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Xavier Lucas wants to be in the portal but Luke Fickell pays to watch men ramrod his wife

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grover said:
No lawyer. But when the NCAA has a regulation that says the institution SHALL submit the players application to transfer into the portal within 2 business days, then seems like the actual physical motions of entering that information is irrelevant and the player did his part so has every right to contact whomever he wants to.
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The same bylaws that require the school to submit the player's name into the portal forbid other schools (and their representatives) from communicating with the player until he's in the portal. Whether the NCAA wants to police it, that's a different story.

The position you seem to be advocating is that because one school failed to follow the portal submission rules for an athlete, any other school may ignore the contact rules as to that athlete.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Tampering is an NCAA issue. Damages are a courtroom issue.
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Yes. Obviously. So what?

As to the schools w/ offers at issue, which would be more concerning? And if Lucas is ultimately trying to transfer to one of those schools, would submitting evidence that could be used (by the NCAA/Wisconsin) against said school be prudent?

As I stated earlier, I sincerely doubt any of the allegedly 40 organizations/entities/schools making offers want those offers submitted as evidence in a court proceeding.
 
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Jedi Master Cane said:
What, nobody taking the BAIT?

**** wrong thread
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No_Fly_Zone said:
Who said it was? You have completely missed the point.

The question was about evidence of monetary damages to Lucas resulting from Wisconsin's failure to adhere to the rule. There was a response that Lucas had 40 offers. The delta between his highest offer and what he's making now could serve as a basis for monetary damages. The problem is, since Lucas was not, in fact, actually in the portal when he received those offers, there is an argument to be made that those offers would be evidence of other schools (not Wisconsin) violating the contact rules.

Does that serve as an excuse for Wisconsin's failure to adhere to the rule? Of course not.
But does it possibly throw other schools under the bus to prove Lucas's damages? Quite possible, yes.
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I get that didn’t miss the point. None of it absolves Wisconsin
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Tampering is an NCAA issue. Damages are a courtroom issue.
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Here's what I don't understand.

Xavier Lucas is not Tom Brady. He's a good player, but only that. And there's thousands of NIL contracts out there and thousands of players coming in and out of the portal. I find it very, very hard to believe that his situation and his contract is so wildly unique.

To me, this comes across as someone in the Wisconsin organization is deeply, personally offended by something with this kid and driving this entire thing. It could be Fickell and the rest of the organization is bending to his demands. But someone is on a crusade and nobody within the organization seems to be able to stop it.

It's the only thing that make sense because no school is going to spend this amount of energy on a freshman corner back. The kid isn't coming back. You're spending time and money to fight this. You're likely hurting recruiting. You could make the, "we're sending a message", argument but any rational person knows this isn't going to change anything. Kids and agents are just going to structure deals differently knowing Wisconsin has the desire to do these things.
 
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Odysseus said:
Right Feds would be all over lol. And CNN headline would read the University of Miami is holding student hostage from transferring schools.
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They would do the Chappelle stand up, " let's just sprinkle some Crack on him " approach. Whatever it takes to ***** us over............but last thing we need is the NCAA or other feds to come around Dennis Sniff's office
 
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hurricaneman said:
Here's what I don't understand.

Xavier Lucas is not Tom Brady. He's a good player, but only that. And there's thousands of NIL contracts out there and thousands of players coming in and out of the portal. I find it very, very hard to believe that his situation and his contract is so wildly unique.

To me, this comes across as someone in the Wisconsin organization is deeply, personally offended by something with this kid and driving this entire thing. It could be Fickell and the rest of the organization is bending to his demands. But someone is on a crusade and nobody within the organization seems to be able to stop it.

It's the only thing that make sense because no school is going to spend this amount of energy on a freshman corner back. The kid isn't coming back. You're spending time and money to fight this. You're likely hurting recruiting. You could make the, "we're sending a message", argument but any rational person knows this isn't going to change anything. Kids and agents are just going to structure deals differently knowing Wisconsin has the desire to do these things.
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Luke Fickell doesn't have this kind of power in Madison. Its the boosters who raised the money, signed the deal, and saw less than 48 hours later kid was out. Their money goes beyond just the football program. If anything this has only weakened Fickell's standing with those same boosters.

I've said it before... Wisconsin doesn't have the stomach for this NIL world. They wonder "if a teenager can sign a deal and then snub the program a bunch of multi-millionaires, what is the point of any of this?"

They don't care about the recruiting impact at the moment. Why would they? They thought they had won the XL recruitment twice (HS and NIL signing). If this scares off recruits who would do this to them, they are spinning that as a POSITVE.
 
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