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Could anyone answer this: Considering the glaring need at S for the near future, would it be unthinkable to see Grace get a shot at some kind of SS role? Never seen him play, so that's why I ask and he might be a pure LB, but from what I read here, he looks like a more than legit athlete with smallish size for a LB... Could he have the tools to be a Safety for that class or is that crazy talk?
 
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What impresses me so much about Grace are his recognition skills. Between him and Tracy Howard, Cogdell is really churning out some savvy defenders.

There are a ton of similarities with Spence in high school. The quickness of his reads, his textbook tackling, his fluidity as an athlete. He has Spence's nose for the ball, too. Lots of INTS and fumble recoveries, including one in the end zone of the state title game (another parallel with Spence). The thing is, he's bigger and faster than Spence at the same age.
 
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Just like the Tampa thing D, I would love to see us stick around Miramar. Grace is more than worthy of an offer of course but thinking ahead never hurts.
 
JHallCanes said:
Just like the Tampa thing D, I would love to see us stick around Miramar. Grace is more than worthy of an offer of course but thinking ahead never hurts.
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+ a million couldn't agree more. Having Miramar as one of your go to schools would be great.
 
AllbouttheU said:
JHallCanes said:
Just like the Tampa thing D, I would love to see us stick around Miramar. Grace is more than worthy of an offer of course but thinking ahead never hurts.
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+ a million couldn't agree more. Having Miramar as one of your go to schools would be great.
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Just like Crawford last year. Not only taking a good player at a position of need but reopening the lines to Plant.

We discussed the ripple effects of last years class quite a bit around signing day. There was a lot going on there.
 
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LuCane said:
TheUnuffSAID said:
LuCane said:
Grace is a 6' 1" 215 4.5 'backer when he steps foot on campus as a True Frosh.

So, yeah.
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What was DP's weight coming in as a freshman? 220 right?
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DP's weight was about 215, IIRC. I've continuously said that one of the scariest things about Golden's recruiting is that it is well-known that they hesitated on DP. They were weary of his size. He's probably their best football player right now.

I'm hoping that was an exception and that they aren't consistently rigid about "requirements."
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The NFL, with all their combines, 4 years of ESPN and coaches tape, doctors and tests, still get it wrong about 50% of the time. College coaches taking 18 year old HS kids who are still growing? Every coach is going to make mistakes with recruiting every year, and every coach is going to get lucky/unlucky. I think its just really about being right more than your competition. You can condemn pretty much all of them with lists of their misses and mistakes.

I guess the end of the story is that they did take DP, and I would think they are **** sure happy that they did. We've taken some smaller LB's since then too, so I think its all good.
 
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LuCane said:
Grace is a 6' 1" 215 4.5 'backer when he steps foot on campus as a True Frosh.

So, yeah.
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kid is a LB all the way. he looks like a stud IMO and that 40 time is just fine. at his projected size in college, right around 4.5 is plenty fast
 
The opening is the same place Tacoi Sumler ran 4.24 last year. Anyone who has seen him play knows he isnt anywhere near that... Whitfield and Brazil are the only kids there who were probably legit 4.4 kids... The rest you will prob have to add some time to each to be close...
 
UMCANES777 said:
The opening is the same place Tacoi Sumler ran 4.24 last year. Anyone who has seen him play knows he isnt anywhere near that... Whitfield and Brazil are the only kids there who were probably legit 4.4 kids... The rest you will prob have to add some time to each to be close...
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Tacoi is a legit 4.3 guy. The opening uses laser times so it's pretty accurate
 
Peter Ariz said:
UMCANES777 said:
The opening is the same place Tacoi Sumler ran 4.24 last year. Anyone who has seen him play knows he isnt anywhere near that... Whitfield and Brazil are the only kids there who were probably legit 4.4 kids... The rest you will prob have to add some time to each to be close...
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Tacoi is a legit 4.3 guy. The opening uses laser times so it's pretty accurate
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Well when Mike Mitchell slipped out of the gate and still got a 4.39 it still makes some people skeptical.
 
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"A forty time doesn't tell you how fast a player is in a game."

--------Bill Walsh
 
Peter Ariz said:
UMCANES777 said:
The opening is the same place Tacoi Sumler ran 4.24 last year. Anyone who has seen him play knows he isnt anywhere near that... Whitfield and Brazil are the only kids there who were probably legit 4.4 kids... The rest you will prob have to add some time to each to be close...
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Tacoi is a legit 4.3 guy. The opening uses laser times so it's pretty accurate
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My boy AlexCane is not impressed.
 
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Peter Ariz said:
UMCANES777 said:
The opening is the same place Tacoi Sumler ran 4.24 last year. Anyone who has seen him play knows he isnt anywhere near that... Whitfield and Brazil are the only kids there who were probably legit 4.4 kids... The rest you will prob have to add some time to each to be close...
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Tacoi is a legit 4.3 guy. The opening uses laser times so it's pretty accurate
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Tacoi finished 16th out of 16 people in his 100m state regional his senior year with a 100m time of 11.93, dead last is hard to do if you are a legit 4.24 guy lol... He was often ran down in highschool as well... The opening had Patrick Peterson running like 4.69... It's far from accurate imo... The way they shiffle kids through there probably leads to the times being off a bit... Nobody there this year besides Whitfield and Brazil were capable of a legit 4.4... There is a reason kids get hyped as speed kids in highschool then cant live up to that in college when the athletes are all much much better...Places like the opening and other combines are the reason... Tacoi is probably a 4.55 kid on a real clock... Travis Benjamin ran a 4.62 at a one combine in highscool, he could jog a 4.62, these things are pretty much always off imo... There prob arent many highschool kids who are timing faster in highschool than Rainey, Miller, Benjamin, and guys like that who were just timed at the combine... Whitfield and Brazil would be the only ones close to their level because both have shown 10.3-10.4 speed in the 100m in highschool, which is usually the only legit timing system these kids ever run on in highschool, the combines sure arent legit...
 
Couple things on Tacoi... He did not play like a 4.3 guy... And on the track time stuff, he HATED, HATED, HATED track. The coaches forced him to do it, he didn't show up to practice, etc.
 
Peter Ariz said:
Couple things on Tacoi... He did not play like a 4.3 guy... And on the track time stuff, he HATED, HATED, HATED track. The coaches forced him to do it, he didn't show up to practice, etc.
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Pete,

I know he hated track, Dorsett didnt really care about track either, but he was a mid 10 guy when he ran.. I am just saying I think most of these combines are off on times... Thats all bro...
 
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