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On the contrary to what most people think, I believe the Canes defense will be very much improved this year, and Once the likes of Chad Thomas, Moten and Kiy Hester arrive to provide some extra depth, it should start clicking. What's your opinion on where this defense ends up ranked?

I believe overall D will be ranked in the top 30.
With the Pass Defense ranked In the top 25.
 
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PalmBeachCane said:
On the contrary to what most people think, I believe the Canes defense will be very much improved this year, and Once the likes of Chad Thomas, Moten and Kiy Hester arrive to provide some extra depth, it should start clicking. What's your opinion on where this defense ends up ranked?

I believe overall D will be ranked in the top 30.
With the Pass Defense ranked In the top 25.
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Well.

It's not like we can get much worse. Statistically, you could be partially right. We may improve.

We might even move up in front of Tulsa, Western Kentucky, Buffalo, Northern Illinois, or even Memphis.

Nah. They're in the Top 50.
 
I think we are finally were we need to be for a top 30 defense everywhere but upfront. Our DBs are loaded and our LBs should be above average. Dline is just too big of a question mark to move us that much. Top 50 seems more likely but I think we will be a much more aggressive unit.
 
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I would say that too.

but our defense got worse as the year went on.

the freshmen/sophomores were supposed to get more experience. instead they got worse.

also, they noticeably "quit" on games. thought that only Shannon's team quit like that.




fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
 
For reference:

Teams that ranked top 50 in total defense: Buffalo, Penn State, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Marshall, Wake Forest and Oregon.

Teams that ranked top 30 in total defense: Georgia Tech, Baylor, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, USC, Florida

In those groupings of teams are programs that had real scholarship reductions in PSU and USC. There are also up-tempo teams that give the ball back to their opponents faster than we did in Oregon and Baylor. There are also teams who undoubtedly had less talent than their opponents in Syracuse, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State. And there's Florida whose offense was much worse than ours in executing.

And where did we fall last season? 89th. That's pathetic. There are no excuses for our defense to be that bad. None.

There are absolutely no excuses why we shouldn't have at worst a top 30 defense--other than our coaches being terrible at their jobs. For more reference, the 50th ranked D gave up 383 ypg. The 30th ranked D gave up 364 ypg. We gave up 426 ypg.

I went back to 1999 and Miami's worst ranked defense before Golden was 34th in 2000. Golden's best ranked D since he's been here was the 2011 defense that was ranked 45th.

Again, there is no ******* reason in his 4th year at Miami we shouldn't have at worst a 30th ranked defense. And that's lowering the ball to mid-major expectations.
 
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Players are in top 20 or so. Coaching is the question. Will they add or subtract to the natural talent and hard work of the players. This year will answer the question what the problem is-- talent or coaching?
 
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I don't see how Hester changes anything this year. Thomas, Wyche and Moten should help immediately.
 
RiDLer80 said:
For reference:

Teams that ranked top 50 in total defense: Buffalo, Penn State, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Marshall, Wake Forest and Oregon.

Teams that ranked top 30 in total defense: Georgia Tech, Baylor, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, USC, Florida

In those groupings of teams are programs that had real scholarship reductions in PSU and USC. There are also up-tempo teams that give the ball back to their opponents faster than we did in Oregon and Baylor. There are also teams who undoubtedly had less talent than their opponents in Syracuse, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State. And there's Florida whose offense was much worse than ours in executing.

And where did we fall last season? 89th. That's pathetic. There are no excuses for our defense to be that bad. None.

There are absolutely no excuses why we shouldn't have at worst a top 30 defense--other than our coaches being terrible at their jobs. For more reference, the 50th ranked D gave up 383 ypg. The 30th ranked D gave up 364 ypg. We gave up 426 ypg.

I went back to 1999 and Miami's worst ranked defense before Golden was 34th in 2000. Golden's best ranked D since he's ,been here was the 2011 defense that was ranked 45th.

Again, there is no ****ing reason in his 4th year at Miami we shouldn't have at worst a 30th ranked defense. And that's lowering the ball to mid-major expectations.
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The main thing I get from this post, the guy that mentored our coaches and was a sort of godfather of our defense, was fired from gt because he couldn't get the kids to execute that defense on the field. They hire another guy and get immediate results. Top 30 in year one. Sigh
 
Really see improvement in the Secondary and Linebacker corps and think we finally have great depth at those positions. Also a big fan of the potential/upside of the current crop of the DE's. What concerns me and influences how good this defense can be is our rush defense up the middle. I am not sure we have enough plus players at the DT position to stop rushing attacks and contain gaps up the middle. However, it looked like our defense in the spring was really quick to attack on runs to the boundaries so a Wyche, Moten, Jenkins or a Golden waive wire acquisition at the DT position could make a real difference in the fall.

The defense improving and becoming more stout would make a huge difference in how we can grow and bring along our new QB starter.
 
We'll be better, that's for sure. There's no more excuses. We're now fielding a unit full of kids that everybody in the country wanted.
 
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