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That all being said, Berrios was eons more productive in college than McKenzie ever was.

No he wasn't.

Come on, bro. Berrios had like 5 less receptions last season ALONE than McKenzie had in his ENTIRE career at Georgia.

Macheau dug his Spotbilt heels in long ago on McKenzie/Berrios. He's not going to change his opinion despite Berrios clearly being a better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player.

Cause you all knew that Berrios was gonna be a "better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player" coming out of high school right?

MF'er, the jury was still out on him no more than a year ago, when McKenzie registered more catches in his Junior season than Berrios had his entire career. Now all of a sudden Berrios has a good Senior season and everybody knew! Shut up. LOL
 
Come on, bro. Berrios had like 5 less receptions last season ALONE than McKenzie had in his ENTIRE career at Georgia.

McKenzie also left as a Junior.

I'm not gonna get into this debate again. Anybody who thinks McKenzie wouldn't have been a huge value to us is silly. Berrios had a great Senior year but before that this wasn't even a discussion.

Before that he missed most of a season, and was playing out of position. If he had 4 years in the slot..... Oh well.
Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Legitimate gripe on what? Who the **** bats 1.000 with non 5 star can't miss types in recruiting? Miami owes heritage nothing...Every coach is going to have misses, if they have too many, their team isn't good enough and the coach gets fired.

Like it was some type of master plot against AH kids (weirdo eyeroll emoji)...It wasn't...And even in fairytale land it was, staff is gone and the coach who took the player these pi$$ants like Wilson are bytching about is now at UM?

Legitimate gripe, now that's funny
 
That all being said, Berrios was eons more productive in college than McKenzie ever was.

No he wasn't.

Come on, bro. Berrios had like 5 less receptions last season ALONE than McKenzie had in his ENTIRE career at Georgia.

Macheau dug his Spotbilt heels in long ago on McKenzie/Berrios. He's not going to change his opinion despite Berrios clearly being a better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player.

Cause you all knew that Berrios was gonna be a "better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player" coming out of high school right?

MF'er, the jury was still out on him no more than a year ago, when McKenzie registered more catches in his Junior season than Berrios had his entire career. Now all of a sudden Berrios has a good Senior season and everybody knew! Shut up. LOL

Berrios wasn’t some scrub coming out of high school, though. He was a consensus 4 Star and was invited to play in the Under Armor All American Game.
 
McKenzie also left as a Junior.

I'm not gonna get into this debate again. Anybody who thinks McKenzie wouldn't have been a huge value to us is silly. Berrios had a great Senior year but before that this wasn't even a discussion.

Before that he missed most of a season, and was playing out of position. If he had 4 years in the slot..... Oh well.
Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Legitimate gripe on what? Who the **** bats 1.000 with non 5 star can't miss types in recruiting? Miami owes heritage nothing...Every coach is going to have misses, if they have too many, their team isn't good enough and the coach gets fired.

Like it was some type of master plot against AH kids (weirdo eyeroll emoji)...It wasn't...And even in fairytale land it was, staff is gone and the coach who took the player these pi$$ants like Wilson are bytching about is now at UM?

Legitimate gripe, now that's funny

They had a legitimate gripe AT THAT TIME.

McKenzie was arguably the most explosive player in Broward. And Dowels was 1st team All-State and had just won Defensive Player of the Year. He was the best CB in Broward.

Neither was offered by Miami. Instead we signed Braxton Berrios and Ryan Mayes.

Even with Berrios having one good season that was a recruiting fail.
 
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No he wasn't.

Come on, bro. Berrios had like 5 less receptions last season ALONE than McKenzie had in his ENTIRE career at Georgia.

Macheau dug his Spotbilt heels in long ago on McKenzie/Berrios. He's not going to change his opinion despite Berrios clearly being a better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player.

Cause you all knew that Berrios was gonna be a "better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player" coming out of high school right?

MF'er, the jury was still out on him no more than a year ago, when McKenzie registered more catches in his Junior season than Berrios had his entire career. Now all of a sudden Berrios has a good Senior season and everybody knew! Shut up. LOL

Berrios wasn’t some scrub coming out of high school, though. He was a consensus 4 Star and was invited to play in the Under Armor All American Game.

That's great.

McKeznie was the most explosive player in Miami's backyard.
 
Before that he missed most of a season, and was playing out of position. If he had 4 years in the slot..... Oh well.
Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Legitimate gripe on what? Who the **** bats 1.000 with non 5 star can't miss types in recruiting? Miami owes heritage nothing...Every coach is going to have misses, if they have too many, their team isn't good enough and the coach gets fired.

Like it was some type of master plot against AH kids (weirdo eyeroll emoji)...It wasn't...And even in fairytale land it was, staff is gone and the coach who took the player these pi$$ants like Wilson are bytching about is now at UM?

Legitimate gripe, now that's funny

They had a legitimate gripe AT THAT TIME.

McKenzie was arguably the most explosive player in Broward. And Dowels was 1st team All-State and had just won Defensive Player of the Year. He was the best CB in Broward.

Neither was offered by Miami. Instead we signed Braxton Berrios and Ryan Mayes.

Even with Berrios having one good season that was a recruiting fail.

Like I said...Lol legitimate gripe. Yeah Chad Wilson and AH---it was personal, you saw right through it...This is some funny ish
 
As a general rule of thumb you should only pay attention to CS when they cite their source (e.g. when they interviewed Mcintosh's dad)

I'm not sure who they used as their "sources", but they're desperate to find any info to sealed recruitments, wouldn't surprise me if they interviewed old position coaches or even a teacher that will gladly regurgitate what he read online to feel like an insider.


This is on point. Ive said before that when I was coaching, we would laugh about insider articles on our players. They had "quotes" and "sources", even though the writers never talked to our kids or coaches or parents and the articles were almost always hidden behind VIP or some other pay access crap. So the kids didnt even have access to the quotes they never gave.
 
Macho we all understand your position bro but this **** isn’t legit they can’t hold us to this standard especially when mark signed those kids and your old head coach is here bruh this seems like some made up ****
 
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Come on, bro. Berrios had like 5 less receptions last season ALONE than McKenzie had in his ENTIRE career at Georgia.

Macheau dug his Spotbilt heels in long ago on McKenzie/Berrios. He's not going to change his opinion despite Berrios clearly being a better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player.

Cause you all knew that Berrios was gonna be a "better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player" coming out of high school right?

MF'er, the jury was still out on him no more than a year ago, when McKenzie registered more catches in his Junior season than Berrios had his entire career. Now all of a sudden Berrios has a good Senior season and everybody knew! Shut up. LOL

Berrios wasn’t some scrub coming out of high school, though. He was a consensus 4 Star and was invited to play in the Under Armor All American Game.

That's great.

McKeznie was the most explosive player in Miami's backyard.

Okay, well we all know Golden was an idiot. It is what it is.
 
@Macho..Ill give you McKenzie..we should have offered. Period. He was Roscoe Parrish 2.0 and for Golden and his staff not to see that is crazy especially since Roscoe more then held his own around here at that size.

But your boy Dowels has been pretty much a bust at Syracuse too. Lets not make it seem like he has been ballin'. I know he had injuries but all things equal..we cant put him on the "miss" list.

That said, heard rumors he is looking to grad transfer and is looking at UM..any truth to this?
 
Meh it’s close enough that it could go either way. If you add the student side of things then there is no debate. My guess is 10 years from now McKenzie will feel very fortunate to be Mr. Berrios limo driver.

Get off the homer act for one second and be objective.

Coming out of high school they weren't even in the same stratosphere. Hindsight is 20/20.

Heritage had a legitimate gripe regarding McKenzie and Dowels to be honest.

Legitimate gripe on what? Who the **** bats 1.000 with non 5 star can't miss types in recruiting? Miami owes heritage nothing...Every coach is going to have misses, if they have too many, their team isn't good enough and the coach gets fired.

Like it was some type of master plot against AH kids (weirdo eyeroll emoji)...It wasn't...And even in fairytale land it was, staff is gone and the coach who took the player these pi$$ants like Wilson are bytching about is now at UM?

Legitimate gripe, now that's funny

They had a legitimate gripe AT THAT TIME.

McKenzie was arguably the most explosive player in Broward. And Dowels was 1st team All-State and had just won Defensive Player of the Year. He was the best CB in Broward.

Neither was offered by Miami. Instead we signed Braxton Berrios and Ryan Mayes.

Even with Berrios having one good season that was a recruiting fail.

Like I said...Lol legitimate gripe. Yeah Chad Wilson and AH---it was personal, you saw right through it...This is some funny ish

I'm glad you brought up Wilson, cause he had a legitimate gripe too. His son should've been offered by Miami as well.

None of this matters NOW though. We're talking back then. I don't blame them for holding a grudge against Miami. We were ignoring the best players in our own backyard.

Why is this funny? It's past tense. Shouldn't be an issue anymore.
 
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That all being said, Berrios was eons more productive in college than McKenzie ever was.

No he wasn't.

Come on, bro. Berrios had like 5 less receptions last season ALONE than McKenzie had in his ENTIRE career at Georgia.

Macheau dug his Spotbilt heels in long ago on McKenzie/Berrios. He's not going to change his opinion despite Berrios clearly being a better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player.

Cause you all knew that Berrios was gonna be a "better player, better leader, better teammate, better student and more clutch player" coming out of high school right?

MF'er, the jury was still out on him no more than a year ago, when McKenzie registered more catches in his Junior season than Berrios had his entire career. Now all of a sudden Berrios has a good Senior season and everybody knew! Shut up. LOL

LOL at "legitimate gripe." If UM had to take everyone that the local coaches and leeches think we should take we'd need 498 scholarships. We got the better guy and the better football player. Dig those Spotbilts in.
 
I'm the guy who tipped the staff to Berrios so obviously I support the offer. He's an NFL player.

But the truth is we should've signed both. The Patriots have proven that you can never have enough quick guys that can separate. McKenzie won games for Georgia.
 
Macho we all understand your position bro but this **** isn’t legit they can’t hold us to this standard especially when mark signed those kids and your old head coach is here bruh this seems like some made up ****

Jesus fckin christ learn how to read. He's not saying that we should still be screwed because of that. Different staff. At the time he's saying AH had a legit gripe. If Golden was still here they'd still have a legit gripe. But Golden ain't here.

First thing Macho said about that article was it is bullshyt. Learn. How. To. Read.
 
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@Macho..Ill give you McKenzie..we should have offered. Period. He was Roscoe Parrish 2.0 and for Golden and his staff not to see that is crazy especially since Roscoe more then held his own around here at that size.

But your boy Dowels has been pretty much a bust at Syracuse too. Lets not make it seem like he has been ballin'. I know he had injuries but all things equal..we cant put him on the "miss" list.

That said, heard rumors he is looking to grad transfer and is looking at UM..any truth to this?

People love to use hindsight.

COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL...

Who was better, Ryan Mayes or Juwan Dowels?

Ok then.

Nobody knew that he was gonna be hampered by injuries. He was Syracuse's best CB before he got hurt.
 
Another thread that stayed on topic.
 
That report is BS. Holding something over a schools head when the school had nothing to do with it. Blame the idiot coach who everyone knew was a moron. The HC now is the guy who signed both Michel and McKenzie. Anybody defending this report or saying AH has any kind of gripe falls in that category of Golden dumb.
 
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