Yes.... This again..

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if it was not a liberal hack web site he would have had the sigs..

and this has been out for at least 3 years and we have 7000 sigs.....

I think we ALL know we are locked into ****life for 7 more years....so while this is great and fun...its trivial at this point
 
if it was not a liberal hack web site he would have had the sigs..

and this has been out for at least 3 years and we have 7000 sigs.....

I think we ALL know we are locked into ****life for 7 more years....so while this is great and fun...its trivial at this point

No disrespect but this is a classic example of something I posted a few days ago (See Below). Why be that guy? Why try to prevent progress? It is one thing to just NOT SIGN (for whatever reason), it is another thing to try to influence others to not sign.

Side note, we signed a 25 year lease with Sun Life stadium in 2008. 7 years left? Try 19-20.

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Our fan base (mostly) is only capable of complaining on a message board.

They hate the defense and coach, what do they do? Post on a message board.

They are upset about the lack of effort towards a stadium, what do they do? Post on a message board.

They want changes with coach Morris, what do they do? Post on a message board.

This website is good because it gives you the opportunity to be around a few thousand cane fans with ease. If you want to change things, organize and do something productive. Posting on a message board by itself does little to nothing.

Our fan base sucks because for the most part they are lazy, stupid and content with the status quo. I remember people knocking Strauzer because of his stadium petition. Not only did they refuse to sign, they mocked his efforts and essentially tried to prevent his progress by calling it stupid and pointless.

It is one thing to not help, it is a "cane thang" to prevent positive change.
 
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if it was not a liberal hack web site he would have had the sigs..

and this has been out for at least 3 years and we have 7000 sigs.....

I think we ALL know we are locked into ****life for 7 more years....so while this is great and fun...its trivial at this point


No disrespect but this is a classic example of something I posted a few days ago (See Below). Why be that guy? Why try to prevent progress? It is one thing to just NOT SIGN (for whatever reason), it is another thing to try to influence others to not sign.

Side note, we signed a 25 year lease with Sun Life stadium in 2008. 7 years left? Try 19-20.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Our fan base (mostly) is only capable of complaining on a message board.

They hate the defense and coach, what do they do? Post on a message board.

They are upset about the lack of effort towards a stadium, what do they do? Post on a message board.

They want changes with coach Morris, what do they do? Post on a message board.

This website is good because it gives you the opportunity to be around a few thousand cane fans with ease. If you want to change things, organize and do something productive. Posting on a message board by itself does little to nothing.

Our fan base sucks because for the most part they are lazy, stupid and content with the status quo. I remember people knocking Strauzer because of his stadium petition. Not only did they refuse to sign, they mocked his efforts and essentially tried to prevent his progress by calling it stupid and pointless.

It is one thing to not help, it is a "cane thang" to prevent positive change.

What is the actual deal on the lease? I heard that we can get out of it since Sun Life is not being upgraded. Anyone know whether that's true?
 
What is the actual deal on the lease? I heard that we can get out of it since Sun Life is not being upgraded. Anyone know whether that's true?

I have NO idea. In fact, I doubt may people know the pertinent details of the lease. I myself have always wanted to know the buyout provisions of the lease.
 
if it was not a liberal hack web site he would have had the sigs..

and this has been out for at least 3 years and we have 7000 sigs.....

I think we ALL know we are locked into ****life for 7 more years....so while this is great and fun...its trivial at this point

No disrespect but this is a classic example of something I posted a few days ago (See Below). Why be that guy? Why try to prevent progress? It is one thing to just NOT SIGN (for whatever reason), it is another thing to try to influence others to not sign.

Side note, we signed a 25 year lease with Sun Life stadium in 2008. 7 years left? Try 19-20.

_____________________________________________________________________________

Our fan base (mostly) is only capable of complaining on a message board.

They hate the defense and coach, what do they do? Post on a message board.

They are upset about the lack of effort towards a stadium, what do they do? Post on a message board.

They want changes with coach Morris, what do they do? Post on a message board.

This website is good because it gives you the opportunity to be around a few thousand cane fans with ease. If you want to change things, organize and do something productive. Posting on a message board by itself does little to nothing.

Our fan base sucks because for the most part they are lazy, stupid and content with the status quo. I remember people knocking Strauzer because of his stadium petition. Not only did they refuse to sign, they mocked his efforts and essentially tried to prevent his progress by calling it stupid and pointless.

It is one thing to not help, it is a "cane thang" to prevent positive change.

Its called being a realist and not sheep...

I am 50 and have no dog in this fight...if the young guns want this stadium so bad, then be at the games..all the games gathering signatures....I was at the BB game Sat night and sitting with some old school boosters they love SUNLIFE as they say they can afford to LOVE SUNLIFE they have purple or valet parking club seats etc...these are the real decision makers not 7000 kids signing a web site...

Like I said I have not seen or had one opportunity to sign anything regarding a stadium at Football, BB or Baseball....I am pretty sure there are an abundant of Canes fans at these games.. Plus just gathering sigs is one thing....this site has no real plan you know why... there is no real plan...

Thanks for your input.....
 
Its called being a realist and not sheep...

I am 50 and have no dog in this fight...if the young guns want this stadium so bad, then be at the games..all the games gathering signatures....I was at the BB game Sat night and sitting with some old school boosters they love SUNLIFE as they say they can afford to LOVE SUNLIFE they have purple or valet parking club seats etc...these are the real decision makers not 7000 kids signing a web site...

Like I said I have not seen or had one opportunity to sign anything regarding a stadium at Football, BB or Baseball....I am pretty sure there are an abundant of Canes fans at these games.. Plus just gathering sigs is one thing....this site has no real plan you know why... there is no real plan...

Thanks for your input.....

A realist and not sheep. I would think it would be a "sheep" to simply support the status quo. Clearly the otherside is the minority.

As a cane fan, you should have a dog in this fight. You should want what is best for the program (long term) and that would be our own stadium that would fit our needs. The underlined part has nothing to do with the petition. In fact you can do both. They are not mutually exclusive ideas, we can do both and we should do both. I suppose it being a "liberal" website is too much for you to sign the petition.

I don't care if the misguided boosters you sit next to love sun life (probably because they are located near it), the stadium is terrible and provides ZERO home advantage. By simply saying they love sun life shows how out of touch they are with what is best for the program.

The reason you don't hear anything about the stadium is because we don't put much pressure on the, AD, admin and president. Like I said in my post above, posting on a message board DOES NOTHING. In addition, we have fans like yourself (no disrespect) that attempt to prevent any type of movement. I never get this position but you are entitled to it.

Since there is no pressure on the AD, admin and president, they are also content with the status quo.

My goal is to get out of that stadium as fast as possible and I believe Strauzer is just trying to generate some energy behind that movement. My question for you is why prevent this idea in anyway.
 
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Its called being a realist and not sheep...

I am 50 and have no dog in this fight...if the young guns want this stadium so bad, then be at the games..all the games gathering signatures....I was at the BB game Sat night and sitting with some old school boosters they love SUNLIFE as they say they can afford to LOVE SUNLIFE they have purple or valet parking club seats etc...these are the real decision makers not 7000 kids signing a web site...

Like I said I have not seen or had one opportunity to sign anything regarding a stadium at Football, BB or Baseball....I am pretty sure there are an abundant of Canes fans at these games.. Plus just gathering sigs is one thing....this site has no real plan you know why... there is no real plan...

Thanks for your input.....

A realist and not sheep. I would think it would be a "sheep" to simply support the status quo. Clearly the otherside is the minority.

As a cane fan, you should have a dog in this fight. You should want what is best for the program (long term) and that would be our own stadium that would fit our needs. The underlined part has nothing to do with the petition. In fact you can do both. They are not mutually exclusive ideas, we can do both and we should do both. I suppose it being a "liberal" website is too much for you to sign the petition.

I don't care if the misguided boosters you sit next to love sun life (probably because they are located near it), the stadium is terrible and provides ZERO home advantage. By simply saying they love sun life shows how out of touch they are with what is best for the program.

The reason you don't hear anything about the stadium is because we don't put much pressure on the, AD, admin and president. Like I said in my post above, posting on a message board DOES NOTHING. In addition, we have fans like yourself (no disrespect) that attempt to prevent any type of movement. I never get this position but you are entitled to it.

Since there is no pressure on the AD, admin and president, they are also content with the status quo.

My goal is to get out of that stadium as fast as possible and I believe Strauzer is just trying to generate some energy behind that movement. My question for you is why prevent this idea in anyway.


there are steps to everything in life...when Donna was looking to get out of the City of Miami's grasp and the OB she has back up plans and even plan c...

Gathering signatures is great and I am a grass roots type guy, but you need a plan, not just mentioning sites that have zero to 5% chance...Even David Bechem this soccer guy will be in a dog fight with the City to get anything built...

Donna's passion is Health and her money pit hospital...if any plans are to be put in place it should or will have to benefit more than us so called fans and alum...I have been her when students ask her about this issue..her same response is recruits love this ( Sunlife) place and then she smiles and says its good enough for Super bowls and Bowl games...( which we all know is a lie).....

again I am not stopping anyone from signing anything or shutting down this website just stating this site has been up for at least 3 years...one good campaign at a Canes event you can get all the sigs you want....
 
Enlist the Latin Builders Association, play to their egos and remarkable things could be accomplished. Promise financial incentives--in other projects.
 
Its called being a realist and not sheep...

I am 50 and have no dog in this fight...if the young guns want this stadium so bad, then be at the games..all the games gathering signatures....I was at the BB game Sat night and sitting with some old school boosters they love SUNLIFE as they say they can afford to LOVE SUNLIFE they have purple or valet parking club seats etc...these are the real decision makers not 7000 kids signing a web site...

Like I said I have not seen or had one opportunity to sign anything regarding a stadium at Football, BB or Baseball....I am pretty sure there are an abundant of Canes fans at these games.. Plus just gathering sigs is one thing....this site has no real plan you know why... there is no real plan...

Thanks for your input.....

A realist and not sheep. I would think it would be a "sheep" to simply support the status quo. Clearly the otherside is the minority.

As a cane fan, you should have a dog in this fight. You should want what is best for the program (long term) and that would be our own stadium that would fit our needs. The underlined part has nothing to do with the petition. In fact you can do both. They are not mutually exclusive ideas, we can do both and we should do both. I suppose it being a "liberal" website is too much for you to sign the petition.

I don't care if the misguided boosters you sit next to love sun life (probably because they are located near it), the stadium is terrible and provides ZERO home advantage. By simply saying they love sun life shows how out of touch they are with what is best for the program.

The reason you don't hear anything about the stadium is because we don't put much pressure on the, AD, admin and president. Like I said in my post above, posting on a message board DOES NOTHING. In addition, we have fans like yourself (no disrespect) that attempt to prevent any type of movement. I never get this position but you are entitled to it.

Since there is no pressure on the AD, admin and president, they are also content with the status quo.

My goal is to get out of that stadium as fast as possible and I believe Strauzer is just trying to generate some energy behind that movement. My question for you is why prevent this idea in anyway.


there are steps to everything in life...when Donna was looking to get out of the City of Miami's grasp and the OB she has back up plans and even plan c...

Gathering signatures is great and I am a grass roots type guy, but you need a plan, not just mentioning sites that have zero to 5% chance...Even David Bechem this soccer guy will be in a dog fight with the City to get anything built...

Donna's passion is Health and her money pit hospital...if any plans are to be put in place it should or will have to benefit more than us so called fans and alum...I have been her when students ask her about this issue..her same response is recruits love this ( Sunlife) place and then she smiles and says its good enough for Super bowls and Bowl games...( which we all know is a lie).....

again I am not stopping anyone from signing anything or shutting down this website just stating this site has been up for at least 3 years...one good campaign at a Canes event you can get all the sigs you want....


What do you make of the fact that Shalala and Blake James have been hob-nobbing with Beckham and co, and have seemed quite open to the idea of pursuing a partnership of some kind for a new stadium? Could it possibly be that she's actually a pretty smart businesswoman? And smart businesspeople usually don't go around whining about how horrible their current situations are...they are prone to say things like "we are very happy with our arrangements at Sun Life" one minute, while behind the scenes they are actively looking for options to get the **** out.
 
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Its called being a realist and not sheep...

I am 50 and have no dog in this fight...if the young guns want this stadium so bad, then be at the games..all the games gathering signatures....I was at the BB game Sat night and sitting with some old school boosters they love SUNLIFE as they say they can afford to LOVE SUNLIFE they have purple or valet parking club seats etc...these are the real decision makers not 7000 kids signing a web site...

Like I said I have not seen or had one opportunity to sign anything regarding a stadium at Football, BB or Baseball....I am pretty sure there are an abundant of Canes fans at these games.. Plus just gathering sigs is one thing....this site has no real plan you know why... there is no real plan...

Thanks for your input.....

A realist and not sheep. I would think it would be a "sheep" to simply support the status quo. Clearly the otherside is the minority.

As a cane fan, you should have a dog in this fight. You should want what is best for the program (long term) and that would be our own stadium that would fit our needs. The underlined part has nothing to do with the petition. In fact you can do both. They are not mutually exclusive ideas, we can do both and we should do both. I suppose it being a "liberal" website is too much for you to sign the petition.

I don't care if the misguided boosters you sit next to love sun life (probably because they are located near it), the stadium is terrible and provides ZERO home advantage. By simply saying they love sun life shows how out of touch they are with what is best for the program.

The reason you don't hear anything about the stadium is because we don't put much pressure on the, AD, admin and president. Like I said in my post above, posting on a message board DOES NOTHING. In addition, we have fans like yourself (no disrespect) that attempt to prevent any type of movement. I never get this position but you are entitled to it.

Since there is no pressure on the AD, admin and president, they are also content with the status quo.

My goal is to get out of that stadium as fast as possible and I believe Strauzer is just trying to generate some energy behind that movement. My question for you is why prevent this idea in anyway.


there are steps to everything in life...when Donna was looking to get out of the City of Miami's grasp and the OB she has back up plans and even plan c...

Gathering signatures is great and I am a grass roots type guy, but you need a plan, not just mentioning sites that have zero to 5% chance...Even David Bechem this soccer guy will be in a dog fight with the City to get anything built...

Donna's passion is Health and her money pit hospital...if any plans are to be put in place it should or will have to benefit more than us so called fans and alum...I have been her when students ask her about this issue..her same response is recruits love this ( Sunlife) place and then she smiles and says its good enough for Super bowls and Bowl games...( which we all know is a lie).....

again I am not stopping anyone from signing anything or shutting down this website just stating this site has been up for at least 3 years...one good campaign at a Canes event you can get all the sigs you want....


What do you make of the fact that Shalala and Blake James have been hob-nobbing with Beckham and co, and have seemed quite open to the idea of pursuing a partnership of some kind for a new stadium? Could it possibly be that she's actually a pretty smart businesswoman? And smart businesspeople usually don't go around whining about how horrible their current situations are...they are prone to say things like "we are very happy with our arrangements at Sun Life" one minute, while behind the scenes they are actively looking for options to get the **** out.

I have not followed this story that much..the only hob knobbing I read was where she commented at an event and was quoted she was happy for a MLS team coming to Miami...and 25K stadium is not for us....again best of luck with this venture
 
I will keep signing these until I die or it finally happens

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there are steps to everything in life...when Donna was looking to get out of the City of Miami's grasp and the OB she has back up plans and even plan c...

Gathering signatures is great and I am a grass roots type guy, but you need a plan, not just mentioning sites that have zero to 5% chance...Even David Bechem this soccer guy will be in a dog fight with the City to get anything built...

Donna's passion is Health and her money pit hospital...if any plans are to be put in place it should or will have to benefit more than us so called fans and alum...I have been her when students ask her about this issue..her same response is recruits love this ( Sunlife) place and then she smiles and says its good enough for Super bowls and Bowl games...( which we all know is a lie).....

again I am not stopping anyone from signing anything or shutting down this website just stating this site has been up for at least 3 years...one good campaign at a Canes event you can get all the sigs you want....

I agree there are steps that are needed. I would say the first step is building momentum and creating energy behind this message. This is part of the first step, it is not enough but it is part. So bringing up the site as a liberal blah blah blah is just preventing some of this energy.

I don't care about Donna's passion, I care about getting the message across that sun life is one of the worst things possible for the canes. I am pretty sure everyone knows Sun Life is terrible for our future, even Donna. Every relevant coach uses it as negative recruiting fuel. All the media douche bags constantly bring it up as a negative (which it is) environment. Finally, anyone who has attended a game outside of UF and FSU knows there is no energy in the stadium.
 
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These things don't work.

I signed the petition to keep Franklin out of Happy Valley and it didn't work.
 
I read the fine print - clearly says that you can both sign and *****/moan at the same time.

Since we don't know the agreement with Sun Life, is it possible that a named Build a Stadium Campaign would have negative consequences to that agreement in terms of damages?
 
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