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2020 CB De'Arre McDonald

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Good player from a very good HS program with probably the best coaching staff in the state or top 3 imo.

I haven’t seen him play since he was a junior but a really good and instinctual football player. Better than Marcus Clarke. Similar athlete that is bigger and already a better tackler. Made a couple huge interceptions when I saw him play.
 
skeeter said:
I disagree with that...I like em both ...And this kid's a take for sure. But Colson looks electric out there. Case to be made for both, but Colson has higher upside imo.
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I like both as well. This kid is bigger and a little more refined with certain things, definitely more physical.

Colson intrigues me for 2 reasons - his backpedal/hips look fantastic and he looks explosive on D as well as WR. So even if he's a project, bring him in and let him develop. We lack depth at both positions and he can fill a hole in either.
 
PSU Cane said:
I like both as well. This kid is bigger and a little more refined with certain things, definitely more physical.

Colson intrigues me for 2 reasons - his backpedal/hips look fantastic and he looks explosive on D as well as WR. So even if he's a project, bring him in and let him develop. We lack depth at both positions and he can fill a hole in either.
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A kid like Colson is someone who turns int into pick 6, although I agree not as refined and obviously not as big or physically strong...He has instincts, look at how he just kinda baits and breaks on the ball. Granted at those classes, the Mcdonald kid probably has the tougher comp. Wonder why Colson hasn't signed, not even a single 247 update since June? Maybe grades?
 
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Can someone get this to the staff, please. For the love of God lol. We need some MFs that KNOW how to play CB and can RUN. This is him. ****, take this kid AND the Colson kid. Both of these guys have a nice ceiling but I agree that this kid looks more ready to play CB.
 
skeeter said:
I disagree with that...I like em both ...And this kid's a take for sure. But Colson looks electric out there. Case to be made for both, but Colson has higher upside imo.
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Colson isn't even a Corner, he's a fast WR that they put at CB.

The two of them aren't in the same stratosphere in terms of actual cover ability.

Colson is a 1,000% guaranteed redshirt, McDonald can play as a TF. Big difference between the two.
 
PSU Cane said:
I like both as well. This kid is bigger and a little more refined with certain things, definitely more physical.

Colson intrigues me for 2 reasons - his backpedal/hips look fantastic and he looks explosive on D as well as WR. So even if he's a project, bring him in and let him develop. We lack depth at both positions and he can fill a hole in either.
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Colson is not playing as a TF.
 
Liberty City El said:
Colson isn't even a Corner, he's a fast WR that they put at CB.

The two of them aren't in the same stratosphere in terms of actual cover ability.

Colson is a 1,000% guaranteed redshirt, McDonald can play as a TF. Big difference between the two.
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Ya I don't care where he's played up to this point in his life...Obaviously I like the kid with great instincts and polish as well. Not against Mcdonald at all. But can't teach a lot what Colson has and I'll take my chance he learns quickly. Lot of CB play WR in HS and vice versa...That's what the ATH position is for.

10.5 doesn't grow on trees and although I'll acknowledge he's raw...He looks like a natural to me. Siky smooth with the big wheels to fall back on.
 
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PSU Cane said:
No, i wouldn't expect him to.

But we have 6 CBs and 7 WRs. That's it. We start losing kids for any reason and it gets dicey. We played a walk-on LB last year. Miami....where LBs litter the history books.
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The three people in charge of getting linebackers here are manure patkuck and faker. You do the math
 
PSU Cane said:
No, i wouldn't expect him to.

But we have 6 CBs and 7 WRs. That's it. We start losing kids for any reason and it gets dicey. We played a walk-on LB last year. Miami....where LBs litter the history books.
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That's basically my point, we need immediate depth, not redshirt depth.

Marcus Clarke is already project, adding a kid like Colson is taking another project, I'd rather we get a kid who can play right away than a player that won't be ready as a TF.

It's been rumored that Bandy could consider declaring after the Bowl game, I'm not saying he is, but if he did we would be fcked. It's why I've been hoping we got a JUCO this class because we need playable available Corners bad for depth in the event of injury.

Taking a bunch of projects who need redshirts isn't a very smart thing to do considering how bad our numbers are right now.
 
Liberty City El said:
That's basically my point, we need immediate depth, not redshirt depth.

Marcus Clarke is already project, adding a kid like Colson is taking another project, I'd rather we get a kid who can play right away than a player that won't be ready as a TF.

It's been rumored that Bandy could consider declaring after the Bowl game, I'm not saying he is, but if he did we would be fcked. It's why I've been hoping we got a JUCO this class because we need playable available Corners bad for depth in the event of injury.

Taking a bunch of projects who need redshirts isn't a very smart thing to do considering how bad our numbers are right now.
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I get that but most kids signed. If we can find one more ready to play i'm on board. But at this point i'm looking for upside and physical traits with what's left, not immediate contributors with low ceilings. Our DB, LB and OL recruiting is bad right now.
 
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PSU Cane said:
I get that but most kids signed. If we can find one more ready to play i'm on board. But at this point i'm looking for upside and physical traits with what's left, not immediate contributors with low ceilings. Our DB, LB and OL recruiting is bad right now.
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McDonald doesn't have a low ceiling, he's a 88.4 rated CB, in order to get a 4-star you have to be an 89 or up, he's literally 6 tenths of a point from a 4-star, in fact he was actually a 4-star earlier in the year before they dropped him a bit.

McDonald is a very good physical corner with ball skills & good speed, he's not as fast as Colson, but he's decidedly better at literally everything you need a CB to do AND can play right away lol.

Colson is just fast with not much else, he's not depth because he's going to have to redshirt next year to get bigger & actually learn how to play CB in our system.

**** I would take both if we could, but if we had to chose one give me the high 3-star boarder line 4-star from a very good HS program that plays tough comp & is the bigger, stronger, ballhawk with better coverage ability over the kid that's a low 3-star that doesn't really have anything in his repertoire besides speed.
 
Liberty City El said:
McDonald doesn't have a low ceiling, he's a 88.4 rated CB, in order to get a 4-star you have to be an 89 or up, he's literally 6 tenths of a point from a 4-star, in fact he was actually a 4-star earlier in the year before they dropped him a bit.

McDonald is a very good physical corner with ball skills & good speed, he's not as fast as Colson, but he's decidedly better at literally everything you need a CB to do AND can play right away lol.

Colson is just fast with not much else, he's not depth because he's going to have to redshirt next year to get bigger & actually learn how to play CB in our system.

**** I would take both if we could, but if we had to chose one give me the high 3-star boarder line 4-star from a very good HS program that plays tough comp & is the bigger, stronger, ballhawk with better coverage ability over the kid that's a low 3-star that doesn't really have anything in his repertoire besides speed.
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I can get behind that.

But give me both. We need bodies at both positions and only signed 18 thus far (19 if Willie signs), so we have at least 6 more spots open.

I'd rather have a kid with potential than a mediocre 1 year rental. I only like portal players who are high probability starters (KJ, Bubba, etc), have more than 1 year left, or are a QB (which is always a risk if he hasn't played yet).
 
Swampcity said:
The number one rule is "recruit talent". I don't see a special talent.
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IF you only want to go after kids with special talent that haven't already shown no interest, I have news for you. We would not sign another player the cycle
 
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Liberty City El said:
McDonald doesn't have a low ceiling, he's a 88.4 rated CB, in order to get a 4-star you have to be an 89 or up, he's literally 6 tenths of a point from a 4-star, in fact he was actually a 4-star earlier in the year before they dropped him a bit.

McDonald is a very good physical corner with ball skills & good speed, he's not as fast as Colson, but he's decidedly better at literally everything you need a CB to do AND can play right away lol.

Colson is just fast with not much else, he's not depth because he's going to have to redshirt next year to get bigger & actually learn how to play CB in our system.

**** I would take both if we could, but if we had to chose one give me the high 3-star boarder line 4-star from a very good HS program that plays tough comp & is the bigger, stronger, ballhawk with better coverage ability over the kid that's a low 3-star that doesn't really have anything in his repertoire besides speed.
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Is the staff on or aware of McDonald ? I’ve been out of the loop last couple days
 
Very good find.. maybe we can return the favor for branch. Send anyone but rumph to get him
 
Swampcity said:
There are a few more athletes that remain. Did you ever hear of Sam Shields?
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Shields was a 4 satr WR who busted at that position and was converted to CB as a senior. At this point we are looking to fill out a class, most 4 and 5 star guys are zeroed in on their top schools.
 
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