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Wisconsin's last 4 recruiting classes

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Juancane said:
Thread Killa said:
Wisconsin recruiting classes

2017: 39th overall, 7th in the big ten, 2 4*s, 1 commit from FL

2016: 35th overall, 6th in the big ten, 3 4*s, 4 commits from FL

2015: 41st overall, 6th in the big ten, 1 4*, 1 commit from FL

2014: 32nd overall, 5th in the big ten, 2 4*s, 6 commits from FL


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Miami recruiting classes

2017: 12th overall, 2nd in the ACC, 10 4*s, 15 commits from FL

2016: 22nd overall, 3rd in the ACC, 9 4*s, 16 commits from FL

2015: 27th overall, 3rd in the ACC, 5 4*s, 14 commits from FL

2014: 12th overall, 2nd in the ACC, 1 5*, 7 4*s, 16 commits from FL





Stars matter GUYsm.

FL talent is the best GUYsm.

S FL 3*s are the best GUYsm.
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Should I put Clemson and alabamas classes here so you can see how gallactically stupid you are?
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Post it right next to LSU's and Troy's.
 

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Thread Killa said:
Should I post Pitt's last 4 classes?

Or is that on Rosier too?
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that pitt game was on rosier as well. he had guys running wide open and couldn't hit a single one. you cant win without decent qb play and rosier has thrown 14 or so picks in the last half of the year.
 
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Thread Killa said:
Should I post Pitt's last 4 classes?

Or is that on Rosier too?
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Miami is 20th in the 247 talent calculator, Pitt is 34th. That's a gap, but it's not an insane gap. That's about a tier difference. Do you honestly think an FCS QB isn't capable of mitigating a tier difference? That really isn't that difficult a concept to get.
 
Wisky also has 12 more scholarship players on the roster- Put 12 three stars on our roster and odds are you have 1 or 2 studs and 2 or 3 possible quality starters ,it makes a difference.
 
orange&green84 said:
Wiscy's got arguably the best coaching staff in the nation. They also focus on the trenches, particularly in development. Will be interesting to see if Paul Chryst leaves for another gig because Wiscy's hit their ceiling as a program.
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That's the honest difference.

We have watched everyone from the slow *** Big 10 to the high dollar loose rule interpreting $EC come in to our backyard and cherry pick some of the best skill and speed S. FLA has to offer.

If we don't start putting up a fight for some of their mauling gems in the trenches, and coach them up, it will remain standard business as usual.

UM
 
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Novacane32000 said:
Wisky also has 12 more scholarship players on the roster- Put 12 three stars on our roster and odds are you have 1 or 2 studs and 2 or 3 possible quality starters ,it makes a difference.
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And a lot of our 4* guys are due to the last class. We have 24 4* guys, 1 5* guy according to 247. 10 of those are true freshman.
 
brock said:
They don’t have Malik rosier playing qb, that’s the difference
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That’s horse****, brock. Malik is slightly worse than their QB. Slightly. And, when you consider the effectiveness of their OL...they may be equal. The difference is they had DB’s who could cover receivers better and a defense that COULD get off the field on third down - something they had been doing all season and something Miami has failed at all year.

Should/could Miami have won had Rosier not thrown multiple interceptions? Yes! No argument. But blaming Rosier when Miami’s defense should have stopped Wisconsin from scoring at least 2 touchdowns is just insane and myopic. Is that not the defense that you, brock, said (along with many others) was a top-5 defense?

Either Wisconsin has better talent or better coaches or both; but Miami lost this game for the same reason Miami struggled with teams all season long - an inability to get off the field on defense (and stay on the field on offense). Couple that with fewer turnovers and it’s a near-guaranteed “L”. This. Is. Coaching. ****, you even started a thread about the defense.

I’m not saying to fire anyone, but I am saying that drastic approaches towards OFFENSE, DEFENSE, SPECIAL TEAMS and STRENGTH & CONDITIONING must be on the table. Tackling, blocking and route-running must be re-taught! The choice has to be made: will Miami become the Wisconsin of the ACC where Miami learns to dominate it’s weaker division rivals and win the coastal yearly; or, is Miami going to be a perennial CFP power (Upholding the Miami legacy)?
 
Thread Killa said:
Juancane said:
Thread Killa said:
Wisconsin recruiting classes

2017: 39th overall, 7th in the big ten, 2 4*s, 1 commit from FL

2016: 35th overall, 6th in the big ten, 3 4*s, 4 commits from FL

2015: 41st overall, 6th in the big ten, 1 4*, 1 commit from FL

2014: 32nd overall, 5th in the big ten, 2 4*s, 6 commits from FL


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Miami recruiting classes

2017: 12th overall, 2nd in the ACC, 10 4*s, 15 commits from FL

2016: 22nd overall, 3rd in the ACC, 9 4*s, 16 commits from FL

2015: 27th overall, 3rd in the ACC, 5 4*s, 14 commits from FL

2014: 12th overall, 2nd in the ACC, 1 5*, 7 4*s, 16 commits from FL





Stars matter GUYsm.

FL talent is the best GUYsm.

S FL 3*s are the best GUYsm.
Click to expand...

Should I put Clemson and alabamas classes here so you can see how gallactically stupid you are?
Click to expand...

Post it right next to LSU's and Troy's.
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Holy crap you are an imbecile....
 
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Yes, recruiting rankings matter.

However, you can not use them wholesale as a marker for success. There is a lot that goes into rankings politically. This isn't new information, but seemingly always needs to be mentioned when this discussion comes up. You just can't have a blanket analysis with this because its not always an honest metric and is more self-fulfilling then an accurate measure.

Wisconsin recruits specific players to their scheme. Their recruiting base isn't filled with a ton of star-darlings and they cherry pick and evaluate strong athletes around the country to help supplement what they have available to them and then coach'em up. Look at where they supplement the few South Florida players they get...cornerback and WR. We have threads on this very forum touting South Florida 3* over 4* from around the country. Wisconsin is a prime example of a team that uses that mentality. They come down and pick up a few in just the right spots. So yeah, they have a ton of 3* players, but they coach'em up and have a very strong staff in place that develops them over the long haul. Their "next man up" is well developed.

Also, look at where their highest rated players are at lately...OL, DL, LB and an athlete or two. The strengths of their team. What athletes did damage against us? The highly rated ones...Danny Davis (4*), Jonathan Taylor (3* composite, but best RB in NJ), AJ Taylor (4*).

They have a good thing going up there. They'll never win a national title, but they will consistently be in that 5-10 range in the pre-season and by the end of the season annually and Chryst has proven to be a good coach come bowl time. They use those extra weeks of bowl prep well and it shows.

Last night showed that Miami might have more talent, but Miami's talent needs to be coached up a little more, too. Was a good learning experience for the team, surely.
 
Do we really have people in here blaming the coaching? I've been a big of a Malik guy that there is but there's no way around him being terrible last night. And you all brought up the Pitt game lol outside of the picks, he was even worse then so not sure what you're point is? Kosi or Jarren need to be ready to take the top spot for us to reach our full potential next year.
 
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The majority of their starters are Seniors. I think I heard 10 of 11 were on the D. That can make a huge difference.
 
They recruit well for what they do and they develop talent. Another factor is 10 of 11 of their starters on defense were seniors. That's crazy in today's college football. They've had their system in place for years and they do it well. Miami still building.
 
Horrible refs, qb not up to par, 3 best offensive weapons not there, dbs didn't play the ball and they played the best game they could. We lost wr get the **** over it and use it as motivation for next season. Respect to Wisconsin who I said already is one of the best coaching staffs getting the absolute most out of their players
 
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