UM and President Shalala will have a very difficult decision

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to make if UM wins the ACC coastal side of the division because do we ban ourselves from another bowl(including the ACC title game)since I think we have to decide on the ban before we play the title game. Unless, we get a NOA from the NCAA before the season is over and Shalala knows what to expect, I would much rather take another bowl ban now than in future years when we are a much better team. I am obviously assuming we will get another one either way from the NCAA since that the prognosis is not expected to be very good at this point as far as UM skating through this with little punishment. Thoughts?
 
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to make if UM wins the ACC coastal side of the division because do we ban ourselves from another bowl(including the ACC title game)since I think we have to decide on the ban before we play the title game. Unless, we get a NOA from the NCAA before the season is over and Shalala knows what to expect, I would much rather take another bowl ban now than in future years when we are a much better team. I am obviously assuming we will get another one either way from the NCAA since that the prognosis is not expected to be very good at this point as far as UM skating through this with little punishment. Thoughts?

i'm not sure how this is a shalala decision. right now it's a blake james decision.
 
If they decide to self impose another post season ban while winning the coastal, there will be a gigantic media **** storm.


I don't believe it would be warranted (I'm mixed on the options), but still.
 
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nothing difficult about it. **** yes, and it's over and done with. No need to drag it out for years to come
 
to make if UM wins the ACC coastal side of the division because do we ban ourselves from another bowl(including the ACC title game)since I think we have to decide on the ban before we play the title game. Unless, we get a NOA from the NCAA before the season is over and Shalala knows what to expect, I would much rather take another bowl ban now than in future years when we are a much better team. I am obviously assuming we will get another one either way from the NCAA since that the prognosis is not expected to be very good at this point as far as UM skating through this with little punishment. Thoughts?

i'm not sure how this is a shalala decision. right now it's a blake james decision.


I maybe wrong, but there's a herlad article that states that they're gonna make this decision together.
 
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If it happens then it is a very bad sign for coming sanctions.

this is the obvious answer. we could have self imposed from week 1 but did not. that suggests that they did not deem it appropriate. at this point some 8 weeks later I doubt there is new news for them to change their minds.

it would be a colossal mind **** for the team to ban them from the ACC champ game
 
We can self impose and still have the NCAA ***** us with more bans. So ***** it. Go for acc championship
 
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nothing difficult about it. **** yes, and it's over and done with. No need to drag it out for years to come


Doesn't work that way. Don't know why people have it in their heads that it does.

Anything we self-impose counts towards whatever the NCAA comes down with.

No. It doesn't.

The NCAA takes it into consideration when levying punishment. That's it.

Exactly. So if they wanted to give two, but we we've given up two what do you think happens?
 
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We are not a good team and this is a chance to burn off another penalty during a down, rebuilding year. Tee it up for 2014.
 
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Doesn't work that way. Don't know why people have it in their heads that it does.

Anything we self-impose counts towards whatever the NCAA comes down with.

No. It doesn't.

The NCAA takes it into consideration when levying punishment. That's it.

Exactly. So if they want to give two, but we we've given up two what do you think happens?

It depends. If we're looking at major sanctions, they might tack a post season ban on, regardless of what we''ve done. If they aren't, there's no guarantee that self imposing again will lessen any scholarship reductions.


Once again, the NCAA doesn't say, " well, we were going to give you a two year ban, but since you already took it, you're cool."

COMO? So they say, " we think you deserve two years, so **** your two years; here's two more?

They don't say well, we were going to give you a year postseason ban plus 16 over 4, but, since you took two years of your own accord, we're just going to give you 12 over 3.

Nobody is really saying it work likes that. The argument for-- and mind you I haven't declared my own position on this-- is about spreading the sanctions around instead of taking a lump sum on the chin. IF, I have to take 2 Post-season bans and X schollies over Z years i'd rather have a part of it out of the way if I can.
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Doesn't work like that. The NCAA takes it "into consideration" when deciding punishment. Lots of examples of schools surprised by the NCAA adding additional punishment onto self imposed sanctions.
That just means that NCAA's punishment was greater than what the institution self-imposed.

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If they are going to self-sanction a bowl ban...they need to make that decision after our sixth win...not after we've won the Coastal.
 
I'm okay with Miami foregoing the ACC title game and bowl game.

I'm also okay with them not self-imposing again.
 
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