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22 point underdogs against FSU.

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No respect man, we need to show the world we belong. I expect us to play our best game of the year in Tally..
 
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For the last decade and truly this year we haven't shown any reason to respect us.

But the times our changing and the shock the world tour is already in full swing
 
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When asked what would happen if we pulled it out by the Hindu anchor on college football daily, Paul Finnebaum laughed in his face and asked if he was feeling well.
 
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Closing point spreads on every Miami-FSU game since 1985 with the winner in parenthesis.

2012: FSU by 21 (FSU 33-20)
2011: FSU by 11 (FSU 23-19)
2010: Miami by 5.5 (FSU 45-17)
2009: FSU by 6 (Miami 38-34)
2008: Miami by 1 (FSU 41-39)
2007: FSU by 5.5 (Miami 37-29)
2006: Miami by 4 (FSU 13-10)
2005: Miami by 3.5 (FSU 10-7)
2004: Pick (Miami 16-10)
2003 (bowl): FSU by 2 (Miami 16-14)
2003: FSU by 6.5 (Miami 22-14)
2002: Miami by 13.5 (Miami 28-27)
2001: Miami by 8 (Miami 49-27)
2000: FSU by 6.5 (Miami 27-24)
1999: FSU by 14 (FSU 31-21)
1998: FSU by 9.5 (FSU 26-14)
1997: FSU by 19.5 (FSU 47-0)
1996: FSU by 5 (FSU 34-16)
1995: FSU by 18 (FSU 41-17)
1994: FSU by 3.5 (Miami 34-20)
1993: FSU by 12.5 (FSU 28-10)
1992: Miami by 3 (Miami 19-16)
1991: FSU by 3 (Miami 17-16)
1990: Miami by 5.5 (Miami 31-22)
1989: FSU by 1 (FSU 24-10)
1988: FSU by 4 (Miami 31-0)
1987: Miami by 2.5 (Miami 26-25)
1986: Miami by 13.5 (Miami 41-23)
1985: Pick (Miami 35-27)
 
I think this is setting up to be a huge upset.

Nobody giving us a chance. You would think we are 4-3 the way the media is dogging us.

In 97 there was a good reason we were 19.5 dogs and rightfully so.

No way we should be 22 point dogs.

I think we are going to win this game. Tack it up and rub it my face if I'm wrong. Our kids are going to get up, they will be tired of hearing about how great FSU is all week. A lot of ESPN announcers are going to have some Splainin to do next week.
 
Jax Cane said:
In 97 there was a good reason we were 19.5 dogs and rightfully so.

No way we should be 22 point dogs.
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The 1997 pointspread was higher than -19.5. It closed -22 in most joints but as high as -23 at others. I remember it extremely well because I had Florida State -13.5 and -14 courtesy of early "Marquee Matchup" numbers from Caesar's Palace a month earlier. On game day I had to decide whether to let it ride or partially play a 9 point middle. Fortunately I knew we were pathetic so I kept all of it.

The majority of numbers in that post above are accurate but a few are a bit off. The only one I noticed that was wrong by several points was 1997. I have pointspread records and stats dating to 1978, thanks to books I saved from Gamblers Bookclub in Las Vegas. Both major online sources -- Mrnfl.com and theGoldSheet.com -- list the 1997 spread as Florida State -22.

I agree that the feel is completely different. In 1997 we were in freefall and any deficit seemed possible. In this case it's not impossible we're very competitive if everything broke perfectly.
 
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The 1995 spread looked low also so I checked. Gold Sheet lists the closing number as -20 and MrNFL has -21. It definitely was higher than -18.

Others seem a bit off based on my memory but I'm not going to check every one.
 
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Notsince1985 said:
Closing point spreads on every Miami-FSU game since 1985 with the winner in parenthesis.

2012: FSU by 21 (FSU 33-20)
2011: FSU by 11 (FSU 23-19)
2010: Miami by 5.5 (FSU 45-17)
2009: FSU by 6 (Miami 38-34)
2008: Miami by 1 (FSU 41-39)
2007: FSU by 5.5 (Miami 37-29)
2006: Miami by 4 (FSU 13-10)
2005: Miami by 3.5 (FSU 10-7)
2004: Pick (Miami 16-10)
2003 (bowl): FSU by 2 (Miami 16-14)
2003: FSU by 6.5 (Miami 22-14)
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So in the last 10 years the underdog has always covered. Good enough for me.
 
TheU1984 said:
****...FSU was a Td favorite in 03? We were undefeated going into that game.
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That was after Gore got hurt and we barely escaped West Virginia as a huge favorite. The line changed dramatically in one week. We were slight favorites in the preseason lines and then became a touchdown underdog due to the overreaction.

That type of thing is not unheard of. Oklahoma in 1987 went from favorite to a 6 point underdog at Nebraska after Jamelle Holloway got hurt and was replaced by Charles Thompson. The Sooners won handily, very similar to our game in '03, relying on defense.
 
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