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Ethnicsands

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To build this program from the dumps, the following is required: a HC who can

- schematically innovate in two ways: to leverage the kids we have access to and who other major programs are not targeting (think speed and attitude), and to present challenges to the style of play most major programs are running (think speed and spread in this climate);
- who can build a strong staff;
- who can leverage our local strengths;
- who can evaluate very well;
- and who can sell, sell, sell.

To maintain it when it is running solidly, the following is required: a HC who can

- evaluate and sell well;
- who has a credible schematic expertise;
- and who can maintain a talented staff.

Things that are sure signs a coach will not succeed at UM:

- Weak staff;
- mediocre evaluations;
- weak selling ability;
- ‘ceo’ who isn’t a football mind;
- guys whose system doesn’t fit what we can recruit locally;
- guys who won’t work with the type of kids that are our primary advantage (inner city, rough backgrounds)

Observations:
- Richt was an obvious fail, because he was hired based on some belief in CEO ability, but he signed up to be his own OC. That tension should have been an obvious disqualifier from the get go. No one would hire him as an offensive innovator or mind, and yet he couldn’t be hired for CEO ability (even if he has it) because his own stated intent was to double down on play calling, not program building. This entire experiment made no sense and is an indictment of the AD’s decision-making.
- None of our HCs since Butch were credible fits, not just in retrospect but going in. Golden’s approach didn’t fit our kids. Shannon couldnt and wouldn't recruit. Richt has ‘his way,’ and it ain’t Miami’s way. Clappy was Clappy and recruited off lists. None were schematically innovative. None build strng coaching trees / attracted top young staff.
 

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Miami's talent-base is a bit more upscale...but ultimately, what you are suggesting is Miami have a similar outlook to the Chip Kelly Era Oregon Ducks.

Considering Miami's problems competing nationally and even locally for elite talent...you're not wrong in this approach.

Having a schematic advantage and recruiting heavy on evaluations to unique players that fit your scheme is pretty much what needs to be done at this point and is exactly what Chip Kelly was doing at Oregon...albeit, without the player base that Miami has access to.
 
I rink better QB and O-line play alone can get us to 9-10 wins cause the Coastal sucks so bad.

I just don’t think we can ever get past that point unless things dramatically change with the scheme and play design going forward.
 
We had a good recruiting class last year and pulled some good O-lineman that Richt has gone out of his way to praise multiple times this year.

Again, lets see how the class shapes up before we start whining. The year was a failure on the offensive side of the ball and that is translating to O-side recruits. They all wanted in when we won 10 games.
 
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MizCane said:
We had a good recruiting class last year and pulled some good O-lineman that Richt has gone out of his way to praise multiple times this year.

Again, lets see how the class shapes up before we start whining. The year was a failure on the offensive side of the ball and that is translating to O-side recruits. They all wanted in when we won 10 games.
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Lol. Let’s see where the titanic settles at the bottom of the ocean before we conclude it’s sinking.
 
BoxingRobes said:
Miami's talent-base is a bit more upscale...but ultimately, what you are suggesting is Miami have a similar outlook to the Chip Kelly Era Oregon Ducks.

Considering Miami's problems competing nationally and even locally for elite talent...you're not wrong in this approach.

Having a schematic advantage and recruiting heavy on evaluations to unique players that fit your scheme is pretty much what needs to be done at this point and is exactly what Chip Kelly was doing at Oregon...albeit, without the player base that Miami has access to.
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What happened is we were able to recruit top kids because of our historical run, and we started to identify ourselves as traditional as a program. Heck, we aspired to be that. Combine it with the Admin seeing success as a reason to start squeezing the funnel to fewer kids with attitude and character concerns. Drop the image, church it up. We shrink our advantages, and hire caretakers or empty suits, and start going backwards, but we don’t change our situation analysis at all, and eventually we are irrelevant.

When we’re successful, we can for a period of time compete differently from what it took to get to the top. But it ends up being a losing game, because we can’t out resource the big programs, and we can’t keep great coaches.

It’s all irrelevant now because we either need a schematic innovator who can focus on overlooked local kids we can get with differentiated abilities, or we need 10 years of slow build and luck and prayers.

The @franchise rule says this program will be torn apart and eaten alive by hints and allegations unless it embraces it’s inner camo fatigue brashness and rough kid receptivity.
 
Ethnicsands said:
I disagree entirely. We have a structural problem. We might suck less with a good Oc, but 15 years of failure is telling you something, whether you choose to pay attention or not.
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If we bring in Yost or Briles or whoever and start dropping 50 bombs with an exciting offense, everything changes. We would have 2 innovative coordinators and while still wouldn’t land everyone, recruiting would improve drastically.
 
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Ethnicsands said:
I disagree entirely. We have a structural problem. We might suck less with a good Oc, but 15 years of failure is telling you something, whether you choose to pay attention or not.
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The structural problem is predicated solely on poor coaching. Good coaching wins football games. Good coaching, while winning said football games, brings elite recruits. Elite recruits, combined with good coaching, brings long-term success. Rinse. Repeat.

There's nothing wrong with the foundation here. Miami is who they are. A mid-tier spending school who has won in the past and will continue to win mainly because it's located in the epicenter of the most fertile recruiting ground the athletic world has ever known. That's it. Hire some good **** coaches, which is absolutely possible given the budget of the program, and watch what happens.

And as I said, to circle back to my original point, all stems from 1 guy. One. Guy. A competent offensive coordinator. Would every single negative the program encounters magically vanish? Of course not. There will still be hurdles and challenges, just like almost every other school in the country. But you've got Manny Diaz, provided you can hold onto him. You've got a Miami defense, with some halfway decent coaches on that side of the ball. But they all start with Manny. If you hire his counterpart on the offensive side, someone young, charismatic, energetic, EXCITING, innovative, aggressive.....trust me....these "systemic" problems will become a whole lot less apparent.
 
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Hurracanes said:
I no longer believe it is that simple. Richt is the issue. It starts at the top. I am accepting it more and more everyday.
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It's absolutely that simple. Do you see the defense? Why can't the offense be that good?

Now...one thing I will say and that I'll agree with you on, is that in order for it to be "this simple", Richt needs to back the eff away and let the guy do his job. If he hires Mike Bobo, or allowed Brown to call plays...something like that, then yes you're right, it's not that simple.

But as I said, if he hires Manny's counterpart and lets him do his job, yes, it's that simple.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
Exactly. I was going to throw some Bobo hate talk into my reply but u got ahead of that with the word "competent".
Jokes & complaints aside, if Richt doesn't hire one this offseason, he needs to retire the "I hate losing" speech.
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Don’t worry about Bobo. Terry Bowden was just fired from Akron. That’s who will be our next OC if CMR does hire one. Keep it all in the family.
 
OP stays writing novels!

Just hire an OC and maybe someone with a pulse on the OL to coach we are *******
 
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Who was the last assistant coach we’ve had that amounted to anything?

I mean is Jeff Stoutland the best we have? I’m drawing a blank.
 
TRick72 said:
Don’t worry about Bobo. Terry Bowden was just fired from Akron. That’s who will be our next OC if CMR does hire one. Keep it all in the family.
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Lol Holy. ****. Hadn't even thought of that one yet.
The one who was worrying me was the O-line coach just fired by SoCal. Cant think of his name right off. But he was Richt's OC before Bobo. Richt's former OC and he coaches O-line? I dont follow UGA closely enough to know how things ended for him. But he sure has "Searles replacement" written all over him!
 
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