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One thing you all need to take into consideration is he is playing against a few College bound offensive linemen in that clip. STA always has a strong offensive line. They actually had one commit to Uconn today.
 
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What the deal with Bosa? Based on his highlight tape the kid is off the charts. Why do you think the staff never actively pursued him?
 
Thanks Lu please do not let these boards get filled with nasty back and forth arguments.

Brova!
 
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Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.
 
Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.

Thanks for bringing the FACTS once again Pete
 
What the deal with Bosa? Based on his highlight tape the kid is off the charts. Why do you think the staff never actively pursued him?

he had no interest.....

kid has always looked like that....

played with a better motor and strength than Jelani Hamilton.,.,,wanted the kid..but conceded he could care less about miami early on
 
Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.

I was thinking the same thing, as he's a 2014 recruit, with two more years at high school.

Maybe we should only look at 2014 recruits if they can realistically can be evaluated by NFL scouts as being NFL ready right now. Sure save us a lot of time.
 
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Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.

Thanks for bringing the FACTS once again Pete

It's not a FACT what he said. It was an opinion based on rational reasoning.

Valid made an opinion after watching clips too, so I don't think you can invalidate his opinion just because you disagree with him being able to come to one after watching highlights. If you disagree, then that's fine. But don't drag the guy through mud just cause you don't like his method of forming an opinion.
 
Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.

Thanks for bringing the FACTS once again Pete

It's not a FACT what he said. It was an opinion based on rational reasoning.

Valid made an opinion after watching clips too, so I don't think you can invalidate his opinion just because you disagree with him being able to come to one after watching highlights. If you disagree, then that's fine. But don't drag the guy through mud just cause you don't like his method of forming an opinion.


Motens family being shown around campus is a FACT.Moten receiving an offer is a FACT. Show me where I dragged anone through the mud? I asked a simple question. Where did I invalidate anyone's opinion in this thread? Please show me. Thanks. Bye.
 
Soph film is usually unimpressive, especially for linemen. That's close to fact. Compare Duke's Soph and Jr film or Jordan Cunningham's and you'll see that even skill position players make huge strides in 1 year. Even KC McDermott has unimpressive film (imo) but will probably be a 5* or close to it when it's all said and done. My computer struggles to play hudl film but from what I can tell Moten has an impressive body so there are definitely tools there to keep an eye on. I didn't see anything else to get excited about but I didn't see any glaring issues either, so I think Moten will develop into a fine prospect - likely Miami caliber.
 
Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.

Thanks for bringing the FACTS once again Pete

It's not a FACT what he said. It was an opinion based on rational reasoning.

Valid made an opinion after watching clips too, so I don't think you can invalidate his opinion just because you disagree with him being able to come to one after watching highlights. If you disagree, then that's fine. But don't drag the guy through mud just cause you don't like his method of forming an opinion.


Motens family being shown around campus is a FACT.Moten receiving an offer is a FACT. Show me where I dragged anone through the mud? I asked a simple question. Where did I invalidate anyone's opinion in this thread? Please show me. Thanks. Bye.


But anytime you "project" that the kid is still growing is NOT a fact. It's just an opinion. For all we know, the kid might have maxed out.

And as for you "dragging" a poster in the mud, why couldn't you just accept that he has an opinion instead of trying to break down and discount his observation?
 
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Another note ... Moten's family was being shown around at the camp he was at so the staff obviously thinks he's a player.

I would take caution about saying he will only be an "OK" college player because he still has 2 years of high school left and like I said, he is still growing.

Thanks for bringing the FACTS once again Pete

It's not a FACT what he said. It was an opinion based on rational reasoning.

Valid made an opinion after watching clips too, so I don't think you can invalidate his opinion just because you disagree with him being able to come to one after watching highlights. If you disagree, then that's fine. But don't drag the guy through mud just cause you don't like his method of forming an opinion.


Motens family being shown around campus is a FACT.Moten receiving an offer is a FACT. Show me where I dragged anone through the mud? I asked a simple question. Where did I invalidate anyone's opinion in this thread? Please show me. Thanks. Bye.


But anytime you "project" that the kid is still growing is NOT a fact. It's just an opinion. For all we know, the kid might have maxed out.

And as for you "dragging" a poster in the mud, why couldn't you just accept that he has an opinion instead of trying to break down and discount his observation?

Did I say Peter "projecting the kid growing is a fact". No I didn't. You just wrote "don't drag a guy through the mud". Once again, answer the question. WHERE HAVE I DONE THAT IN THIS THREAD? Where did I break down and discount his observation also lol? Please show me. I asked a simple question, all that was required was an answer. Once again how is that "dragging someone through the mud" like you said I did. PLEASE SHOW ME.
 
Thanks for bringing the FACTS once again Pete

It's not a FACT what he said. It was an opinion based on rational reasoning.

Valid made an opinion after watching clips too, so I don't think you can invalidate his opinion just because you disagree with him being able to come to one after watching highlights. If you disagree, then that's fine. But don't drag the guy through mud just cause you don't like his method of forming an opinion.


Motens family being shown around campus is a FACT.Moten receiving an offer is a FACT. Show me where I dragged anone through the mud? I asked a simple question. Where did I invalidate anyone's opinion in this thread? Please show me. Thanks. Bye.


But anytime you "project" that the kid is still growing is NOT a fact. It's just an opinion. For all we know, the kid might have maxed out.

And as for you "dragging" a poster in the mud, why couldn't you just accept that he has an opinion instead of trying to break down and discount his observation?

Did I say Peter "projecting the kid growing is a fact". No I didn't. You just wrote "don't drag a guy through the mud". Once again, answer the question. WHERE HAVE I DONE THAT IN THIS THREAD? Where did I break down and discount his observation also lol? Please show me. I asked a simple question, all that was required was an answer. Once again how is that "dragging someone through the mud" like you said I did. PLEASE SHOW ME.


This back-and-forth is pointless. All I'm getting at is respect another guy's opinion and stop trying to break him down. You can debate, but when you start questioning his credibility or the way he evaluates a kid, then that's just nonsense.

As for the "fact" crap. That's what you wrote. If you wanted to specify what exactly was a "fact," you should have done so. And this is my last response. Not worth it getting into a forum debate over petty crap.
 
It's not a FACT what he said. It was an opinion based on rational reasoning.

Valid made an opinion after watching clips too, so I don't think you can invalidate his opinion just because you disagree with him being able to come to one after watching highlights. If you disagree, then that's fine. But don't drag the guy through mud just cause you don't like his method of forming an opinion.


Motens family being shown around campus is a FACT.Moten receiving an offer is a FACT. Show me where I dragged anone through the mud? I asked a simple question. Where did I invalidate anyone's opinion in this thread? Please show me. Thanks. Bye.


But anytime you "project" that the kid is still growing is NOT a fact. It's just an opinion. For all we know, the kid might have maxed out.

And as for you "dragging" a poster in the mud, why couldn't you just accept that he has an opinion instead of trying to break down and discount his observation?

Did I say Peter "projecting the kid growing is a fact". No I didn't. You just wrote "don't drag a guy through the mud". Once again, answer the question. WHERE HAVE I DONE THAT IN THIS THREAD? Where did I break down and discount his observation also lol? Please show me. I asked a simple question, all that was required was an answer. Once again how is that "dragging someone through the mud" like you said I did. PLEASE SHOW ME.


This back-and-forth is pointless. All I'm getting at is respect another guy's opinion and stop trying to break him down. You can debate, but when you start questioning his credibility or the way he evaluates a kid, then that's just nonsense.

As for the "fact" crap. That's what you wrote. If you wanted to specify what exactly was a "fact," you should have done so. And this is my last response. Not worth it getting into a forum debate over petty crap.

Not once did you show me where I questions his credibility or the way he evaluates a kid. You canteen show me where I drug him through the mud according to you. Like I said, I asked a question. I asked you questions, and you can't answer them. End of story.
 
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Hey guys, we'd appreciate it if you quit hijacking the thread, and if you're going to do it, please do it elsewhere. Thanks.
 
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