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ROTFLOL at UMs "Very Good Defense last yr"ok boomer
Gave up....
27 Duke
30 FIU
28 GT
42 VT
28 UNC......Lol...
ROTFLOL at UMs "Very Good Defense last yr"ok boomer
I’m not a fan of manny. Unc raped us early but we’ve never seen this defense with an offense that can move the ball. These kids go into games knowing the offense sucksROTFLOL at UMs "Very Good Defense last yr"
Gave up....
27 Duke
30 FIU
28 GT
42 VT
28 UNC......Lol...
The 02 Defense lost alot of talent from the previous yr....There were worrisome signs throughout the yr...This response is exactly what I expected. You fail to grasp even the most basic elements of evaluating performance.
1) You don't understand the broader context. College football has changed. The average team scored ~30 PPG last year. It's not the 1960s. So we had only 1 game last year where our defense gave up more points than average. (Ideally we would make this comparison on a team by team basis, vs compared to all of college football, but I'm investing enough time in talking to an idiot on the internet as it is.)
2) You don't understand what the right metrics are. Offense and special teams have a huge impact on points allowed. Yards, yards per play, and the advanced stats are necessary in order to tell the complete story. For example, in the VT game, we only gave up ~330 yards. Our defense certainly didn't play great in that game, but the offense's 5 or 6 turnovers had a lot to do with the 42 points allowed.
3) You fail to look at the overall body of work. This is unbelievably basic, but I'll spell it out. You can't look at only the worst performances (which weren't all that bad, as per points 1 and 2 above). But we held UF, UVA, FSU, and other teams well below their scoring (and yard) averages.
The 2002 Hurricanes defense gave up 45 points to VT. So I guess by your estimation that defense sucked, too.
To be fair, that VT team was a top 20 team. You are talking about Duke who went 5-7, FIU who is FIU, UNC who had a true freshman QB in his second start, and a decent VT team, excluding the GT game where the defense only gave up 14 points. However, this is not us playing in the Big 12, Big 10, or SEC. These are some awful teams we are talking about.This response is exactly what I expected. You fail to grasp even the most basic elements of evaluating performance.
1) You don't understand the broader context. College football has changed. The average team scored ~30 PPG last year. It's not the 1960s. So we had only 1 game last year where our defense gave up more points than average. (Ideally we would make this comparison on a team by team basis, vs compared to all of college football, but I'm investing enough time in talking to an idiot on the internet as it is.)
2) You don't understand what the right metrics are. Offense and special teams have a huge impact on points allowed. Yards, yards per play, and the advanced stats are necessary in order to tell the complete story. For example, in the VT game, we only gave up ~330 yards. Our defense certainly didn't play great in that game, but the offense's 5 or 6 turnovers had a lot to do with the 42 points allowed.
3) You fail to look at the overall body of work. This is unbelievably basic, but I'll spell it out. You can't look at only the worst performances (which weren't all that bad, as per points 1 and 2 above). But we held UF, UVA, FSU, and other teams well below their scoring (and yard) averages.
The 2002 Hurricanes defense gave up 45 points to VT. So I guess by your estimation that defense sucked, too.
FSU gameThe 02 Defense lost alot of talent from the previous yr....There were worrisome signs throughout the yr...
Got me in that one, not too shabby of numbers. I just have never thought of him as anything special although I won't lie I was hoping the Dolphins drafted him back then.60 tds and 7000 rushing yards in 9 seasons is garbage? What's your definition of not garbage?
At least you admitted it. I respect you for that. And he was in Nola all those years in a pass heavy offense with Brees so putting up those numbers there is pretty darn good.Got me in that one, not too shabby of numbers. I just have never thought of him as anything special although I won't lie I was hoping the Dolphins drafted him back then.
This is the problem with Miami. We're too worried about what players do in the NFL than how they perform in college. Yeah, maybe Bama's players don't amount to much in the NFL, but they sure do max out their potential in college. You know, where the University of Miami competes.ok that’s 4 guys you can name? Frank gore Andre Johnson Reggie Wayne Clinton Portis. Bama can’t touch what we did with pros.They have some of the most loaded recruiting classes year in and year out and their ratio is not great
Facts, he committed to Michigan without even visiting their campus. We good, we got Troutman.Sorry homie - no room
“Can you feel it, nothing can save ya
For this is the season of catching the vapors
And since I got time, what I'm gonna do
Is tell you how this spreaded throughout my crew“
Biz Markie
even STA catching the vapors
I’m not a fan of manny. Unc raped us early but we’ve never seen this defense with an offense that can move the ball. These kids go into games knowing the offense sucks
ROTFLOL at UMs "Very Good Defense last yr"
Gave up....
27 Duke
30 FIU
28 GT
42 VT
28 UNC......Lol...
You have to understand that I don’t think Troutman is getting dropped. But there has to be some insurance policies because recruiting is fluid and sometimes even your more solid commit conflict. Remember we thought Donald Harris was going to be the ambassador this class. If Jaden Hood wants in you have to tell them that we got spots filled. But you don’t lose contact with him because things can happen. Troutman film is legit for a linebacker in my opinion top 10 in the country type of legit.T2 gets that “open slot” if it’s there. Really like Hood, but Troutman is not a drop off and if we’re adding more, it’s elite.