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Xavier Lucas in the portal

hurricaneman said:
Dude, I don't understand how they don't understand this entire thing implies their collective is colluding with the university. None of them seem to comprehend this.

And they think it's good for the school to go to trial over a player wanting to enter the portal? They think that's going to help them?

What are they smoking up there?
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The optics ain’t good no matter how this turns out.
 
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GojiraCane said:
Irrelevant to Wisconsin and its team. The school and the collective are separate entities. His activities with the latter have no bearing on the former.
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Understand that, but he'd be setting a terrible precedent for other players who may do the same, squandering their NIL funds thus putting a choke hold on the team. Though not legal, making things as difficult as they can.
 
pyhooya said:
This just screams he took money from them and is trying to run off with it.
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Does it? Does it?

Where is the "run off with it" angle coming from? Have you ever seen an NIL agreement? The "requirements" from the athlete are shockingly sparse. As we saw from Jaden Rashada's NIL deal, he had to sign an insanely low number of autographs TO GET 14 MILLION DOLLARS.

So let's not pretend there is any "running off". If the collective wants to include a repayment schedule in an NIL deal, they are free to do so. And the player is free to choose not to sign such a deal.

There is some sort of mythical and invented rationale that somehow Xavier Lucas "owes" Wisconsin or its Collective some magical amount of money. Nobody knows that. Nobody has any idea. One guy who HAS reviewed the NIL document is Darren Heitner, and if the sole impediment was "pay back $X", I'm sure he would be pursuing that angle (since Xavier Lucas will get paid at whatever new school signs him).

The fact that Heitner believes that Xavier Lucas doesn't owe Wisconsin a penny to be able to get into the Portal is a good indication of where things stand from a monetary standpoint.
 
grover said:
@TheOriginalCane I still don't see why Mario can't just ask admissions to admit Lucas, and he just shows up to class next week.
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Because...that's not how universities operate.

No matter what, Xavier Lucas has to apply for admission to UM. It can be expedited. He can get preferential treatment that any student-athlete might get. But the process cannot and will not be "Mario asking Admissions to just admit Lucas".

And I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I understand the question and I understand the concerns. We just have to do things the right way.
 
mirvin88 said:
I agree with everything you said. It is puzzling they’re holding him hostage. It seems like they have, or think they have, some leverage. Without pay for play I can’t imagine any situation where the school can prevent him from leaving when he’s in his right to do so, without some meddling from the collective. Which would be a problem for them. He’s not making money to play for Wisconsin and therefore Wisconsin cannot enforce anything the collective drew up.
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I don't believe they think they have leverage.

I believe they think they are making some big heroic Public Relations stink. This is the fundamental equivalent of UConn saying to the world "we know a bunch of schools are tampering and we know your names".

Looks like a lot of fun in the headlines. Accomplishes absolutely nothing.

But Wisconsin is sure as **** going to try to make us look bad in the meantime.
 
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pyhooya said:
I didnt mean Miami wanting him to come home to play and if he is good enough. I meant if he took money then just give it back and move on. I am guessing he took money.....spent some of it and cant pay it back.
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**** dawg my bad, looks like we posted the same thing. I'm of the same opinion, money is thought to be on the wrong side of the collective.
 
This wont end well for Whisky. We lost our top receiver to a similar situation. Mario just let it slide as he should. More harm than good will come from this.
 
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It would be so on brand for all this to shake out he go to UF. I don’t think that happens but man, this fan base has but a lot of energy into this
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Because...that's not how universities operate.

No matter what, Xavier Lucas has to apply for admission to UM. It can be expedited. He can get preferential treatment that any student-athlete might get. But the process cannot and will not be "Mario asking Admissions to just admit Lucas".

And I'm not trying to be sarcastic here. I understand the question and I understand the concerns. We just have to do things the right way.
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Ironically, that would also be a better argument for tampering by Miami (since Lucas is not technically in the portal and we can't be in contact with him until he is).
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I don't believe they think they have leverage.

I believe they think they are making some big heroic Public Relations stink. This is the fundamental equivalent of UConn saying to the world "we know a bunch of schools are tampering and we know your names".

Looks like a lot of fun in the headlines. Accomplishes absolutely nothing.

But Wisconsin is sure as **** going to try to make us look bad in the meantime.
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Then they're even dumber than suspected. At least with UConn's situation, the "bad guys" in the PR ploy are (unnamed) coaches purportedly engaged in rules violations. In this case, the target is a teenage student athlete. They badly misread who the rest of America would consider the more sympathetic party.
 
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