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kedr said:
Arroyo, X and Rivers is a really nice trio of homegrown talent. Elijah and X are getting drafted of course and it seems Rivers is on his way as well, maybe somewhere in the round 5-7 range? While I don’t know if Jalen will be a decade-plus starter type, he’s got a ton of versatility and he seems like one of those players that can hang around for a nice long career.

X is going to produce and be reliable, I’m really interested to see his testing numbers.

Arroyo on the other hand, I can see him being a legit star. He’s got the upside to be one of the best TE’s in the league IMO. Watching his clips, if you didn’t know any better you would think he’s a WR. He also measured better than I expected - 6’4 1/2” 251 lbs and was top 3 in both arm length and wingspan at the position. The only thing that may hold him back in terms of draft slot is his medical history and that there was no production until this past season. But if he runs sub 4.6 and has great jumping/leaping numbers at the combine he may surpass Loveland as the #2 TE and sneak into the 1st round.
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Its only up from here with Arroyo...the one negative is injury history but then UM Pedigree at the position may be able to negate that somewhat. He played on a team that had 2 other nfl tes.

Hes definitely put himself in the top 5 at his position consideration and climbing and this is a deep te class.

**** be gone between 2-4 round
 
pacusmc said:
If Arroyo runs a 4.5 it’s first round unless you want to live in regret like as a GM/Scout.
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That would be an elite 40 and probably would give him a ton of hype with potential to go in the 1st round. But there's only been one draft where 3 tight ends have been drafted in the first (2017 with OJ Howard, Evan Engram, and David Njoku).

Warren is a sure fire lock as the 1st TE off the board. I don't think he'll pass Loveland up either.

I do think a good 40 time all but locks him up to be the 3rd TE selected but he probably goes early in the 2nd.

The one dream scenario could be the Eagles feeling like they have solid depth across just about all of their position rooms. Why not take a shot on a guy like Arroyo who has a realistic upside at being the best TE in the class but probably won't be available in the late 2nd.
 
Gi0logy said:
That would be an elite 40 and probably would give him a ton of hype with potential to go in the 1st round. But there's only been one draft where 3 tight ends have been drafted in the first (2017 with OJ Howard, Evan Engram, and David Njoku).

Warren is a sure fire lock as the 1st TE off the board. I don't think he'll pass Loveland up either.

I do think a good 40 time all but locks him up to be the 3rd TE selected but he probably goes early in the 2nd.

The one dream scenario could be the Eagles feeling like they have solid depth across just about all of their position rooms. Why not take a shot on a guy like Arroyo who has a realistic upside at being the best TE in the class but probably won't be available in the late 2nd.
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Someone will get a steal in Arroyo.
 
Gi0logy said:
That would be an elite 40 and probably would give him a ton of hype with potential to go in the 1st round. But there's only been one draft where 3 tight ends have been drafted in the first (2017 with OJ Howard, Evan Engram, and David Njoku).

Warren is a sure fire lock as the 1st TE off the board. I don't think he'll pass Loveland up either.

I do think a good 40 time all but locks him up to be the 3rd TE selected but he probably goes early in the 2nd.

The one dream scenario could be the Eagles feeling like they have solid depth across just about all of their position rooms. Why not take a shot on a guy like Arroyo who has a realistic upside at being the best TE in the class but probably won't be available in the late 2nd.
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Arroyo is better Han Njoku imo
 
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gogeta4 said:
When we recruited this kid we all said tes arent supposed to move in n out of cuts like he does....only the elite pass catchers at tes do....

the crazy thing is...he aint a pu$$y like Mike Gisecki n other receiving tes ..elijah aint afraid to mix it up blocking.
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Tough year to move up the TE board.
Fannin, Loveland and Warren have the hype. I hope he runs well in Indy.
 
I think Arroyo's injury history is the only thing that would stop him from surpassing everyone, but Warren. I expected him to make a big jump this week. It has been a long time since I attended a Senior Bowl, but I have attended quite a few. Hoping are Canes make a good showing out there.
 
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gogeta4 said:
Its only up from here with Arroyo...the one negative is injury history but then UM Pedigree at the position may be able to negate that somewhat. He played on a team that had 2 other nfl tes.

Hes definitely put himself in the top 5 at his position consideration and climbing and this is a deep te class.

**** be gone between 2-4 round
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His Combine testing will be nuts... He ran by everyone today.
 
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