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Dghustla

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What most of us saw last night is a replica of what UF will try to do this season. They are a down hill running team. With a very limited passing game and a QB who can make plays with his feet. And we saw what can happen, when you can't stop the run, don't tackle well and can't punch the ball in once you get to the redzone. The biggest difference between us and UNC is our Oline. They also had some bad play calling in the redzone (running Renner??) but that's for another thread. It's been said 1,000,000x WE absolutely must force UF to throw the ball. We must match physicality and play with a high level of intensity but play smart and not give up penalties. UNC never looked like they wanted a fight. Their demeanor to me seemed like that of a preseason game.
 
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Dghustla said:
What most of us saw last night is a replica of what UF will try to do this season. They are a down hill running team. With a very limited passing game and a QB who can make plays with his feet. And we saw what can happen, when you can't stop the run, don't tackle well and can't punch the ball in once you get to the redzone. The biggest difference between us and UNC is our Oline. They also had some bad play calling in the redzone (running Renner??) but that's for another thread. It's been said 1,000,000x WE absolutely must force UF to throw the ball. We must match physicality and play with a high level of intensity but play smart and not give up penalties. UNC never looked like they wanted a fight. Their demeanor to me seemed like that of a preseason game.
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I can did that, Sucka. Spot on my man IMO. We supposedly have the size now to matchup. Enough talking, we need to do some walking.
 
agreed. Stopping the run is crucial vs U***, but we must play well against FAU first.

One game at a time.
 
UNC's DLine is worse than ours last year... Yes I said that....

Now lets hope our DLine is better than ours last year....
 
Trick to stopping the run vs. read option: the Defensive End on the QB read has to DRILL the QB whether he has the ball or not. Hit him and hit him hard.
 
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Similar offenses but like it or not Florida has more talent than South Carolina. Its going to be a very tough game to win but I think we can do it.
 
ESPN is hyping USCE of course saying it was a blowout. Since when was beating someone by 17 a blowout? I thought 21 or 28 points is a blowout.
 
HeHateMe said:
Trick to stopping the run vs. read option: the Defensive End on the QB read has to DRILL the QB whether he has the ball or not. Hit him and hit him hard.
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There isn't one key to defending the read-option. We'll talk more about it going into UF week, I'm sure.
 
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pcitycane said:
Similar offenses but like it or not Florida has more talent than South Carolina. Its going to be a very tough game to win but I think we can do it.
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This.

UF definitely has a better defense than USCe. We'll need to run the ball effectively to get our play action game going. Hopefully our OL can run block against a good defense because we couldn't run the ball for **** against anybody worth a **** last season.
 
HeHateMe said:
Trick to stopping the run vs. read option: the Defensive End on the QB read has to DRILL the QB whether he has the ball or not. Hit him and hit him hard.
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That's not the trick. I know the NFL Network or whatever SportsCenter it was had a thing with the Ravens and they said that's what the plan is, but the actual way to stop it is easy. (Been doing the read-option in Canada before the new millenia, three down football forces you to be real creative offensively)
The most effective way to the to do it is by doing a sub and replace. With this the unblocked end simply knife down the LOS while the backside LB becomes your contain guy.
So you're more or less messing with the QBs read and you now know the QB SHOULD keep it and have the LB (who are generally you're most sure tacklers) take on a QB and I would take that match-up all day.
 
Arehel said:
HeHateMe said:
Trick to stopping the run vs. read option: the Defensive End on the QB read has to DRILL the QB whether he has the ball or not. Hit him and hit him hard.
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That's not the trick. I know the NFL Network or whatever SportsCenter it was had a thing with the Ravens and they said that's what the plan is, but the actual way to stop it is easy. (Been doing the read-option in Canada before the new millenia, three down football forces you to be real creative offensively)
The most effective way to the to do it is by doing a sub and replace. With this the unblocked end simply knife down the LOS while the backside LB becomes your contain guy.
So you're more or less messing with the QBs read and you now know the QB SHOULD keep it and have the LB (who are generally you're most sure tacklers) take on a QB and I would take that match-up all day.
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You keep hitting the qb, they stop running that play.
 
UF is more talented than South CArolina but We're infinitely more talented and better coached than UNC.
 
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SrfGtr said:
UNC's DLine is worse than ours last year... Yes I said that....

Now lets hope our DLine is better than ours last year....
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USCe's O-line also had an average of 50 lbs on UNC's D-line. That won't be the case with us this year, as long as Porter, Pierre, Renfrow and Robinson stay healthy and contribute.
 
HeHateMe said:
Trick to stopping the run vs. read option: the Defensive End on the QB read has to DRILL the QB whether he has the ball or not. Hit him and hit him hard.
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That is how we destroyed the OU wisbone forever. Tackle everyone whether whey have the ball or not especially the qb. Troy had to transfer to UCLA after we snapped his little leg. Everyone has a man and hits him with or without the ball. If you chase the ball the option will kill you. Good news is that Al knows how to stop the option -- bad news is we have trouble tackling QB running up the middle of field.
 
Arehel said:
HeHateMe said:
Trick to stopping the run vs. read option: the Defensive End on the QB read has to DRILL the QB whether he has the ball or not. Hit him and hit him hard.
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That's not the trick. I know the NFL Network or whatever SportsCenter it was had a thing with the Ravens and they said that's what the plan is, but the actual way to stop it is easy. (Been doing the read-option in Canada before the new millenia, three down football forces you to be real creative offensively)
The most effective way to the to do it is by doing a sub and replace. With this the unblocked end simply knife down the LOS while the backside LB becomes your contain guy.
So you're more or less messing with the QBs read and you now know the QB SHOULD keep it and have the LB (who are generally you're most sure tacklers) take on a QB and I would take that match-up all day.
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I believe that's called "gap exchange." Alabama does it with all sorts of combinations. Stanford does it, too. We have to be strong enough inside to do it well. Then we have to get athletes to cover the exchange.
 
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USC looked physically beat before the delay, the delay served them well. The fast pace of UNC and the numerous substitution violations would have worked in UNC's favor as the game wore on. Some real bozo calls by UNC though, and their running backs in no way replace Giovanni. The Tar Heels look to be a key game for the Canes - but we'll have to respond well to that fast pace, if we can keep the Heels offense off the field it will be a big help. That said, I'm thinking Canes are in much better physical shape this year so the right combination of controlling the ball and being more physically fit could put UNC in a tough spot forcing a lot of passes, Renner's good, I hope our D is up to the challenge. Think I might pick up some tickets to this game.
 
If ****sickle is still a lil banged up from surgery then you crack him in his teeth every time till he doesn't get up. That will stop their read option and after awhile he will start handing off or pitching every play cause he doesn't want to get hit anymore. Any chance you get to hit a QB clean you take it.
 
Well if it were that easy San Francisco would have stopped doing it... But I do agree with another poster who said treat it liek the wisbone. The only issue is when doign the Paul Johnson style option, you're very commited to running and running only and thus your back 4 or 5 don't have to worry as much about the pass.
It is not easy to defend.
 
UNC's defense was small and did not play particularly fast.
They were also pretty undisciplined.
On that long td run by SC's very average rb Davis, the UNC safety looked like Telemaque, which means completely out of his assignment.

Our front seven is NFL sized right now. I'm not saying they are all NFL players, just that their size and strength is comparable.
From our team's S&C numbers we would have dominated the 2013 Combine with something like 5 guys in the top 10 in the bench numbers, including the #1 guy.

The key thing from our coaches mouths I've gleaned from training camp is that our defense finally understands their assignments.
The coaches say that the defense makes very few mental errors now.
Last year it seemed that on every play we had 5 guys in the right assignment and 6 freelancing or overrunning their assignment.

We may not be great, heck we may just be average on defense this year.
But I think when you combine size, strength,speed, concept awareness and finally the discipline to attack as a team instead of individuals, then you have the components to be pretty good if not great.
 
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