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Kalihicane

Kalihicane

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Golden seems to be receiving a lot of heat from certain posters on the board why?

The 2012 season was BS
We should have been 9-3 with the #114 Ranked defense in the country.
If recruits can't realize that going 9-3 with #114 ranked defense is great then I don't know what can convince them.
All of the other team ranked at the bottom in total defense had terrible records to go all with it. Except the U. This makes the U special.

So I did some research looking at our defenses since 89'
I tried to find them all since 1980 but I could only find the rankings since 89'
The list is just total defense not scoring defense. Directly from the NCAA website.

1989: #8 Defense
Record: 11-1 National Champions

1990: #16 Defense
Record: 10-2

1991: #14 Defense
Record: 12-0 National Champions

1992: #8 Defense
Record: 11-1 Lost National Championship to Alabama

1993: #4 Defense
Record: 9-3

1994: #1 Defense
Record: 10-2

1995: #35 Defense
Record: 8-3

1996: #12 Defense
Record: 9-3

1997: #83 Defense
Record: 5-6

1998 #62 Defense
Record: 9-3

1999 #16 Defense
Record: 9-4

2000 #7 Defense
Record: 11-1

2001 #1 Defense
Record: 12-0 National Champions

2002 #8 Defense
Record: 12-1 Lost National Championship to Ohio State

2003 #3 Defense
Record: 11-2

2004 #26 Defense
Record: 9-3

2005 #3 Defense
Record: 9-3

2006 #5 Defense
Record: 7-6

2007 #32 Defense
Record: 5-7

2008 #25 Defense
Record: 7-6

2009 #26 Defense
Record: 9-4

2010 #17 Defense
Record: 7-6

2011 #47 Defense
Record: 6-6

2012 #114 Defense
Record: (9-3) 7-5

For the Golden haters.
ALL he did was take a team with some issues and turn them into ACC Coastal Champions.
ALL he did was have two solid recruiting classes in a row.
ALL he did was change the attitude and culture of the team surrounding the Shannon Mess.

Basically I'm saying the numbers don't lie. Even though we had a terrible defense we won games. The same can't be said for other teams at the bottom of the defensive rankings. Many of them didn't even have the option at a bowl game. This fact alone proves we're in great hands

Trust Al Golden

Question for the board where do you all think we will jump to in terms of total defense for 2013?
As the 1999 Defense showed you can make big strides in one season. They went from #63 to #16 thanks a big jump. How far will we jump this year?
 
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Being in the 100s isnt going to cut it.

The D last season gave up more yards than the offense gained and that is pathetic. The rush defense is what Im most concerned with. Giving up more than 200 YPG on the ground sucks *******. Id like to see that drop significantly.

And Kahuku Red Raiders >>> Farrington Governors
 
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Thread Killa said:
Being in the 100s isnt going to cut it.

The D last season gave up more yards than the offense gained and that is pathetic. The rush defense is what Im most concerned with. Giving up more than 200 YPG on the ground sucks *******. Id like to see that drop significantly.

And Kahuku Red Raiders >>> Farrington Governors
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Couldn't have said that better myself. Stop the run first!
I realistically think we could drop down to the 75-50 range this year.

and bradda those North Shore boys are good. I don't know what they feed the kids up there in Laie. LOL it's all good competition here
 
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The roster was such a mess and we lost so many important piece to stupidity going into '12 that I was willing to give a pass. There is no excuse for not having a top 40 defense and a top 15 offense next year. We should win 9-10 games at the very least and maybe 11 if we get lucky and play over our heads for a game or two.
 
If Porter stays healthy (big if) with Pierre continuing his play of the last 4 games, improved strength from our freshmen of last year that our now sophomores, 2 full years of U Tough program, I believe we should improve at least 60 spots from last year. With that and improved QB play, meaning better accuracy and consistency, this is a 9-10 win team.
 
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Consigliere said:
Total defense?
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Yes, we should improve in total defense by 60 spots. I know that there are aspects of the defense they could not employ because of the youth and inexperience on their two deep last year. We should expect some more aggressive looks and new wrinkles this year from them. I am still holding judgement on Coach D, as we do have a track record of him taking Temple to a top 20 overall defense in their final year. Again Temple was a top 20 defense in their final year there. And please do not give the tired "who were they playing argument" because the fact is that those same teams they were playing against were the same teams they couldn't stop before and were losing to their entire history.
 
Total defense is red herring. Keep points of the board i.e. Scoring D is what counts and REALLY matters.

Yards don't equal points, they can lead to points.
 
Consigliere said:
Total defense is red herring. Keep points of the board i.e. Scoring D is what counts and REALLY matters.

Yards don't equal points, they can lead to points.
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True, you can essentially give up less than 300 yards and still give up 28 points. But in general they tend to go hand in hand. If they are making the strides in giving up less yards, and thus getting off the field more, I believe it also translates in giving up less points, as it shows they are adapting to the schemes, applying them onto the field and are better overall. So in this case if they make those strides in total defense I believe it will also translate on the scoreboard.

The thing as far as making a giant leap into the very good category, because for me that leap I am expecting is still mediocre, but to leap into very good, we have to be top 25. Will depend on two things I believe, a quality DT after Porter and Pierre, and more importantly 2 quality pass rushers on the edge. Based on what we were told about McCord and where they wanted him to be, which it looks that way, don't be surprised if he takes a really big leap this year, after that though the question marks are even bigger, and unproven.
 
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I am not happy with the amount of yards that we give up but it is hard for me to get past the real issue the points. Sure a long drive or a lot of yards usually means a lot of points but they are not guaranteed. Stop the points, turn touchdown drives into FGs, make FG opportunities more difficult and the points will go down.
 
I guess it's a what came first thing chicken or the egg here. If they cut down on the yards allowed, then it should translate into less drives, and also in turn those drives they do have, less td's and more fg tries. Regardless considering how bad they were last year, the kind of jump we expect and hope for, should provide improvement in points allowed and yards allowed as well
 
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Fzac75 said:
I guess it's a what came first thing chicken or the egg here. If they cut down on the yards allowed, then it should translate into less drives, and also in turn those drives they do have, less td's and more fg tries. Regardless considering how bad they were last year, the kind of jump we expect and hope for, should provide improvement in points allowed and yards allowed as well
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It's not. Yards don't equal points. Stop the points, I don't care if we are last in total D as long as we're keeping the points off the board. Points are the real issue.
 
Consigliere said:
Fzac75 said:
I guess it's a what came first thing chicken or the egg here. If they cut down on the yards allowed, then it should translate into less drives, and also in turn those drives they do have, less td's and more fg tries. Regardless considering how bad they were last year, the kind of jump we expect and hope for, should provide improvement in points allowed and yards allowed as well
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It's not. Yards don't equal points. Stop the points, I don't care if we are last in total D as long as we're keeping the points off the board. Points are the real issue.
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Don't get me wrong I agree with you completely, I could care less if we give up 400 yards if we keep teams from scoring touchdowns. Just saying though that in general there is a correlation, if teams are not gaining yards, they are not in position to score is all I'm saying. I think the VA Tech game last year is a good example, they gave up yards but the damage on the scoreboard was minimal, as they held them to field goals for the most part.
 
For the sort of talent Miami has. the categories that will equate to success on D are as follows in order of importance

rush defense, takeaways, redzone defense, pass rush(sacks/hurries/knockdowns,etc)
 
Consigliere said:
Total defense is red herring. Keep points of the board i.e. Scoring D is what counts and REALLY matters.

Yards don't equal points, they can lead to points.
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You make this point every time a thread like this comes up. Not sure if it's what you are meaning to do, but it always comes across as if your saying being 116 in total D is fine as long as they aren't giving up points. You can't just wave the total D number off like that. If a D is giving up that many yards you can be pretty **** sure they are giving up a ton of points too. Our D was ranked 82 in scoring D, which is awful.
 
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