Some Interesting info on Jake Fromm's recruit or lack of

[Bennubird]

Richt missed out on quite a few in-state studs, more as he got further away from 2012, which was very disheartening to UGA fans as other SEC teams & FSU/Clemson would cherry-pick the state.

LoL - he did literally miss out on QB Cam Newton (pretty sure he recruited him as a TE), DeShaun Watson and a host of guys that were bought by SEC bag-men like Robert Nkemdiche (sp) while still picking up a good number of talented players.

I am not obsessed with linking Richt's past failures to his current tenure. I will not be blind to his faults, but I am encouraged by the direction of the program and appreciate his genuine care for these young men

Well said. Was about to post that Coach isn't above criticism for some of the really good players from GA he either passed on or could not land at UGA. However, the fact that he jettisoned the young man from IMG and got Williams should be very encouraging to Canes.

 

[Jude Jettson]

CMR lacking confidence? He's a master ****-smith.

Also the way he stacked talent at RB consistently year after year puts Fromm's Dad's argument to bed. Maybe he did evaluate incorrectly, but Fromm wasn't withheld an offer because he is a stud and they just landed Eason. Maybe CMR just plain old ****ed up, he is human. Fromm's dad just comes off as a salty UGA fan who was ****ed his head coach overlooked his son.

 

[Salt]

“At the end of the day, who knows? Maybe they just thought the other guy was better? I think they were wrong. But, at the same time, that’s my opinion. But it looks to me they were pretty obviously wrong.”

Yep. Hard to imagine that if Fromm showed them this kind of interest that Richt would not try to recruit him. Maybe Richt evaluated wrong but it doesn't sound like a lack of confidence. Sounds like dad is a bit miffed and is taking it personal.

 

[deleted16355]

FWIW, saw some UGA guys discussing this article and they mentioned it was Brian Schottenheimer that did not want him and Richt deferred to his opinion.

 

[AUcane]

Richt missed out on quite a few in-state studs, more as he got further away from 2012, which was very disheartening to UGA fans as other SEC teams & FSU/Clemson would cherry-pick the state.

LoL - he did literally miss out on QB Cam Newton (pretty sure he recruited him as a TE), DeShaun Watson and a host of guys that were bought by SEC bag-men like Robert Nkemdiche (sp) while still picking up a good number of talented players.

I am not obsessed with linking Richt's past failures to his current tenure. I will not be blind to his faults, but I am encouraged by the direction of the program and appreciate his genuine care for these young men

Well said. Was about to post that Coach isn't above criticism for some of the really good players from GA he either passed on or could not land at UGA. However, the fact that he jettisoned the young man from IMG and got Williams should be very encouraging to Canes.

He did, but he held on to Sitz for WAY too long, imo. What if Sitz had an average year rather than the colossal flop he had? Don't you think Sitz would still be our guy? I think that combined with the Fromm stuff and what Brooklyn has stated show you that Richt isn't as involved in the QB recruiting as you think (Fromm and Sitz/Williams stuff says so) and that's a bit alarming to me. Also of note is Richt's apparent criticism at UGA that while he did sign really good classes, he often struck out at the most important positions - quarterback and linemen.

 

[The Franchise]

Anyone who puts too much stock in what a salty daddy says is dopey. Might not have been a great idea not to offer Fromm, but maybe Rick would have offered him if he didn’t get fired. Maybe he would have signed someone better. Who knows? But to listen to a jilted daddy’s speculation is goofy.

 

[The Franchise]

Rick wasn’t too afraid of talent to sign the 2 guys who carried that offense while Fromm threw 5 yard outs. He wasn’t also too scared to recruit that LB who is the best player on their team and one of the best players I’ve seen in the country this year. They don’t have him, and OU beats UGA.

 

[Bennubird]

Richt missed out on quite a few in-state studs, more as he got further away from 2012, which was very disheartening to UGA fans as other SEC teams & FSU/Clemson would cherry-pick the state.

LoL - he did literally miss out on QB Cam Newton (pretty sure he recruited him as a TE), DeShaun Watson and a host of guys that were bought by SEC bag-men like Robert Nkemdiche (sp) while still picking up a good number of talented players.

I am not obsessed with linking Richt's past failures to his current tenure. I will not be blind to his faults, but I am encouraged by the direction of the program and appreciate his genuine care for these young men

Well said. Was about to post that Coach isn't above criticism for some of the really good players from GA he either passed on or could not land at UGA. However, the fact that he jettisoned the young man from IMG and got Williams should be very encouraging to Canes.

He did, but he held on to Sitz for WAY too long, imo. What if Sitz had an average year rather than the colossal flop he had? Don't you think Sitz would still be our guy? I think that combined with the Fromm stuff and what Brooklyn has stated show you that Richt isn't as involved in the QB recruiting as you think (Fromm and Sitz/Williams stuff says so) and that's a bit alarming to me. Also of note is Richt's apparent criticism at UGA that while he did sign really good classes, he often struck out at the most important positions - quarterback and linemen.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I'm not alarmed about our QB situation. What you say is true about Richt and Fromm in a given context; Fromm's dad has a bone to pick with Richt's staff for having chosen another player over his son. So, I kind of take that with a grain of salt. And I'm not knocking Fromm, he's a great young QB. And I have already conceded that Richt really missed on Watson, who threw for 13,077 yards in high school. No excuse for that.

As far as our QBs, I too was concerned we were even interested in Sitz based on his HS performance, but I understood the logic behind Richt's interest because of Sitz's size and performance on the camp circuit. HS QBs who don't throw for 13,000 plus yards can be hard to project going forward and almost all of them usually commit early, so our staff bit on Sitz and then waited to see how it would play out after he suited up for IMG. I'm going to assume they did not ignore his HS numbers, but that they did like many here and assumed he would be better with better talent around him. In the end, they kept in touch with Williams, Sitz turned out to be who we (CIS) thought he was, and the staff let him go and got Williams to sign, which you should not discount or dismiss because that's huge. So, for now, I'm not alarmed about the QB position though the recruiting process wasn't as smooth as we would have liked. And, I'll add that I did not see or don't remember Brooklyn's comments.

I am concerned that this cycle we would also get difference makers on the OL and DL. We got better on the OL, but we still need to shore up the interior of our DL.

 

[kplantz24]

I'd still like to know why Richt had no interest in Justin Fields. That one's a mystery to me.

From what I read, the kid didnt have much interest in UM. I do understand it's their job to make him have interest

 

[miamian01]

Mike Bobo

 

[Fightinibis]

https://247sports.com/Article/Jake-...orgia-was-a-no-brainer-his-dad-says-113161293

this from Fromm's dad

So why didn’t Fromm just commit to Georgia in the first place?

Well, because he didn’t have an offer from Mark Richt and the previous Bulldogs staff. Fromm, the No. 44 overall player and the No. 3 overall pro-style passer in the 2017 cycle per the 247Sports Composite, never drew a ton of interest from his home state school.

“Richt just didn’t want him,” Emerson Fromm said. “It’s just that simple. They had another fellow in mind (Bailey Hockman) and that’s the direction they wanted to go. That was an eye-opener for Jake in life. Sometimes, you just don’t get what you want. You just have to make the best of what you got.”

As for why that was, Emerson can only speculate.

Fromm was a record-setting passer at Warner Robins High School. But the Bulldogs had landed five-star passer Jacob Eason the year before. To Emerson, who rooted for Richt throughout his tenure at Georgia, it meant the Bulldogs didn’t want to risk going after a second highly-touted passer in two years.

“I’ll be honest with you,” he said. “I don’t think they were confident recruiters. If they had a five-star ahead of you, the odds are the following year it’d be a three-star and it’d go back and forth. I don’t think they had the confidence. Their mindset was, there’s no way that we’re getting back-to-back-to-back five-stars and they just didn’t think they could get (Jake).

“At the end of the day, who knows? Maybe they just thought the other guy was better? I think they were wrong. But, at the same time, that’s my opinion. But it looks to me they were pretty obviously wrong.”

the rest of the article is pretty interesting as well as he goes into detail how Saban recruits and how Smart is doing what he's doing at UGA.

Some of this was observed back when richt was hired.

By that logic, Richt would have gone after an inferior QB after signing Perry last year. Instead, he signed an arguably better QB in Williams. This sounds like sour grapes.

Sour grapes? The kid ended up at UGA anyway and has carried them to MNC with Richt's players. Just saying.

Bottom line, Im sure pops and his kid wanted to play for Richt, but I doubt he is shedding any tears about it now.

UM

 

[jackbenimble71]

His dad is an ***. Worse than lavar ball. Yes he is ****ed richt recruited hockman over his son. Now he walks around with a chip on his shoulder like I told yall ****ers. His son would have rode the bench for at least 3 yrs at bama. Gis son walked into a perfect situation and got lucky. His son has 2 tbs who are doing all the work. Shows how low class his dad his to ahow his bitterness.

I will see his dad at the cfp game Monday. Trust me, I will be a smart *** to him. This article and gis statements have already ****ed off lot of boosters

 

[Calinative]

I mean Fromm was solid, but its not like he was some great Freshman starting QB, like we've seen the past few years with Watson, Goff, Rosen, etc, etc. The fact is he has the best run game in the country to work with.

I'd definitely bet that Eason could have done better.

 

[moshated305]

Fields wasnt never coming here lol Never showed the slightest interest in Miami. And as far as Fromm, Richt was gone during his Junior Year. How do we know Richt wouldn't have had interest during his spring evals? Pretty unfair to judge a guy for not showing strong interest in a kid as Soph. It's not like Fromm has been setting the world on fire either. He's a nice little QB in a perelfect situation where all he has to do is not lose a game. What happened when Auburn took their run game away? He couldn't do **** himself.

 

[PSU Cane]

His dad is an ***. Worse than lavar ball. Yes he is ****ed richt recruited hockman over his son. Now he walks around with a chip on his shoulder like I told yall ****ers. His son would have rode the bench for at least 3 yrs at bama. Gis son walked into a perfect situation and got lucky. His son has 2 tbs who are doing all the work. Shows how low class his dad his to ahow his bitterness.

I will see his dad at the cfp game Monday. Trust me, I will be a smart *** to him. This article and gis statements have already ****ed off lot of boosters

****, that's some serious comparison there - he must be an @ss if he's in Lavar's class. That said, nobody is worse than Lavar in my book.

 

[Dawgcane]

Richt had Eason signed and Hockman committed, plus had he stayed at Ga was the leader for the kid Clemson is getting this year. That is about as star studded at QB as you need. Think Bobo and Richt waited to late when offering Watson as he was similar to Fields in that he really came on his final 2 years. Several within Ga fanbase think Fromm pops Pizzed at Richt for not offering .

 

[Dawgcane]

Richt had Eason signed and Hockman committed, plus had he stayed at Ga was the leader for the kid Clemson is getting this year. That is about as star studded at QB as you need. Think Bobo and Richt waited to late when offering Watson as he was similar to Fields in that he really came on his final 2 years. Several within Ga fanbase think Fromm pops Pizzed at Richt for not offering .

One other quote heard living here in Gwinnett is pops said Richt ended up where he would never win over 9-10 games.

 

[TexasCane90]

Wasnt this kid a Jr when richt got canned?? and Smart took over with his staff and began his evals??

Im sure that Richt prbly saw the writing on the wall half way sometime during the season and he prbly checked out a bit long term trying on the short term to save his job

Like others have said its not like this kid was Vick, Watson, v.Young etc....

 

[Skip Cane]

Everybody misses here and there. Hickman was a top recruit.

 

[KANE]

His dad is an ***. Worse than lavar ball. Yes he is ****ed richt recruited hockman over his son. Now he walks around with a chip on his shoulder like I told yall ****ers. His son would have rode the bench for at least 3 yrs at bama. Gis son walked into a perfect situation and got lucky. His son has 2 tbs who are doing all the work. Shows how low class his dad his to ahow his bitterness.

I will see his dad at the cfp game Monday. Trust me, I will be a smart *** to him. This article and gis statements have already ****ed off lot of boosters

This! I know his dad and the above statement is true. He used to try to force his way into coaches meetings on Sundays to “help” with game planning. He’s just salty as ****. He moved his other sons to a school across town cause the new coach at the old high school wasn’t going along with that arrangement. Then this prick went and recruited like 4-5 other kids from the old school to join his sons. Basically destroying the old teams season.