Some names to watch before it’s deleted

[Rickd]

Mario mentioned him as the DC in his signing day press conference and again this morning on the radio supposedly. Plus Steele facetimed with Stewart last Tuesday prior to signing day. None of those things happen if he did not already sign his contract especially the facetiming with a recruit. So not sure why Ferman other than being weeks behind on info would think he has not already signed his contract. Plus no coach contract requires over a week to negotiate.

Steele was recruiting at Maryland and had not signed a contract. Doubt that Chris Lowe really knows anything about "a contract signing" .. more likely simply that Steele agreed to take the job and flew to Miami. With the Auburn upheaval and Steele's history with that program .. it could very well be that he had not signed .. pending a resolution to the Auburn HC situation. A lot of alums want Steele .. and quite a few prefer Freeze. No doubt if Freeze would consider Steele as DC on his staff (an Auburn guy stated that SOME fans believe Steele waged a campaign for the HC job and undermined Gus .. so most likely would NOT be invited back as a DC under a new HC). Drama.

 

[The U is back to work]

Is Rodney Garner leaving TENN to be a DE coach? And is Joe S OK just being DT coach?

 

[Go Canes!!]

88 drops from Herbert’s receivers over the course of his career… but let me guess that doesn’t matter either?

Every QB has drops. Regardless, thats an average of two per start. Doesn't seem earth shattering to me.

Broken down further, he averaged 8.2 yards a completion for his career. 22 drops per year equals a total of about 180 yards more passing per season, just under 13 yards a game his senior season.

Doesn't exactly vault him into Heisman contention.

 

[Deleted member 16870]

Every QB has drops. Regardless, thats an average of two per start. Doesn't seem earth shattering to me.

Broken down further, he averaged 8.2 yards a completion for his career. 22 drops per year equals a total of about 180 yards more passing per season, just under 13 yards a game his senior season.

Doesn't exactly vault him into Heisman contention.

lmaooooo doesn’t work like that.

That’s asssuming those drops were spread out evenly over 4 years, which they weren’t.

 

[Cookie917]

Every QB has drops. Regardless, thats an average of two per start. Doesn't seem earth shattering to me.

Broken down further, he averaged 8.2 yards a completion for his career. 22 drops per year equals a total of about 180 yards more passing per season, just under 13 yards a game his senior season.

Doesn't exactly vault him into Heisman contention.

I mean is the argument about Herbert that Mario had the wrong offense around him and he should be throwing it 40+ times a game?

Like his stats weren't bad. Senior year he went 286/428 (66.8%) 3,471 yards, 32 td-6int. That is an average of 30 throws per game. In his college career he had over 10,500 yards a 65% completion rate and 95TDs to 23 INT.

COmparing his senior year to the most recent year with the chargers, he went 443/672 (65%) 5,014 yds (less YPC than in college) 38 td-15 int. BUT this is obviously in 17 games. He did average 9 more attempts per game than in college so is that the complaint?

**** his senior year he only lost 2 games. The opener to Auburn by 6 points when the D collapsed and gave up 14 unanswered points in the 4th qt. and the head scratcher 3 point loss to Ariz state where again the D gave up 18 4th qt points, Herbert was off that game as well going 20-36 with 2 td but also 2 pics.

 

[Go Canes!!]

lmaooooo doesn’t work like that.

That’s asssuming those drops were spread out evenly over 4 years, which they weren’t.

Then you should have broken them down by year.

 

[Redstate12]

Dumb question here, but I thought on field coaches weren't allowed to coach kids until the spring?

Only SC staff was allowed to train them face to face.

What is happening here?

I asked the same thing and got murdered. Never did get a solid answer. Mirabal clearly in a photo.

 

[brock]

Dumb question here, but I thought on field coaches weren't allowed to coach kids until the spring?

Only SC staff was allowed to train them face to face.

What is happening here?

Not exactly true, they can be present during the 4th quarter work out. Remember richt did this with the mat drills etc when he was there right before spring ball

 

[hollyhood27]

I asked the same thing and got murdered. Never did get a solid answer. Mirabal clearly in a photo.

They are allowed to help with conditioning. There can't be a ball out there right now.

 

[pacusmc]

They are allowed to help with conditioning. There can't be a ball out there right now.

Nobody said a **** thing when coaches were out during Matt drills but Mirabal in a photo during 4th qtr program and now dudes acting like snitches out here.
A lot of dudes are sus AF out here as cane fans.

 

[COCane4Life]

Is Rodney Garner leaving TENN to be a DE coach? And is Joe S OK just being DT coach?

It would basically work just like Mario and Mirabal working with the Oline together. There’s nothing more important tha n the trenches having two vets working with those guys would be amazing. Together they shouldn’t miss much.

 

[Go Canes!!]

I mean is the argument about Herbert that Mario had the wrong offense around him and he should be throwing it 40+ times a game?

Like his stats weren't bad. Senior year he went 286/428 (66.8%) 3,471 yards, 32 td-6int. That is an average of 30 throws per game. In his college career he had over 10,500 yards a 65% completion rate and 95TDs to 23 INT.

COmparing his senior year to the most recent year with the chargers, he went 443/672 (65%) 5,014 yds (less YPC than in college) 38 td-15 int. BUT this is obviously in 17 games. He did average 9 more attempts per game than in college so is that the complaint?

**** his senior year he only lost 2 games. The opener to Auburn by 6 points when the D collapsed and gave up 14 unanswered points in the 4th qt. and the head scratcher 3 point loss to Ariz state where again the D gave up 18 4th qt points, Herbert was off that game as well going 20-36 with 2 td but also 2 pics.

TVD threw for 29 TDs and 3000 yards in his first 8 games as a freshman. It took Herbert 14 starts to get to similar stats.

The reality is In today's game, for an elite, top 5 NFL type pick QB, Herbert's numbers were fairly pedestrian.

 

[Zalen123]

Some talk about Rodney Garner as DE coach. on Rivals....

Seem like there are a few option being looked at - defensive positions hinge on Steele being finalized

Ferman mentioned he heard Steele is in the building. Not sure if he has signed anything yet or not...

Bring me Garner

Rodney Garner All Time Recruits

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HE IS A CLOSER

 

[Cookie917]

TVD threw for 29 TDs and 3000 yards in his first 8 games as a freshman. It took Herbert 14 starts to get to similar stats.

The reality is In today's game, for an elite, top 5 NFL type pick QB, Herbert's numbers were fairly pedestrian.

Yes and TVD was only like 1/2 players to EVER put up those numbers, him and I think burrow who crushed records on his way to 5,600 yards and 60 TDS in ONE season, any other college QB looks pedestrian next to that.

And for reference that year, Burrow was obviously top QB and he threw it 100 times more (basically 5 more attempts a game). Herbert however did throw more than Sam Howell, Trevor Lawerence, and Justin Fields.

 

[Mikesmith29150]

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest...em-oregon-football-noticing-difference-inside Oregon had 52 dropped passes in 2018 season

 

[Da Jumbo Mutombo]

What do we think about Travis Trickett as QB coach?

 

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Bring me Garner

Rodney Garner All Time Recruits

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HE IS A CLOSER

That's an unreal list.

 

[pacusmc]

TVD threw for 29 TDs and 3000 yards in his first 8 games as a freshman. It took Herbert 14 starts to get to similar stats.

The reality is In today's game, for an elite, top 5 NFL type pick QB, Herbert's numbers were fairly pedestrian.

A lot of times it isn’t all about stats. Herbert is a prototype nfl qb in terms of his body type and arm talent.
He also had good numbers.
Can you really say that Tyson Campbell had 1st round corner stats or film?
Some dude move way up in the draft after the combine despite having pedestrian stats.

 

[423Hurricane]

Every QB has drops. Regardless, thats an average of two per start. Doesn't seem earth shattering to me.

Broken down further, he averaged 8.2 yards a completion for his career. 22 drops per year equals a total of about 180 yards more passing per season, just under 13 yards a game his senior season.

Doesn't exactly vault him into Heisman contention.

Career[24]	29−14	813	1,273	63.9	10,541	8.2	95	22	153.7	75.0	231	560	2.4	13
Cmp	Att	Pct	Yards	Avg	TD	Int	Rate	QBR	Att	Yds	Avg	TD
Season	Record	Passing	Rushing
2016	2−6	162	255	63.5	1,936	7.6	19	4	148.8	73.9	58	161	2.8	2
2017	6−2	139	206	67.5	1,983	9.6	15	5	167.5	80.1	44	183	4.2	5
2018	9−4	240	404	59.4	3,151	7.8	29	8	144.7	72.2	71	166	2.3	2
2019	12−2	286	428	66.8	3,471	8.1	32	5	158.7	74.1	58	50	0.9	4

Awards and honors​

Just for context. And he also won the academic Heisman.

 

[Mikesmith29150]

https://fishduck.com/2020/02/three-returning-ducks-primed-to-break-out/ In 2019 they lead the Pac12 in drops. Even though they had 20 less drops than the year before. So the drops Mario is talking about is over a 2 year span.