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bobbo31 said:
WTF are you talking about? Coach L had no control of what the NCAA or FBI does regarding his program, he has total control of who he targets and if he will target more recruits to fill scholarships.

The ******* NCAA and FBI ****ed us last year, so what...does that mean you just lie down and cry and not do the best you can and salvage whatever season you could have had? No. We had every opportunity to salvage last year by adding a couple grad transfers, he chose not to. Texas Tech made the final with 2 grad transfers playing key roles.

You sound like a millennial who just graduated from an Ivy league school who believes it is his right to have a 6 figure a year job. But instead of working his way up to that level he'd rather blame the student debt he has and everyone else.
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Bringing in the wrong guys can hurt you in many ways. Grad transfers want to play... you can't lie to them to get them to sit on the bench for a season just in case there is a once in a decade roster disaster. Bad attitudes create cancers that destroy team dynamics.
 
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bobbo31 said:
WTF are you talking about? Coach L had no control of what the NCAA or FBI does regarding his program, he has total control of who he targets and if he will target more recruits to fill scholarships.

The ******* NCAA and FBI ****ed us last year, so what...does that mean you just lie down and cry and not do the best you can and salvage whatever season you could have had? No. We had every opportunity to salvage last year by adding a couple grad transfers, he chose not to. Texas Tech made the final with 2 grad transfers playing key roles.

You sound like a millennial who just graduated from an Ivy league school who believes it is his right to have a 6 figure a year job. But instead of working his way up to that level he'd rather blame the student debt he has and everyone else.
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No, you don't "lie down". You do a great coaching job and have the team maximize its talent level. A 75 Kenpom rating is proof that he did that, because that was not the 75th most talented team in the country last year. In fact, it was probably the least talented team in the ACC. A lesser coach would've had Miami ranked 97, 101, 115, 127, or 174 - the rankings of other teams in the conference.

You want more proof that he's a great coach? What is the ONE thing that Miami could not afford to do last year? The answer is commit fouls. With only 7 healthy scholarship players, committing fouls would mean certain defeat. Miami finished second in the country in fewest fouls committed. And that's with having Ebuka Izundu as the only big!

These are Izundu's fouls committed per 40 during his 4 years here: 8.6, 7.2, 6.5, and 4.5, sequentially. Heck, forget about the fouls and just look at Izundu overall: he averaged 11 and 8 last year. When he played as a freshman, did you think there was any chance he would do that one day?

Every coach has their strengths and weaknesses. L's strengths are coaching and player development. He's also proven to be a very good recruiter. No, he's not great at managing scholarships #11-13. Fine. That's a great trade-off.
 
ALLoverCANE said:
No, you don't "lie down". You do a great coaching job and have the team maximize its talent level. A 75 Kenpom rating is proof that he did that, because that was not the 75th most talented team in the country last year. In fact, it was probably the least talented team in the ACC. A lesser coach would've had Miami ranked 97, 101, 115, 127, or 174 - the rankings of other teams in the conference.

You want more proof that he's a great coach? What is the ONE thing that Miami could not afford to do last year? The answer is commit fouls. With only 7 healthy scholarship players, committing fouls would mean certain defeat. Miami finished second in the country in fewest fouls committed. And that's with having Ebuka Izundu as the only big!

These are Izundu's fouls committed per 40 during his 4 years here: 8.6, 7.2, 6.5, and 4.5, sequentially. Heck, forget about the fouls and just look at Izundu overall: he averaged 11 and 8 last year. When he played as a freshman, did you think there was any chance he would do that one day?

Every coach has their strengths and weaknesses. L's strengths are coaching and player development. He's also proven to be a very good recruiter. No, he's not great at managing scholarships #11-13. Fine. That's a great trade-off.
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So what are we arguing about? He did an amazing job getting this team ready last year, something he has done his entire time here. The only time you could say you may have expected more was the 2017-18 season. With his ability to make the most of his talent average able bodies would have done wonders for this team last year. He had that opportunity with 2 scholarships left on the table going into the season.

I believe he has already said he will be using up all scholarships this coming season, essentially admitting last year may have been somewhat different had he gone in that direction.
 
AmherstCane said:
Bringing in the wrong guys can hurt you in many ways. Grad transfers want to play... you can't lie to them to get them to sit on the bench for a season just in case there is a once in a decade roster disaster. Bad attitudes create cancers that destroy team dynamics.
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What makes you think that grad transfers wouldn't have played last year even if Wilson, Huell, and Gak played last year. Gak wasn't ready to play last year. Wilson wasn't a proven commodity. So that left us with Lykes, Lawrence, Huell, DJ, and Zach Johnson as proven top flight players. IF we had so much talent coming back and there wasn't playing time to be had then maybe Little and all the other recruits decided not to come here because they were afraid of the competition and not the FBI and NCAA probe.
 
Da_Lucky_One said:
Let's get back to the title of this thread. Harlond Beverly has committed and Tristan Enaruna visits on April 24th. Things are looking a lot better in Coral Gables for the basketball team.

13 scholarship players is the goal.
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If only.

Larranaga said, ideally, he’d like to carry a 12-man roster with three players in each class. As it stands now, including Beverly, UM would have one senior, four juniors, one sophomore and three freshmen.
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https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article229287274.html
 
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IncaneInTheBrain said:
If only.



https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article229287274.html
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Not that it matters but Barry Jackson said...

“The UM men’s basketball team has five scholarships to give out this offseason, and their preference would be to add two high school players, two grad transfers and one transfer who would sit out a year. But that’s a flexible plan and UM will take the best players available.”

www.miamiherald.com

Draft analyst assesses UM’s class. And updates on receivers and basketball recruiting

NFL Draft analyst Tony Pauline said he expects Miami Hurricanes’ defensive linemen Gerald Willis and Joe Jackson to go late in the second round or the third round in this month’s NFL Draft, but there are concerns with both.
www.miamiherald.com www.miamiherald.com

This was before we got Beverly and had 8 players on scholarship for next season.

I think the allocation above is ideal given our roster going into next season.
 
Some questions on Tristan:

1. What is his height? I’ve seen everything from 6’7 to 6’10.

2. Does he project more as a 3, 4 or stretch 4?

3. Is he the type of player who would benefit from a redshirt?
 
Consigliere said:
Some questions on Tristan:

1. What is his height? I’ve seen everything from 6’7 to 6’10.

2. Does he project more as a 3, 4 or stretch 4?

3. Is he the type of player who would benefit from a redshirt?
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Enaruna is reportedly 6'9.

From Fansided:
"An incredibly versatile athlete, Enaruna brings a well-rounded game to the table. In addition to boasting plenty of height, he is an extremely smooth athlete with the ability to play multiple positions on both ends of the floor. He has a steady 3-point stroke and his handle is also improving to go with strong finishing. ... he looks the part of a budding superstar at the college level.

Due to his size, skill, and athleticism, Enaruna fits the modern game extremely well and should be an immediate impact player at whichever program he chooses. All three of the schools left on his list represent potentially great fits for the young star and it will be interesting to see which pitch turns out to be the best.

Enaruna also would not be the first highly-rated 2019 recruit to join the Hurricanes should he make that decision. Miami has already landed three top-155 players from the class and they could continue shooting up the rankings with another commitment. As of right now, Miami’s class is ranked at No. 25 in the nation with all players looking like at least future rotation pieces. Harlond Beverly recently joined the group and Enaruna could be next.

Should Enaruna elect to join the Hurricanes, their 2019 recruiting class would be quite special (the class would shoot (from 25 to No. 14, in fact). In my opinion, the idea of this class growing together could be the main pitch for the Hurricanes. Of the three schools left on Enaruna’s list, Miami owns the best current recruiting class (by far) and that could go a long way."
 
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hotshot said:
Enanruna is reportedly 6'9.

From Fansided:
"An incredibly versatile athlete, Enaruna brings a well-rounded game to the table. In addition to boasting plenty of height, he is an extremely smooth athlete with the ability to play multiple positions on both ends of the floor. He has a steady 3-point stroke and his handle is also improving to go with strong finishing. ... he looks the part of a budding superstar at the college level.

Due to his size, skill, and athleticism, Enaruna fits the modern game extremely well and should be an immediate impact player at whichever program he chooses. All three of the schools left on his list represent potentially great fits for the young star and it will be interesting to see which pitch turns out to be the best.

Enaruna also would not be the first highly-rated 2019 recruit to join the Hurricanes should he make that decision. Miami has already landed three top-155 players from the class and they could continue shooting up the rankings with another commitment. As of right now, Miami’s class is ranked at No. 25 in the nation with all players looking like at least future rotation pieces. Harlond Beverly recently joined the group and Enaruna could be next.

Should Enaruna elect to join the Hurricanes, their 2019 recruiting class would be quite special (the class would shoot (from 25 to No. 14, in fact). In my opinion, the idea of this class growing together could be the main pitch for the Hurricanes. Of the three schools left on Enaruna’s list, Miami owns the best current recruiting class (by far) and that could go a long way."
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To answer the original question, he appears to be a legit 6'8-6'9 and a 3/4 man in the modern college game. He's quite polished for his age - a lot of that is due to international competition - so I would expect him to come in and contribute right away.
 
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bobbo31 said:
What makes you think that grad transfers wouldn't have played last year even if Wilson, Huell, and Gak played last year. Gak wasn't ready to play last year. Wilson wasn't a proven commodity. So that left us with Lykes, Lawrence, Huell, DJ, and Zach Johnson as proven top flight players. IF we had so much talent coming back and there wasn't playing time to be had then maybe Little and all the other recruits decided not to come here because they were afraid of the competition and not the FBI and NCAA probe.
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Gak was coming along nicely when he was hurt. We also weren’t an attractive destination last year for transfers because of the combination of FBI-induced instability and a fairly strong anticipated starting 5. Depth is the hardest thing to get with grad transfers (who don’t want to spend their last year on the bench).

Lykes
Wilson/DJ
Amp/Johnson
Huell
Izundu

That was a strong lineup that would have taken a very good grad transfer to break into.
 
Feel for Coach L. He's never had the talent he needs to do something with this program. Even the kids he had at George Mason were better. The only exception was with Shane Larkin and company. That said, I blame Mark Emmert and the NCAA for most of this.
 
holycane said:
Feel for Coach L. He's never had the talent he needs to do something with this program. Even the kids he had at George Mason were better. The only exception was with Shane Larkin and company. That said, I blame Mark Emmert and the NCAA for most of this.
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What in the holy **** are you talking about?
Sheldon mcclellan
Angel Rodriguez
Davon Reed
Lonnie walker
Bruce brown
Dewan huell

I can go on and on, but Coach L has had way more talent here than he had at George mason.
 
Gables Canes said:
What in the holy **** are you talking about?
Sheldon mcclellan
Angel Rodriguez
Davon Reed
Lonnie walker
Bruce brown
Dewan huell

I can go on and on, but Coach L has had way more talent here than he had at George mason.
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What are YOU talking about? That's one NBA talent who played one year and was hurt part of it. Bruce brown may do some time in the league but it won't be that long
 
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Juancane said:
What are YOU talking about? That's one NBA talent who played one year and was hurt part of it. Bruce brown may do some time in the league but it won't be that long
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And who the heck did George mason have on their roster that was any better?
 
bobbo31 said:
What makes you think that grad transfers wouldn't have played last year even if Wilson, Huell, and Gak played last year. Gak wasn't ready to play last year. Wilson wasn't a proven commodity. So that left us with Lykes, Lawrence, Huell, DJ, and Zach Johnson as proven top flight players. IF we had so much talent coming back and there wasn't playing time to be had then maybe Little and all the other recruits decided not to come here because they were afraid of the competition and not the FBI and NCAA probe.
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Moot point but, I expected Wilson to be as good as Zach turned out to be. He was just as much a "proven commodity" as Zach.
 
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Gables Canes said:
And who the heck did George mason have on their roster that was any better?
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I'm a big fan of what Coach L accomplished at Mason. And of the players on that particular team (they were much better than advertised). That team's core featured a very good 5th year senior, two other Seniors, a Junior, and two Sophs. Most (all?) were from the DC or Baltimore area so they were not intimidated playing the three Top 12 teams they had to beat to get to the Final Four (UNC, Florida, and UConn which were loaded with NBA talent), plus Michigan State and Wichita State.

Gables Cane is right about Coach definitely having had better talent here at the U, if you use the NBA as the yardstick. Butler, Lewis and Skinn were never gonna play in the NBA but ... they were, as seniors, arguably just as good -- and definitely more experienced than Lonnie or Bruce -- again, looking at them solely as college players.
 
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