Boom or bust? Top 10 QBs in the Portal Era ('19-'23)

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You always need to bring in high school arms. But you can't consistently pay both in the real world where money is limited. This is especially true if you aren't one of the Top 5 brands in the sport.

When resources are not infinite, it's important to look at the cold facts. And in this case, they tell a pretty clear story.

Search for affordable upside in high school. If one of them hits, pay him to stay. Otherwise, spend on more proven commodities.
Bro lives in fantasyland where money is printed off palm trees and there is never an opportunity cost to adding a player.
 

Not sure why anyone cares all that much whether it's HS or Portal, if the results have been good to great? Since 2020 our starting QBs will have been: D'Eriq King, TVD, Cam Ward, and now Carson Beck. And maybe next year it'll be a HS recruit like Luke Nickel... But our worst QB was TVD who is actually pretty good except for when he had an aneurism and decided to throw like 15 INTs in like 4 games or whatever it was... But even including that, That group has put up a statline of:

6.85% TD%, 2.07% INT%, 3.31 TD:INT, 8.99 Adjusted Y/A, and 155.06 QB Rating in 54 games over 5 Seasons.

That is very good results so far. Our offenses have been pretty great in this time period. And we now have Carson Beck who is going to start, and I'd bet we are going to get good to great results out of him as well. And like I said next year I'd bet we also go with the HS prospect Nickel. So it seems to me the strategy of top portal QB and hoping you hit on a lowerish ranked QB prospect early out of HS yearly seems to have worked so far. And if you end up hitting on the HS prospect you can skip Portal Qb a year or two...

I don't see the problem so far.
 
One thing I'd point out is how the COVID year gave players that extra eligibility, which flooded the Portal with experienced QBs over the last few years. But now we’re starting to see that inventory dry up. This is probably the first Portal cycle in a while where it’s been pretty d*mn noticeable.

Next year? It’s probably going to be even worse in terms of experienced QBs hitting the Portal that we'll deem good options.

So yeah, going the transfer route for QBs has been way more reliable historically, but it’s about to get a lot tougher, more expensive, and riskier. We really need to hit on one of Nickel, Coleman, or even Judd. If not, 2026/2027 is going to be reaaaaal scary.

I think this is being severely overlooked and has warped peoples expectation of the portal.
 
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I think this is being severely overlooked and has warped peoples expectation of the portal.
That's because they were told the portal was a surplus and budgeting in high school was the new wave. Of course like sheep they just got in line.
 
One thing I'd point out is how the COVID year gave players that extra eligibility, which flooded the Portal with experienced QBs over the last few years. But now we’re starting to see that inventory dry up. This is probably the first Portal cycle in a while where it’s been pretty d*mn noticeable.

Next year? It’s probably going to be even worse in terms of experienced QBs hitting the Portal that we'll deem good options.

So yeah, going the transfer route for QBs has been way more reliable historically, but it’s about to get a lot tougher, more expensive, and riskier. We really need to hit on one of Nickel, Coleman, or even Judd. If not, 2026/2027 is going to be reaaaaal scary.

You may be right. Let's see how that pans out. Money talks, and if players can make more elsewhere, they will portal out.

I think if Beck shines, he'll get drafted. How high, no idea. But Cam definitely had an impact on him coming here. Call me crazy, but wo back-to-back seasons with a transfer QB that gets drafted (hopefully very high) will help us attract the best QBs available. Not a fool proof plan, but it's been working out for us so far.

Lots riding on this season.
 
You may be right. Let's see how that pans out. Money talks, and if players can make more elsewhere, they will portal out.

I think if Beck shines, he'll get drafted. How high, no idea. But Cam definitely had an impact on him coming here. Call me crazy, but wo back-to-back seasons with a transfer QB that gets drafted (hopefully very high) will help us attract the best QBs available. Not a fool proof plan, but it's been working out for us so far.

Lots riding on this season.
Sounds like you have already seen the future.
 
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Sounds like you have already seen the future.
It sounds like you ran out of thoughtful contributions to the conversation after HC movement, which was good. But you're just throwing snarky comments out. You might be a intelligent individual. Just when we think you might be . . Ouch. Just stop acting like an *******
 
It sounds like you ran out of thoughtful contributions to the conversation after HC movement, which was good. But you're just throwing snarky comments out. You might be a intelligent individual. Just when we think you might be . . Ouch. Just stop acting like an *******
If you read the post he attributed success to the staff that hasn't transpired. Or did I miss Beck already getting drafted? Sometimes maybe it's OK to stfu.
 
The unknown, might not be to some, is the percentage allocated to the top 3 qb out of high school vs the average same for a top 3 portal qb. It's a value conversation. So I wonder risk/reward what's the percentage allocated that tops out precluding from completing a roster. At this point teams certainly would have percentage allocations per position, and they choose to break em or not break em for a special qb/player. The NFL obviously knows rookie qb contracts are the way . . . If you hit. The same is playing out in college.

The model @DMoney showed is the way . . For now. Which is playing both sides, hedging
 
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One thing I'd point out is how the COVID year gave players that extra eligibility, which flooded the Portal with experienced QBs over the last few years. But now we’re starting to see that inventory dry up. This is probably the first Portal cycle in a while where it’s been pretty d*mn noticeable.

Next year? It’s probably going to be even worse in terms of experienced QBs hitting the Portal that we'll deem good options.

So yeah, going the transfer route for QBs has been way more reliable historically, but it’s about to get a lot tougher, more expensive, and riskier. We really need to hit on one of Nickel, Coleman, or even Judd. If not, 2026/2027 is going to be reaaaaal scary.
Absolutely, supply and demand. Supply has been there & we have hit so far (even back to King) but it can backfire.

Just ask FSU...
 
Unless you have a sure-fire future All-Conference & NFL 1st rounder that you're recruiting outta HS, you pretty much don't have a choice but to get a Portal QB.

I mean, the fxkin National Champions & the National Champion runner-ups had no choice but to get Portal QB's for the season. And both those programs pretty much have an unlimited War-Chest.

You can depend on HS recruiting if you want to at QB, you'll fxck around & find out left floating out there in mediocreland in the middle of nowheresville like Michigan, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arizona & Utah had to realize this season.

In in today's era of CFB, everything has been expedited. All of the processes are sped up, which means, you don't get an infinite amount of time to show something. This is the "Win Now" era of CFB, & in the Win Now era, you need ready-made QB play. The only place to get that is the Portal.

You either have to start a TF or get a Portal vet. If you're lucky enough to have a Red FR/Sophomore that can be handed the reigns after a one year rental, you better hope that kid can play, or else the heat will be on & you'll be back to square one, shopping the Portal market.

If your HS QB recruit ain't a special arm talent with NFL upside, you're wasting both yours & his time.
 
Unless you have a sure-fire future All-Conference & NFL 1st rounder that you're recruiting outta HS, you pretty much don't have a choice but to get a Portal QB.

I mean, the fxkin National Champions & the National Champion runner-ups had no choice but to get Portal QB's for the season. And both those programs pretty much have an unlimited War-Chest.

You can depend on HS recruiting if you want to at QB, you'll fxck around & find out left floating out there in mediocreland in the middle of nowheresville like Michigan, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arizona & Utah had to realize this season.

In in today's era of CFB, everything has been expedited. All of the processes are sped up, which means, you don't get an infinite amount of time to show something. This is the "Win Now" era of CFB, & in the Win Now era, you need ready-made QB play. The only place to get that is the Portal.

You either have to start a TF or get a Portal vet. If you're lucky enough to have a Red FR/Sophomore that can be handed the reigns after a one year rental, you better hope that kid can play, or else the heat will be on & you'll be back to square one, shopping the Portal market.

If your HS QB recruit ain't a special arm talent with NFL upside, you're wasting both yours & his time.
I agree, But add to that you still need 3-4 QBs on the roster just for depth purposes anyways, which is why I don't think you have an option but to add high upside lower rated guys in combo with whatever strategy you choose anyways. So imo no matter what, yearly we need to add one of these cheaper high 3 star/low 4star types, who ideally have proven production and arm talent or build. So IDK why people keep criticizing that aspect.

The thing also is while in NFL Rookie qbs are high risk high reward, the reason it's such high reward is they have a cost controlled contract for 4-5 years at the most valuable position. In today's CFB world, even if you HIT on this young top HS prospect, you're only getting that "cost control" for one season - and likely their youngest most inexperienced and thus worst season. So the reward REALLY isn't even all that great in the $ sense. the actual reward for hitting on HS QB is that you have a set guy for the following 2 seasons that you can build continuity with. Obviously that matters and is very helpful in spring portal especially when trying to add wrs. But again it's still also a lot more projection involved than just going for the top guy in the portal yearly who already has a lot of film to go off of
 
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We've seen the debate all over the forums- is it better to recruit QBs in high school or through the Portal?

Most agree you need both. But in terms of resource allocation, staffs often grapple between spending big in the Portal (with the benefit of college tape) or bidding on elite high school quarterbacks (who offer upside and years of production).

I went back to the first cycle of the Portal (2019) and compiled the Top 10 QBs over a five-year period. For the rankings, I used the 247 Composite score. Some of these players are still playing, so the stats are not complete in some cases. Below is what I found, with transfers in BOLD:

2019

1. Spencer Rattler

STATS: 10,807 yards (8.2 YPA), 77 TDs, 32 INTs, 16 rushing TDs
DRAFT: 5th Round Pick
SCHOOLS: Oklahoma, South Carolina

2. Bo Nix

STATS: 15,351 yards (7.9 YPA), 113 TDs, 26 INTs, 38 rushing TDs
DRAFT: 1st round pick
SCHOOLS: Auburn, Oregon

3. Jayden Daniels

STATS: 12,749 yards (8.9 YPA), 89 TDs, 20 INTs, 34 rushing TDs
DRAFT: 1st round pick
SCHOOLS: Arizona State, LSU

4. Ryan Hilinksi

STATS: 5,222 yards (6.0 YPA), 21 TDs, 17 INTs, 4 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Undrafted
SCHOOLS: South Carolina, Northwestern

5. Graham Mertz

STATS: 9,099 yards (7.4 YPA), 64 TDs, 31 INTs, 13 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Draft-eligible this year, not invited to combine
SCHOOLS: Wisconsin, Florida

6. Sam Howell

STATS: 10,283 yards (9.2 YPA), 92 TDs, 23 INTs, 17 rushing TDs
DRAFT: 5th round pick
SCHOOL: UNC

7. Dylan Morris

STATS: 3,727 yards (7.4 YPA), 20 TDs, 17 INTs, 5 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Undrafted
SCHOOLS: Washington, James Madison

8. Taulia Tagavailoa

STATS: 11,356 yards (7.9 YPA), 77 TDs, 37 INTs, 13 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Undrafted
SCHOOLS: Alabama, Maryland

9. Max Duggan

STATS: 9,618 yards (7.9 YPA), 73 TDs, 28 INTs, 28 rushing TDs
DRAFT: 7th round pick
SCHOOL: TCU

10. Taisun Phommachanh

STATS: 3,314 yards (6.4 YPA), 15 TDs, 16 INTs, 8 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Undrafted
SCHOOLS: Clemson, Georgia Tech, Massachusetts

2020

1. Bryce Young

STATS: 8,356 yards (8.8 YPA), 80 TDs, 12 INTs, 7 rushing TDs
DRAFT: First Round
SCHOOL: Alabama

2. DJ Uiagalelei

STATS: 9,384 yards (7.0 YPA), 61 TDs, 30 INTs, 20 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Not invited to the combine
SCHOOLS: Clemson, Oregon State, Florida State

3. CJ Stroud

STATS: 8,123 yards (9.8 YPA), 85 TDS, 12 INTs, 1 rushing TD
DRAFT: First Round pick
SCHOOL: Ohio State

4. Hudson Card

STATS: 5,551 yards (6.9 YPA), 35 TDs, 17 INTs, 6 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Not invited to the combine
SCHOOLS: Texas, Purdue

5. Ja’Quinden Jackson

STATS: Converted to RB, 2,148 yards, 5.5 YPC, 29 TDs
DRAFT: Draftable grade as RB
SCHOOLS: Texas, Utah, Arkansas

6. Luke Doty

STATS: Converted to WR, 140 receiving yards, 1 TD
SCHOOL: South Carolina

8. Harrison Bailey

STATS: 1,190 yards (7 YPA), 10 TDs, 3 INTs, 2 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Tennessee, UNLV, Louisville, Florida

8. Ethan Garbers

STATS: 4,462 yards (7.5 YPA), 31 TDs, 18 INTs, 3 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Not invited to combine
SCHOOLS: Washington, UCLA

9. Haynes King

STATS: 6,535 yards (7.6 YPA), 51 TDs, 28 INTs, 22 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Texas A&M, Georgia Tech

10. Jay Butterfield

STATS: 103 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs
DRAFT: Out of football
SCHOOLS: Oregon, San Jose State

2021

1. Quinn Ewers

STATS: 9,128 yards (8.0 YPA), 68 TDs, 24 INTs, 8 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Will be drafted
SCHOOLS: Ohio State, Texas

2. Caleb Williams

STATS: 10,082 yards (9.2 YPA), 93 TDs, 14 INTs
DRAFT: First round pick
SCHOOLS: Oklahoma, USC

3. Sam Huard

STATS: 265 yards (6.0 YPA), 1 TD, 4 INTs
SCHOOLS: Washington, Utah, USC

4. Brock Vandagriff

STATS: 1,758 yards (7.4 YPA), 12 TDs, 8 INTs
DRAFT: Out of football
SCHOOLS: Georgia, Kentucy

5. JJ McCarthy

STATS: 6,226 yards (8.7 YPA), 49 TDs, 11 INTs, 10 rushing TDs
DRAFT: First round pick
SCHOOL: Michigan

6. Kyle McCord

STATS: 8,555 yards (8.6 YPA), 61 TDs, 20 INTs, 3 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Will be drafted
SCHOOLS: Ohio State, Syracuse

7. Ty Thompson

STATS: 655 yards (6.2 YPA), 9 TDs, 7 INTs, 6 rushing TDs, Switched positions to tight end
SCHOOLS: Oregon, Tulane

8. Jake Garcia

STATS: 2,376 yards (7.7 YPA), 15 TDs, 16 INTs, 2 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Miami, East Carolina

9. Drake Maye

STATS: 8,018 yards (8.4 YPA), 63 TDs, 16 INTs, 16 rushing TDs
DRAFT: First round pick
SCHOOL: North Carolina

10. Jaxson Dart

STATS: 11,970 yards (9.2 YPA), 81 TDs, 27 INTs, 14 rushing TDs
DRAFT: Will be drafted
SCHOOLS: USC, Ole Miss

2022

1. Cade Klubnick

STATS: 7,180 yards (6.9 YPA), 57 TDs, 18 INTs, 13 rushing TDs
SCHOOL: Clemson

2. Conner Weigman

STATS: 2,694 yards (7.4 YPA), 19 TDs, 7 INTs, 2 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Texas A&M, Houston

3. Ty Simpson

STATS: 381 yards (7.6 YPA), 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 3 rushing TDs
SCHOOL: Alabama

4. Drew Allar

STATS: 6,302 yards (7.5 YPA), 53 TDs, 10 INTs, 11 rushing TDs
SCHOOL: Penn State

5. Walker Howard

STATS: 63 yards (6.3 YPA), 0 TDs, 0 INTs
SCHOOLS: LSU, Ole Miss, Louisiana Lafayette

6. Devin Brown

STATS: 331 yards (6.9 YPA), 3 TDs, 1 INT, 1 rushing TD
SCHOOLS: Ohio State, California

7. Gunner Stockton

STATS: 588 yards (7.1 YPA), 3 TDs, 2 INTs
SCHOOL: Georgia

8. Sam Horn

STATS: 54 yards (6.8 YPA), 1 TD, 1 INT
SCHOOL: Missouri

9. Nick Evers

STATS: 918 yards (5.1 YPA), 5 TDs, 5 INTs, 3 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Connecticut

10. Brady Allen

STATS: 15 yards (3.8 YPA), 0 TDs, 0 INTs
SCHOOLS: Purdue, Louisville

2023

1. Arch Manning

STATS: 969 yards (10.2 YPA), 9 TDs, 2 INTs, 4 rushing TDs
SCHOOL: Texas

2. Nico Iamaleava

STATS: 2,930 yards (7.7 YPA), 21 TDs, 5 INTs, 6 rushing TDs
SCHOOL: Tennessee

3. Dante Moore

STATS: 1,659 yards (7.5 YPA), 11 TDs, 9 INTs
SCHOOLS: UCLA, Oregon

4. Jackson Arnold

STATS: 1,984 yards (6.3 YPA), 16 TDs, 6 INTs, 4 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Oklahoma, Auburn

5. Malachi Nelson

STATS: 128 yards (6.4 YPA), 0 TDs, 1 INTs
SCHOOLS: USC, Boise State, UTEP

6. Christopher Vizzina

STATS: 34 yards (5.6 YPA, 0 TDs, 0 INTs
SCHOOL: Clemson

7. Jaden Rashada

STATS: 485 yards (5.9 YPA), 4 TDs, 3 INTs
SCHOOLS: Florida, Arizona State, Georgia, Currently in Portal

8. Eli Holstein

STATS: 2,228 yards (7.7 YPA), 17 TDs, 7 INTs, 3 rushing TDs
SCHOOLS: Alabama, Pittsburgh

9. Avery Johnson

STATS: 3,191 yards (7.3 YPA), 30 TDs, 10 INTs, 14 rushing TDs
SCHOOL: Kansas State

10. Austin Novosad

STATS: 59 yards (4.5 YPA), 0 TDs, 0 INTs
SCHOOL: Oregon

TAKEAWAYS

They're likely to hit the Portal


Most Top 10 quarterbacks don't work out for the team that signs them. Of the 50 quarterbacks in this study, 33 of them (66%) jumped in the Portal.

More may join them in the '22 and '23 classes. Of the 17 who stayed, five have yet to play meaningful snaps. So that leaves about 24% who developed into permanent starters for the team that signed them.

The cream of the crop projects differently

From an evaluation standpoint, there was a significant difference between Top 3 quarterbacks and the quarterbacks ranked 4-10.

Of the nine Top 3 quarterbacks who have completed four years, seven (78%) of them have been drafted. Five of the nine (56%) were first rounders.

However, the Top 3 recruits didn't all work out at their first stop. Of the seven drafted, five (71%) transferred before getting to the NFL.

The lower seven had significantly less success. Of the 21 quarterbacks who completed four years of college and ranked outside of the Top 3, only 4 (19%) got drafted.

For purposes of this analysis, I'm projecting Quinn Ewers as getting drafted on Day 2 or 3.

CONCLUSION

My big takeaway: if you're going to spend on a top high school QB, he should be in the Top 3. Don't get into bidding wars for the other guys. And even then, you need a plan to make sure that Top 3 QB doesn't collect big checks and hop in the Portal before producing. The Top 3 QBs are also attractive Portal candidates, even if they had ups and downs at their prior stops (see Daniels and Nix). The talent is usually there.

While the odds are against a top high school QB starting long-term for the team he signs with, the ones that do stay have a ton of success. Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Max Duggan, Sam Howell, Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy, Cade Klubnick and Drew Allar are prime examples. But of course, there is selection bias- the guys that stay are much more likely to have succeeded early.

Overall, I think we should allocate most of our QB money to the Portal or retaining young starters. High schoolers are too volatile. Of the Top 10 QBs in the 2025 NFL Draft per CBS, nine of them are transfers. You have a better idea of what you're going to get and how they fit into your system. Get affordable players with traits out of high school, and if they hit, then you pay them.

Comment below with your strategy for attacking the QB position.

Well done and your conclusion is 100% spot on.

I suspect you will see this same pattern in the "glamour" positions vice one whereby there is far more stability and "loyalty" in the "workman" positions for a team.

Many of us said from the jump that HS athletes, as a group, would take the biggest hit and be the biggest losers in the portal + NIL era.
 
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