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Waiver extends no cap on class sizes for this cycle

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OrangeBowlMagic said:
As many expected, the waiver to continue to allow schools to sign as many kids as they want for the upcoming class was approved. Only stipulation is you have to maintain at 85 total scholarships or less, but there is no cap at 25 per class this cycle.

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Just to be clear, because the dates are confusing, but we already had no cap for 2023-2024 (this current recruiting class) and it has been extended another year to the December 2024 and February 2025 signing cycle.

Interesting. As long as everybody (not counting Colorado) continues to behave like adults, this could become a permanent change.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Just to be clear, because the dates are confusing, but we already had no cap for 2023-2024 (this current recruiting class) and it has been extended another year to the December 2024 and February 2025 signing cycle.

Interesting. As long as everybody (not counting Colorado) continues to behave like adults, this could become a permanent change.
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Absolutely no reason why it shouldn’t be permanent.
 
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GojiraCane said:
The side effect will be a lot of new coaches coming into teams and absolutely purging their rosters.
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Example: Colorado

Even if it is not a new coach, the concern is that coaches will over sign every year and either grey shirt kids and/or push out kids they would have otherwise kept. They will also push out kids to make room for transfers. I don't have an issue with a coach being frank with a kid and letting them know they probably arent going to play and might want to consider transferring, but they are going force out a lot more kids (potentially ones that would have played) now b/c they dont have to worry about running out of counters to replace them with better folks.

On the flipside, now that kids can transfer so easily, the coaches (particularly from 'lessor' programs) need to be able to have enough counters to replace the additional kids who are leaving.

It's a chicken or egg thing though as allowing kids to transfer means that teams need to be able to backfill them if they do, but by allowing teams to take unlimited kids each year (including transfers) it encourages both the kids to transfer and the coaches to seek transfers.
 
GojiraCane said:
The side effect will be a lot of new coaches coming into teams and absolutely purging their rosters.
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troyskiles said:
Correct. They would probably do this anyway, if needed.
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What I mean is that Deion becomes more of the rule, and not the exception. You'll see future coaches bringing in 70-75 transfer portal players (or more), vastly increasing the pool of kids who are forced to go into the portal. And many with no destination. And the optics of that will lead to the 25 man limit being restored.
 
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Shogungts said:
Example: Colorado

Even if it is not a new coach, the concern is that coaches will over sign every year and either grey shirt kids and/or push out kids they would have otherwise kept. They will also push out kids to make room for transfers. I don't have an issue with a coach being frank with a kid and letting them know they probably arent going to play and might want to consider transferring, but they are going force out a lot more kids (potentially ones that would have played) now b/c they dont have to worry about running out of counters to replace them with better folks.

On the flipside, now that kids can transfer so easily, the coaches (particularly from 'lessor' programs) need to be able to have enough counters to replace the additional kids who are leaving.

It's a chicken or egg thing though as allowing kids to transfer means that teams need to be able to backfill them if they do, but by allowing teams to take unlimited kids each year (including transfers) it encourages both the kids to transfer and the coaches to seek transfers.
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In theory, it creates the following model...

1) Expansive, privately owned company funds a school's NIL program to the tune of $75M or more a year, enabling them to outbid everyone
2) Affected school no longer recruits high schools at all
3) The school only goes after 3rd or 4th year players. They're Dan Snyder's K-State on steroids, HGH, and every other theoretical PED. Every year they go after the top 85 seniors. They create an all-star team. Need a quarterback? Go get Caleb Williams for $12M for a single season. Or more. Whatever it takes to outbid USC. Need an offensive lineman - go bid against Alabama and watch them struggle to match. Everyone signing is there for just one year. They're all on one year contracts.
4) Repeat the same process the following year, and the following year, and the following year. All of college football becomes the farm system for this team, whoever it is.
 
GojiraCane said:
In theory, it creates the following model...

1) Expansive, privately owned company funds a school's NIL program to the tune of $75M or more a year, enabling them to outbid everyone
2) Affected school no longer recruits high schools at all
3) The school only goes after 3rd or 4th year players. They're Dan Snyder's K-State on steroids, HGH, and every other theoretical PED. Every year they go after the top 85 seniors. They create an all-star team. Need a quarterback? Go get Caleb Williams for $12M for a single season. Or more. Whatever it takes to outbid USC. Need an offensive lineman - go bid against Alabama and watch them struggle to match. Everyone signing is there for just one year. They're all on one year contracts.
4) Repeat the same process the following year, and the following year, and the following year. All of college football becomes the farm system for this team, whoever it is.
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That only works if the 3rd/4th year players haven’t transferred, graduated, or the ncaa removes those limits.
 
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We win Friday night and I get to watch Primetime get BUTT****** UP AND DOWN THE FIELD AT HIGH NOON
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
As many expected, the waiver to continue to allow schools to sign as many kids as they want for the upcoming class was approved. Only stipulation is you have to maintain at 85 total scholarships or less, but there is no cap at 25 per class this cycle.

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Deion Sanders Rule!
 
GojiraCane said:
In theory, it creates the following model...

1) Expansive, privately owned company funds a school's NIL program to the tune of $75M or more a year, enabling them to outbid everyone
2) Affected school no longer recruits high schools at all
3) The school only goes after 3rd or 4th year players. They're Dan Snyder's K-State on steroids, HGH, and every other theoretical PED. Every year they go after the top 85 seniors. They create an all-star team. Need a quarterback? Go get Caleb Williams for $12M for a single season. Or more. Whatever it takes to outbid USC. Need an offensive lineman - go bid against Alabama and watch them struggle to match. Everyone signing is there for just one year. They're all on one year contracts.
4) Repeat the same process the following year, and the following year, and the following year. All of college football becomes the farm system for this team, whoever it is.
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Interesting points. And it’s par for the course for all college sports, especially football, which lost its amateurism a long time ago but is now basically like a semi-pro league. Not an old head complaining, it’s just what it’s become and where it’s going. As we all know, just way too much money and popularity to not go in that direction.
 
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