting.
I'm not going to look at Cristobals history and project out the season at 1-0. That's dumb. Each season is different. And if you want an honest assessment, his track record is that he's established himself as a terrible game day coach so unless he has a massive talent advantage, no game is going to be projected as a likely win (and even then it's doubtful).
Each recruiting cycle is also different. Last year Cristobal was brand new to the program, recruits were generally excited (except for QBs and WRs that didn't think much of his offenses at Oregon). This cycle he has to overcome the stigma of the worst season in almost two decades. He had a historically bad offense. WRs are looking at the QB situation and know TVD will he be gone. People are hoping that we can get a top transfer QB. Well, Cristobals track record for transfer QBs is not great.
Meanwhile, a rival up the road annihilated us on national TV, won 10 games, and is being mentioned as a dark horse playoff contender. Most analysts and fans are expecting UM to finish 7-5 or 8-4 if we catch a few breaks. That would be embarrassing for year 2. Can he still land 5 stars in that environment? I hope so. However, at the moment the answer is no. When that changes we can discuss changing expectations.
Lol…3/5 of Oregon’s highest rated recruits all time were recruited by Mario and guess what…none of them OL. All 3 on defense. Also in his last full season at Oregon he had the #3 and #7 rated WRs committed.
He didn’t just recruit OL well last year. He did a **** good job across the board except for QB and outside WR.
Of course but from an optics and rankings perspective Emory was and is a project.
So he needs to follow up his 1st class with a top 7 2nd class yet we are currently in early June of his 2nd class…hmm ok
2013-2017 Oregon classes: 19 21 16 27 19 2018-2021: 13 7 12 6.