CB Xavier Lucas is transferring to Miami

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CB Charles Brantley SR
CB OJ Frederique SO or Ethan O'Connor RSO
Nickle Zechariah Poyser RSO or Damari Brown RSO
SS Zaquan Patterson SO
FS Xavier Lucas SO

Secondary really starting to look good.
I agree 100%. Xavier Lucas was the piece of the puzzle I was waiting for as this completely transforms our secondary. My one question is did Lucas play both Safety and CB at Wisconsin? I thought he was strictly a CB. Why are so many listing Lucas as a potential Safety here?
 
Actual questions here

1. Since the house settlement hasn't been approved shouldn't signing a contract for NIL directly with a school/conference violate existing NCAA rules?

2. Can you enforce a contract today that is predicated on revenue sharing that isn't legal yet?


1. Drafting and negotiating contracts that are designed to be operative under a new law in the future is not, in and of itself, a problem, particularly when it is designed to implement FUTURE rules and policies of the NCAA.

However, signing such a contract and expecting it to be immediately enforceable is...problematic.

2. No, I do not believe that such a contract is enforceable today.

Let me explain the overall "problem" and why it exists. Let's say you EXPECT the NCAA settlement to be one set of circumstances in December. OK, the new year is coming up, what do you do, what do you do? The Wisconsin Collective could sign Xavier Lucas to a "regular NIL contract" under EXISTING rules, and then convert it to something different once the settlement is finalized and new rules exist.

OR...Wisconsin THE UNIVERSITY could try to beat the system 9 months in advance by signing a future "when the House settlement happens" contract. Couple problems, though. What if, say, the outgoing Presidential administration promulgates a policy in January that actually changes how much money will be available to football players? Or, what if the terms of the negotiated settlement CHANGE over the ensuing 9 months, and now the settlement contemplated in December is very different from the settlement concluded in August? Why should December's "contingent on the House settlement" language bind EITHER the university OR the player to a world that could be very different from what was contemplated at the time of signing. IS THERE a settlement? Well, sure. But is it the same as what it seemed like it would be in December? No, not really.

Now, if the contract contained a provision that said both parties need to RATIFY the existing agreement WHEN the settlement becomes final, a court would be more forgiving. RATIFICATION is an act that "re-accepts" the terms of a contract at a later time. Like, say, when a minor turns 18.

Finally, let's think about the big picture of the disparity in power and knowledge between the parties. I know it is popular on Wisconsin websites (and even among some purported Miami fans) to ****-shame Xavier Lucas "because he is an adult and he signed a contract". Uh, yeah, sure. But you are handing him a contract that is about more than just "I will do X for $Y". This is a complex contract that is claiming to be operative "today" based on the happening of some future event. Furthermore, it seems to claim ownership over a player's future school-related NIL rights (again, TV broadcast rights, merch sales, video game royalties, etc.) for multiple years, while not giving the player a similar term (or cancelable term) that would comport with his right to transfer.

In simpler words, THE BIG TEN, by drafting a "template" contract and sharing it with schools, is attempting to put a multi-year noose around the necks of players that contrasts with NCAA rules allowing the free transferability of players (who could sign revenue share agreements at their new schools anyhow) by not allowing the agreements to terminate when a player chooses to transfer to a new school. This is the "grant of rights" problem/scare tactic. You see, Miami can't leave the ACC if we don't have our TV rights until the mid-2030s. Or so we are led to believe.

And all of this was presented to Xavier Lucas...how, exactly? Did Wisconsin attempt to explain any of the rule-changes or future uncertainties to Xavier Lucas? Did they tell him to consult with an attorney? Did they give him adequate time to review the contract? Did they make it seem like "hey, Xavier, this is just the new-style NIL deal now, baby, don't sweat, don't fret, now you just sign with the university instead of the collective, chicky".

The NCAA House settlement is the single-largest change to the NCAA environment in history. And, what, some ******* FindLaw contract template that the Big 10 is pushing out to all of its member-schools, and which is sent to a kid during Final Exams and is just expected to sign without reviewing it...is what, supposed to be legal and binding and that some judge is going to take away his right to transfer "because he's 18 and he should read what he signs"?

Yeah, there are quite a few "public policy" arguments involved here. I find it hard to believe that any court, even one with a cheesehead judge in Wisconsin, will be ruling that these bait-and-switch Big 10 template contracts are worth even a penny more than the paper and toner they were written with.

If the NCAA is smart, they will hold a few Q&A educational seminars for all signees and returning athletes, to let them know their rights and responsibilities under the settlement. And if the NCAA has any value as an institution, they will put an end to powerful conferences (and one of the most powerful universities in the world, if the cheesehead Wisconsin fans are to be believed) from taking advantage of a massive power disparity to force players to sign "binding contracts" months before the settlement is actually settled. Because, you know, all these greedy and evil 18 year old football players are looking to rip off all these innocent schools simply because they want to make sure they will get paid during Spring semester 2025 before the football season starts and the House settlement even happens...HOW DARE THEY!

**** Wisconsin. And **** the Wisconsin fans.
 
Most of those contracts i'd bet were pre TITLE 9 annoucement too. If there were numbers involved Wisco's gonna be a world of hurt from a money standpoint


Which is exactly why they cannot be allowed to stand, unless ratified in the future when all terms are known.
 
I agree 100%. Xavier Lucas was the piece of the puzzle I was waiting for as this completely transforms our secondary. My one question is did Lucas play both Safety and CB at Wisconsin? I thought he was strictly a CB. Why are so many listing Lucas as a potential Safety here?
also interested to hear on this one. I hope we get to the point where we're not playing people out of position again, not sure where lucas projects best at the next level and not much tape on him that i can find from Wisconsin
 
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Wisconsin is dumb. Of course their revenue sharing contract is going to be dependent on him being a student at the university. So the minute he dropped out of the University, I would hope the contract was void. Otherwise, Wisconsin would have to pay him even if he didn't attend the University.
I'm hoping Wisconsin isn't dumb enough to believe they could legally restrict him from going to another school with a revenue sharing contract.

And despite all that, apparently all that was signed was an MOU, which is rarely (like almost never) enforceable.

And even worse, they used ALL that, to prevent him from entering the transfer portal.

They sure are pretty dumb up there apparently.


An MOU is not really enforceable, but could be used, at least in part, to equitably assess damages.

An example.

Belichick signed an MOU with North Carolina for a very large coaching contract. A key term that has been disclosed is a $10M buyout that drops to $1M this summer.

Now, Belichick has not signed the ACTUAL contract yet. And if he takes an NFL job tomorrow, it's possible that his lawyer says "zero buyout, the contract was never signed". And it's equally possible for North Carolina to say "yeah, but he intentionally delayed the signing of the contract so that the $10M buyout could never be enforced".

So a court could look to the MOU to determine whether Belichick actually owes UNC any money if he takes an NFL job tomorrow. Because, technically, Belichick has already received and cashed paychecks under the TERMS of the MOU and/or oral agreements, even though a WRITTEN contract has not yet been signed.
 
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Think of it like signing a preliminary agreement to rent an apartment next year, contingent on the building being completed and you getting a job in that city - if neither has happened yet, you're not bound to the lease.


I want to focus on this one little bit, because it is a pretty good example.

Now, imagine that before the building is built, you get a job in ANOTHER STATE and move, having created NO ACTUAL HARM, as the building is not yet complete. Furthermore, nearly every contractual breach requires the "harmed" party to mitigate damages. Meaning "go out and find another person to rent the now-available apartment in the still-unfinished building".

But instead, the apartment building manager screams about being able to enforce the 2-year lease in a building that is not even in existence, while screaming that you owe "liquidated" and/or "punitive" damages, in spite of there being no actual damages AND a duty to mitigate.

It's one of the most insane things you can imagine.

Professor Richard Hausler is turning over in his grave and making mock-outrage faces...
 
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I agree 100%. Xavier Lucas was the piece of the puzzle I was waiting for as this completely transforms our secondary. My one question is did Lucas play both Safety and CB at Wisconsin? I thought he was strictly a CB. Why are so many listing Lucas as a potential Safety here?
Because Memnon said it and the rest of us know **** all about playing CB
 
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For any Wisconsin fans who think this is a "CB3 for CB1" trade...

I will gladly take a freshman All-American "CB3" from a team that had a superior defensive backfield to Miami in 2024, in exchange for a "CB1" who played in one of Miami's worst defensive backfields of all-time and could clearly not make the transition from two years at Marshall to even two minutes at Miami.

Wisconsin really snookered us on this trade, huh?
 
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