2018 Carol City RB Davis talks Miami offer

[gcane44]

Anyone wanna provide some more context as to his stats from this past season?

The Miami Herald has the following stats:

123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs


I love his film but always want to know more. It seems he was splitting carries. 6.7 ypc is def nothing to sneeze at but, ideally, I like to see a freaky number closer to 10 ypc (see Lingard, Curry, Cook). With all the big runs broken on his highlight tape, I'm wondering if he was stuffed for no gain a lot as well, and if anyone has any insight

Can't say I watched every Carol City game, but his stats are nearly identical to Nayquan Wright's. Maybe it's something with the offense, because both guys are studs.

Posted this in another thread, but I agree, the stats don't adding up. Looking deeper, here's what I found:

2016:
Davis - 123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs
Wright - 112 rushes for 810 yards (7.2 ypc) and 8 TDs

Basically the same. Wright gets more carries, but it's a fairly even split. Wright missed 5 games near the end of the season.

2016 - The Good
Davis BLEW UP in the 5 games Wright missed. My guess is most of his highlights are from these 5 games.
Davis went 51 rushes for 446 yards (8.7 ypc) and 12 TDs

2016 - The Bad
Davis was bad in the 8 games Wright played.
Davis went 72 rushes for 374 yards (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD in those 8 games

Notably Bad games

Miami Central
Davis - 10 for 22 yds (2.2 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 12 for 132 yds (11.0 ypc) 2 TDs

MNW
Davis - 7 for 15 yds (2.1 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 11 for 117 yds (10.6 ypc) 1 TD

2015 - Really Bad
Davis - 69 for 299 yds (4.3 ypc) 3 TDs
Wright - 122 for 983 yds (8.1 ypc) 11 TD

There may very well be a reason for all this...but there's some red flags. Maybe Davis is the short yardage back, and when he got a chance to get all the carries he blew up. Both are big time recruits, but Wright is clearly the favorite for carries, and consistently puts up the better numbers. It looks like Davis isn't on the same level as Wright, and Davis did some padding of his stats against some bad teams.

BTW - I did the same stat comparison with Anthony McFarland vs. Lorenzo Harrison and saw a TON of red flags with McFarland. I'm pretty confident that McFarland, while a good RB, was overrated and won't end being a big loss.

Thanks for providing this

 

[deleted3746]

Maxpreps has stats for individual games but Carol City didnt update any stats for their kids.

 

[Peter Ariz]

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Cam Davis' mom is Flo-Rida's publicist from what I've heard. This tweet above his from former Canes walk-on RB Colin Alford, who is Flo's nephew.

 

[Peter Ariz]

As others have stated, Davis needs to be in the next class. Grown man.

 

[The Franchise]

Anyone wanna provide some more context as to his stats from this past season?

The Miami Herald has the following stats:

123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs


I love his film but always want to know more. It seems he was splitting carries. 6.7 ypc is def nothing to sneeze at but, ideally, I like to see a freaky number closer to 10 ypc (see Lingard, Curry, Cook). With all the big runs broken on his highlight tape, I'm wondering if he was stuffed for no gain a lot as well, and if anyone has any insight

Can't say I watched every Carol City game, but his stats are nearly identical to Nayquan Wright's. Maybe it's something with the offense, because both guys are studs.

Posted this in another thread, but I agree, the stats don't adding up. Looking deeper, here's what I found:

2016:
Davis - 123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs
Wright - 112 rushes for 810 yards (7.2 ypc) and 8 TDs

Basically the same. Wright gets more carries, but it's a fairly even split. Wright missed 5 games near the end of the season.

2016 - The Good
Davis BLEW UP in the 5 games Wright missed. My guess is most of his highlights are from these 5 games.
Davis went 51 rushes for 446 yards (8.7 ypc) and 12 TDs

2016 - The Bad
Davis was bad in the 8 games Wright played.
Davis went 72 rushes for 374 yards (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD in those 8 games

Notably Bad games

Miami Central
Davis - 10 for 22 yds (2.2 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 12 for 132 yds (11.0 ypc) 2 TDs

MNW
Davis - 7 for 15 yds (2.1 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 11 for 117 yds (10.6 ypc) 1 TD

2015 - Really Bad
Davis - 69 for 299 yds (4.3 ypc) 3 TDs
Wright - 122 for 983 yds (8.1 ypc) 11 TD

There may very well be a reason for all this...but there's some red flags. Maybe Davis is the short yardage back, and when he got a chance to get all the carries he blew up. Both are big time recruits, but Wright is clearly the favorite for carries, and consistently puts up the better numbers. It looks like Davis isn't on the same level as Wright, and Davis did some padding of his stats against some bad teams.

BTW - I did the same stat comparison with Anthony McFarland vs. Lorenzo Harrison and saw a TON of red flags with McFarland. I'm pretty confident that McFarland, while a good RB, was overrated and won't end being a big loss.

Very interesting breakdown.

 

[JHallCanes]

Elite Florida talent that has already de-committed?

Oh boy.

 

[DMoney]

Posted this in another thread, but I agree, the stats don't adding up. Looking deeper, here's what I found:

2016:
Davis - 123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs
Wright - 112 rushes for 810 yards (7.2 ypc) and 8 TDs

Basically the same. Wright gets more carries, but it's a fairly even split. Wright missed 5 games near the end of the season.

2016 - The Good
Davis BLEW UP in the 5 games Wright missed. My guess is most of his highlights are from these 5 games.
Davis went 51 rushes for 446 yards (8.7 ypc) and 12 TDs

2016 - The Bad
Davis was bad in the 8 games Wright played.
Davis went 72 rushes for 374 yards (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD in those 8 games

Notably Bad games

Miami Central
Davis - 10 for 22 yds (2.2 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 12 for 132 yds (11.0 ypc) 2 TDs

MNW
Davis - 7 for 15 yds (2.1 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 11 for 117 yds (10.6 ypc) 1 TD

2015 - Really Bad
Davis - 69 for 299 yds (4.3 ypc) 3 TDs
Wright - 122 for 983 yds (8.1 ypc) 11 TD

There may very well be a reason for all this...but there's some red flags. Maybe Davis is the short yardage back, and when he got a chance to get all the carries he blew up. Both are big time recruits, but Wright is clearly the favorite for carries, and consistently puts up the better numbers. It looks like Davis isn't on the same level as Wright, and Davis did some padding of his stats against some bad teams.

BTW - I did the same stat comparison with Anthony McFarland vs. Lorenzo Harrison and saw a TON of red flags with McFarland. I'm pretty confident that McFarland, while a good RB, was overrated and won't end being a big loss.

Thanks for this. Do you have the breakdown handy for the playoffs? I know Davis was blowing up during their state title run.

 

[User-4525]

Elite Florida talent that has already de-committed?

Oh boy.

:U5PyXda:

 

[LuCane]

That 11.06 is as a sophomore, correct?

 

[bshaw28]

Posted this in another thread, but I agree, the stats don't adding up. Looking deeper, here's what I found:

2016:
Davis - 123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs
Wright - 112 rushes for 810 yards (7.2 ypc) and 8 TDs

Basically the same. Wright gets more carries, but it's a fairly even split. Wright missed 5 games near the end of the season.

2016 - The Good
Davis BLEW UP in the 5 games Wright missed. My guess is most of his highlights are from these 5 games.
Davis went 51 rushes for 446 yards (8.7 ypc) and 12 TDs

2016 - The Bad
Davis was bad in the 8 games Wright played.
Davis went 72 rushes for 374 yards (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD in those 8 games

Notably Bad games

Miami Central
Davis - 10 for 22 yds (2.2 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 12 for 132 yds (11.0 ypc) 2 TDs

MNW
Davis - 7 for 15 yds (2.1 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 11 for 117 yds (10.6 ypc) 1 TD

2015 - Really Bad
Davis - 69 for 299 yds (4.3 ypc) 3 TDs
Wright - 122 for 983 yds (8.1 ypc) 11 TD

There may very well be a reason for all this...but there's some red flags. Maybe Davis is the short yardage back, and when he got a chance to get all the carries he blew up. Both are big time recruits, but Wright is clearly the favorite for carries, and consistently puts up the better numbers. It looks like Davis isn't on the same level as Wright, and Davis did some padding of his stats against some bad teams.

BTW - I did the same stat comparison with Anthony McFarland vs. Lorenzo Harrison and saw a TON of red flags with McFarland. I'm pretty confident that McFarland, while a good RB, was overrated and won't end being a big loss.

Thanks for this. Do you have the breakdown handy for the playoffs? I know Davis was blowing up during their state title run.

Here's the 2016 Carol City schedule:

Coral Gables Lost 13 - 16
Oxbridge Lost 7 - 14
Lakeland Won 38 - 7
Southridge Won 18 - 0
Miami Central Won 34 - 7
Norland Won 16 - 6
2Northwestern Lost 14 - 19
American Won 45 - 0
PLAYOFFS
Dillard Won 47 - 8
Northwestern Won 34 - 27
Daytona Mainland Won 33 - 7
Charlotte Won 39 - 0
Lake Gibson Won 14 - 6

I find this interesting - the bolded games are the 5 that Wright missed. 4 were in the playoffs. CC averaged 20 pts per game with Wright, then 40 pts per game without Wright. Wright comes back for the last game and CC puts up 14.

The offense seemed to be significantly better when Wright was out.

In the 5 playoffs Games:
Davis - 51 for 443 yds (8.7 ypc) 9 TDs

Terrence Henderson, who had no carries before Wright was out, also but up big numbers in the 5 games Wright missed:
Henderson - 35 for 283 yds (8.1 ypc) 5 TDs

Not sure what the takeaway here is. CC had 3 RB's that had pretty similar ypc numbers for the year. In re-watching their highlights, I like Davis better than Wright.

Hopefully someone who watched CC can give more insight.

 

[GeraltOfCaneia]

Since it seems like we won't be adding another RB to this class, barring a RB transferring in do we look to take 3 next class?

 

[Reshon52ap]

Anyone wanna provide some more context as to his stats from this past season?

The Miami Herald has the following stats:

123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs


I love his film but always want to know more. It seems he was splitting carries. 6.7 ypc is def nothing to sneeze at but, ideally, I like to see a freaky number closer to 10 ypc (see Lingard, Curry, Cook). With all the big runs broken on his highlight tape, I'm wondering if he was stuffed for no gain a lot as well, and if anyone has any insight

Can't say I watched every Carol City game, but his stats are nearly identical to Nayquan Wright's. Maybe it's something with the offense, because both guys are studs.

Posted this in another thread, but I agree, the stats don't adding up. Looking deeper, here's what I found:

2016:
Davis - 123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs
Wright - 112 rushes for 810 yards (7.2 ypc) and 8 TDs

Basically the same. Wright gets more carries, but it's a fairly even split. Wright missed 5 games near the end of the season.

2016 - The Good
Davis BLEW UP in the 5 games Wright missed. My guess is most of his highlights are from these 5 games.
Davis went 51 rushes for 446 yards (8.7 ypc) and 12 TDs

2016 - The Bad
Davis was bad in the 8 games Wright played.
Davis went 72 rushes for 374 yards (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD in those 8 games

Notably Bad games

Miami Central
Davis - 10 for 22 yds (2.2 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 12 for 132 yds (11.0 ypc) 2 TDs

MNW
Davis - 7 for 15 yds (2.1 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 11 for 117 yds (10.6 ypc) 1 TD

2015 - Really Bad
Davis - 69 for 299 yds (4.3 ypc) 3 TDs
Wright - 122 for 983 yds (8.1 ypc) 11 TD

There may very well be a reason for all this...but there's some red flags. Maybe Davis is the short yardage back, and when he got a chance to get all the carries he blew up. Both are big time recruits, but Wright is clearly the favorite for carries, and consistently puts up the better numbers. It looks like Davis isn't on the same level as Wright, and Davis did some padding of his stats against some bad teams.

BTW - I did the same stat comparison with Anthony McFarland vs. Lorenzo Harrison and saw a TON of red flags with McFarland. I'm pretty confident that McFarland, while a good RB, was overrated and won't end being a big loss.

Both davis & wright are really good backs, they play in the toughest class arguably in the country 6A football only guys who would have elite numbers are the dalvin cooks duke johnson type of backs (those two played in that division as well) all in all davis would be a great pickup!

 

[gcane44]

Both davis & wright are really good backs, they play in the toughest class arguably in the country 6A football only guys who would have elite numbers are the dalvin cooks duke johnson type of backs (those two played in that division as well) all in all davis would be a great pickup!

I agree that they look like really good prospects.

8A is actually the bigger/tougher class in Florida. Dalvin Cook (Central) played in 8A. I think Duke (Norland) played in 6A. Davis seems likehe'd be a great pickup, I just want to know as much about him as possible before I'm sure of anyhting. And you say the only type of back that would have elite numbers would be a Cook/Duke type, well that's what we need to go for and get -- an elite RB. That's what our main competitors are getting (have you seen Cam Akers?)

 

[Reshon52ap]

Both davis & wright are really good backs, they play in the toughest class arguably in the country 6A football only guys who would have elite numbers are the dalvin cooks duke johnson type of backs (those two played in that division as well) all in all davis would be a great pickup!

I agree that they look like really good prospects.

8A is actually the bigger/tougher class in Florida. Dalvin Cook (Central) played in 8A. I think Duke (Norland) played in 6A. Davis seems likehe'd be a great pickup, I just want to know as much about him as possible before I'm sure of anyhting. And you say the only type of back that would have elite numbers would be a Cook/Duke type, well that's what we need to go for and get -- an elite RB. That's what our main competitors are getting (have you seen Cam Akers?)

Central ,norland, carol city, northwestern, all in 6A it mightve been 8A & changed to 6A recently but those teams always been in the same class

 

[Reshon52ap]

Both davis & wright are really good backs, they play in the toughest class arguably in the country 6A football only guys who would have elite numbers are the dalvin cooks duke johnson type of backs (those two played in that division as well) all in all davis would be a great pickup!

I agree that they look like really good prospects.

8A is actually the bigger/tougher class in Florida. Dalvin Cook (Central) played in 8A. I think Duke (Norland) played in 6A. Davis seems likehe'd be a great pickup, I just want to know as much about him as possible before I'm sure of anyhting. And you say the only type of back that would have elite numbers would be a Cook/Duke type, well that's what we need to go for and get -- an elite RB. That's what our main competitors are getting (have you seen Cam Akers?)

Central ,norland, carol city, northwestern, all in 6A it mightve been 8A & changed to 6A recently but those teams always been in the same class

 

[gcane44]

Both davis & wright are really good backs, they play in the toughest class arguably in the country 6A football only guys who would have elite numbers are the dalvin cooks duke johnson type of backs (those two played in that division as well) all in all davis would be a great pickup!

I agree that they look like really good prospects.

8A is actually the bigger/tougher class in Florida. Dalvin Cook (Central) played in 8A. I think Duke (Norland) played in 6A. Davis seems likehe'd be a great pickup, I just want to know as much about him as possible before I'm sure of anyhting. And you say the only type of back that would have elite numbers would be a Cook/Duke type, well that's what we need to go for and get -- an elite RB. That's what our main competitors are getting (have you seen Cam Akers?)

Central ,norland, carol city, northwestern, all in 6A it mightve been 8A & changed to 6A recently but those teams always been in the same class

Seems there's been a lot of changing over the past few years, but it's not quite true that they've always been in the same class. For instance, when Duke was a senior, Norland won the 5A state title and Central won the 6A state title.

Regardless, it's big boy football in South Florida. Trust me, I get that. My point is we need the elite backs (i'm not commenting as to whether or not Davis is)

 

[chrisRMNU]

in track what is considered elite in 100M ?

Davis got like 4.55 - 4.6 speed?

11.06 is pretty good. under 11 and you are getting into elite territory, 10 and under is world class.

 

[gogeta4]

one of the first to bring him up on the board when every one was talking about Cook and the other young guys at rb.

This kid is a grown man...has 4.5 speed as well on that almost 200 pd frame. Lock that CC ZUU kid up...and shoot national or for Lingard.But Davis has been m guy for t2 years..Telly Lockett tried to sneak him out of here as a sophomore offering him at oregon state

 

[bshaw28]

Anyone wanna provide some more context as to his stats from this past season?

The Miami Herald has the following stats:

123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs


I love his film but always want to know more. It seems he was splitting carries. 6.7 ypc is def nothing to sneeze at but, ideally, I like to see a freaky number closer to 10 ypc (see Lingard, Curry, Cook). With all the big runs broken on his highlight tape, I'm wondering if he was stuffed for no gain a lot as well, and if anyone has any insight

Can't say I watched every Carol City game, but his stats are nearly identical to Nayquan Wright's. Maybe it's something with the offense, because both guys are studs.

Posted this in another thread, but I agree, the stats don't adding up. Looking deeper, here's what I found:

2016:
Davis - 123 rushes for 820 yards (6.7 ypc) and 13 TDs
Wright - 112 rushes for 810 yards (7.2 ypc) and 8 TDs

Basically the same. Wright gets more carries, but it's a fairly even split. Wright missed 5 games near the end of the season.

2016 - The Good
Davis BLEW UP in the 5 games Wright missed. My guess is most of his highlights are from these 5 games.
Davis went 51 rushes for 446 yards (8.7 ypc) and 12 TDs

2016 - The Bad
Davis was bad in the 8 games Wright played.
Davis went 72 rushes for 374 yards (5.1 ypc) and 1 TD in those 8 games

Notably Bad games

Miami Central
Davis - 10 for 22 yds (2.2 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 12 for 132 yds (11.0 ypc) 2 TDs

MNW
Davis - 7 for 15 yds (2.1 ypc) 0 TDs
Wright - 11 for 117 yds (10.6 ypc) 1 TD

2015 - Really Bad
Davis - 69 for 299 yds (4.3 ypc) 3 TDs
Wright - 122 for 983 yds (8.1 ypc) 11 TD

There may very well be a reason for all this...but there's some red flags. Maybe Davis is the short yardage back, and when he got a chance to get all the carries he blew up. Both are big time recruits, but Wright is clearly the favorite for carries, and consistently puts up the better numbers. It looks like Davis isn't on the same level as Wright, and Davis did some padding of his stats against some bad teams.

BTW - I did the same stat comparison with Anthony McFarland vs. Lorenzo Harrison and saw a TON of red flags with McFarland. I'm pretty confident that McFarland, while a good RB, was overrated and won't end being a big loss.

Both davis & wright are really good backs, they play in the toughest class arguably in the country 6A football only guys who would have elite numbers are the dalvin cooks duke johnson type of backs (those two played in that division as well) all in all davis would be a great pickup!

There are anomalies - but I've found the 2 stats that are best to look at for an RB are - YPC (Should be 8.0+ YPC), and TD's per attempt (They should be scoring a TD every 10 attempts).

If they're not at least close to them, it a red flag for me. The elite RB's shatter those. Duke was 10.1 ypc / TD every 7.1 att. Cook was 10.7 YPC, TD every 6.2 att