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Scary part is that they've made better moves than Syracuse and some other ACC schools. There's no way Syracuse should have settled on a career assistant, knowing full well that Boeheim ran the program into the ground late in his tenure.
Is it about results or process? The guy i replied to mentioned results — which we have zero of Lucas’ so far (as a HC…..) while we know a bunch about the programs and coaches he listed that he acts like are poverty programs who made some brilliant move hiring troubled or treading water HCs. The easiest comparison for our decision to hire Lucas will continue to be Quinn Snyder.
You mention processes and Rad did a great job here with his final 3. Who gives af about the what if game. The guy who hired Coach L isn’t here anymore! This is like the same **** with Cam Ward everybody on this board keeps running around saying. Yes we got lucky. The luck resides in reality. These what if scenarios are a bottomless pit of imaginary doom & gloom.
Trust the process is Al Golden slang. Now Katie Meir is a freak accident
Paul Dee isn’t even here anymore, but since you insist, his great decision was no-decision re: Leonard Hamilton. Another AD may have been quick to pull the trigger on a firing.Bruh our fanbase invented/remixed messaging planes for firing head coaches. No idea how you can say we don’t put pressure on people. I hated the Manny Diaz hire and wanted Mario from back then. Mark Richt felt the pressure and retired. Diaz was fired after three years.
Idc about the trauma in the past. This is also the basketball board. We made a basketball hire, and it was indeed a good one — “process wise.”
Sensing who is the right guy happens during interviews and research — which Lucas, Pitino, Quinn, and others went through. No clue whose agents Rad has talked to throughout this season. The point of the search is to find the man for the future. It should also be noted that Louisville has passed on hiring Richard Pitino three times in the last 5 years now.
We could’ve hired Mike Anderson who is one of the three head coaches (Izzo, Few) w/o a losing season. I doubt anyone wants him. Could’ve played it safe & called VCU’s head coach, Shaka Smart or Frank Martin. It’s possible those guys were interested, it’s possible we talked to them. Other names can be inserted, impossible to know from my pov.
I frankly believe that Coach L’s son should have been given strong consideration. He would have been a hire comparable to Kevin Young, although I’m sure some would find a way to hate on him.
I see a bunch of these other schools going through “irrational and nonsensical” processes by hiring the favorite/best assistant of their longtime coach — Duke, Syracuse, UNC, Ohio State, Villanova, etc. We’ll see what direction Virginia goes in.
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At least the majority of these players are out of eligibility
Need a former HC on staff. He wasn’t a bad HC at all
I'm going to delete the majority of your bloviating response.
It is about three things.
The standard, the process, and the results.
The standard is what do we need and what are we looking for. Given our past history (success with former head coaches Bill Foster, Leonard Hamilton, and Jim Larranaga; failure with former assistant coach Frank Haith), our conference (ACC) and recent success (Elite 8, Final 4), and requirements of the current rebuild (entire new staff, filling at least 10 spots on the roster). IF MIAMI IS TO DEVIATE FROM THIS STANDARD, THERE NEEDS TO BE A **** GOOD RATIONALE. An on-staff assistant who has been at UM for 10 or more years. Or an overqualified NBA/NCAA coach who might be looking for a fresh start/new challenge.
The process is how we do things. While I personally prefer a quieter job search, particularly when it takes place during the season, I understand that modern times might result in premature information leaks. But it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that publicizing names of candidates who are still playing games of importance, particularly in-conference, is going to be bad. There's a difference between leaking a lot of names to give a range of candidates...and allowing a name to be reported as the prohibitive favorite, particularly in February when his employer is likely to be playing into April.
Finally, the results should bear out the first two things. If you are "turned down" by numerous head coaches, then this makes a pivot to an assistant coach more palatable. But when an assistant coach with just a few years of experience becomes the prohibitive favorite early on, without even interviewing head coaches, then the results are much more problematic.
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Is it about results or process? The guy i replied to mentioned results — which we have zero of Lucas’ so far (as a HC…..) while we know a bunch about the programs and coaches he listed that he acts like are poverty programs who made some brilliant move hiring troubled or treading water HCs. The easiest comparison for our decision to hire Lucas will continue to be Quinn Snyder.
You mention processes and Rad did a great job here with his final 3. Who gives af about the what if game. The guy who hired Coach L isn’t here anymore! This is like the same **** with Cam Ward everybody on this board keeps running around saying. Yes we got lucky. The luck resides in reality. These what if scenarios are a bottomless pit of imaginary doom & gloom.
Trust the process is Al Golden slang. Now Katie Meir is a freak accident
Bruh our fanbase invented/remixed messaging planes for firing head coaches. No idea how you can say we don’t put pressure on people. I hated the Manny Diaz hire and wanted Mario from back then. Mark Richt felt the pressure and retired. Diaz was fired after three years.
Idc about the trauma in the past. This is also the basketball board. We made a basketball hire, and it was indeed a good one — “process wise.”
Sensing who is the right guy happens during interviews and research — which Lucas, Pitino, Quinn, and others went through. No clue whose agents Rad has talked to throughout this season. The point of the search is to find the man for the future. It should also be noted that Louisville has passed on hiring Richard Pitino three times in the last 5 years now.
We could’ve hired Mike Anderson who is one of the three head coaches (Izzo, Few) w/o a losing season. I doubt anyone wants him. Could’ve played it safe & called VCU’s head coach, Shaka Smart or Frank Martin. It’s possible those guys were interested, it’s possible we talked to them. Other names can be inserted, impossible to know from my pov.
I frankly believe that Coach L’s son should have been given strong consideration. He would have been a hire comparable to Kevin Young, although I’m sure some would find a way to hate on him.
I see a bunch of these other schools going through “irrational and nonsensical” processes by hiring the favorite/best assistant of their longtime coach — Duke, Syracuse, UNC, Ohio State, Villanova, etc. We’ll see what direction Virginia goes in.
Coach L’s intro to UM/hiring was facilitated by a booster.
I’ve been one of the biggest Coach L supporters on this board (and Jay didn’t want the job anyway)… but there’s no way Jay should have been given strong consideration.
We need a coach AND CEO for our basketball program. Just a coach isn’t enough because the support and resources have to be worked for here.
Lucas might be a brilliant young basketball mind… although there is insufficient evidence to make that assessment with any confidence. But there is ABSOLUTELY no evidence of his ability run/manage anything, let alone a massive operation like the entire basketball program (including staffing, fundraising, NIL, infrastructure building, etc.).
I'd be down for a UK reunion for Lucas, Flint, and Areziaga. I live in Eastern KY, and this place is full of UK fans and they all spoke pretty highly of all 3 of those guys as UK assistants. While Orlando wasn't a good HC at USF, the UK fans I've spoken to really liked him as a recruiter.
It really comes down to who Lucas gets to hire as assistants, for me. If he is surrounded by guys who can coach/recruit their butts off and have experience, I'm good. Would I have liked someone with HC experience versus Lucas as HC? Absolutely.
However, when it comes to coaching circles and paying attention to who's up and coming in CBB, you always should listen if they're coming from successful backgrounds like Texas/UK/Duke. Yes he's young at 36, but dude's been a trusted assistant at P4 programs since 2016. 8 seasons worth of experience in some bigtime programs, and he's gotten praise from his contemporaries as a defensive guru and as a recruiter. If we were gonna take a chance on an assistant from elsewhere as a first time HC, my top 3 would have included Lucas and the 2 assistants at UConn. We got Lucas.
I'm still in wait-and-see mode, though. There's valid reason for both worry and optimism.
No disagreement but, if Miami is going to start spending similarly to what is spent on football, I can also see the thought process of hiring a guy like Lucas who has navigated the high level NIL spenders in the past.
I'm really interested to see how the structure of all of this works out. Obviously he needs to find strong assistant coaches but the operation behind the scenes, such as a general manager for the basketball program, are equally as important especially right now.
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In no sport is coaching more overrated than modern day college basketball. It’s 90% recruiting. Unless you’re a complete moron and/or *******, you’ll generally win with better players and lose with worse.
I'd bet Flint will be on staff. He's currently a special assistant to Calipari at Arkansas so not even sure if he's on the bench there.
