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NVA CANE

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I just want to know what Al Golden wanted to do to improve a defense that the people that say the team lacks so much talent that the results of last year and this year have been acceptable or understandable.

Did Al Golden implement his system last year? If so then why haven't those young guys (2011, 2012 classes) not only fail to improve but regress? If he only implemented it this year (which I believe he said is the case) why did he waste a whole year not implementing his system so those young guys can learn it? Why wait to teach your system?

I want the its a lack of talent people to answer these questions for me.
 
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I've got a simple question for you.

Why do you have to start so many new threads that are basically saying/questioning the same things?
 
Big Sky Cane said:
I've got a simple question for you.

Why do you have to start so many new threads that are basically saying/questioning the same things?
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I've started four.

My Daily count
The article about the defense, which was enlightening
The late night drunk post
This one

Are they not legitimate questions? I can rephrase them if you would like? I don't think the question has been answered any way.

Since the talent level is supposedly not up to par with some MAC teams, what did Al Golden do to mitigate the talent deficiency since its the players and not the coaches?
 
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NVA CANE said:
Big Sky Cane said:
I've got a simple question for you.

Why do you have to start so many new threads that are basically saying/questioning the same things?
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I've started four.

My Daily count
The article about the defense, which was enlightening
The late night drunk post
This one

Are they not legitimate questions? I can rephrase them if you would like? I don't think the question has been answered any way.

Since the talent level is supposedly not up to par with some MAC teams, what did Al Golden do to mitigate the talent deficiency since its the players and not the coaches?
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This is a new issue and a legit question.

Keep the pressure on, NVA.
 
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NVA CANE said:
I just want to know what Al Golden wanted to do to improve a defense that the people that say the team lacks so much talent that the results of last year and this year have been acceptable or understandable.

Did Al Golden implement his system last year? If so then why haven't those young guys (2011, 2012 classes) not only fail to improve but regress? If he only implemented it this year (which I believe he said is the case) why did he waste a whole year not implementing his system so those young guys can learn it? Why wait to teach your system?

I want the its a lack of talent people to answer these questions for me.
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IMO, he didn't implement it more last year because of the 2011 class, which he knew was mostly a bunch of 'bodies'. He knew last year's defense would suck. I'm just guessing here, but I bet if he knew that the offense would be as bad as it's been this year, he may have pulled the reigns on any changes to the defense this year.

I'm not sure who in the 2011 and 2012 classes you are accusing of 'regressing' (I'll assume you are only talking about defense, too)...Pierre and Chickillo maybe? Certainly not Armbrister or Perryman. I don't see anyone from 2012 who could possibly have regressed (as if that would even be a legit thing to evaluate at this point).

Edit: I'm also guessing that he felt they needed another year of UTough.
 
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What? Certainly not Armbrister?? Are you serious? Armbrister is the most out of position, never takes the proper angles on tackles, always trying to arm tackle somebody, and scared of contact. Re-watch the UNC, FAU, Florida, FSU, Va Tech, and Duke games again please and really focus on armbrister, cornelius, a. crawford, highsmith, gaines and I bet you will be like they were PUTRID. They have no business being on the field of play at the U, as a matter of fact, the U I know and love, those guys wouldn't rate on the scout team.
 
theibisrules said:
What? Certainly not Armbrister?? Are you serious? Armbrister is the most out of position, never takes the proper angles on tackles, always trying to arm tackle somebody, and scared of contact. Re-watch the UNC, FAU, Florida, FSU, Va Tech, and Duke games again please and really focus on armbrister, cornelius, a. crawford, highsmith, gaines and I bet you will be like they were PUTRID. They have no business being on the field of play at the U, as a matter of fact, the U I know and love, those guys wouldn't rate on the scout team.
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What did Armbrister do last year to say that he 'regressed' though? And I totally agree on the names you listed as not being UM caliber talent. Perhaps that has a lot to do with how bad the defense is????
 
Ask yourself this question, do we have a single player on defense to gameplan around?

Now ask this, do you not see at least 4 players in Renfrow, TC, AJ and Gaines that you could exploit?

Just like Luther Maddy from VT would make plays in this scheme, just like Jeremy Cash from Duke would make plays. Why? because they are good players.
 
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QuadCityCane said:
Ask yourself this question, do we have a single player on defense to gameplan around?

Now ask this, do you not see at least 4 players in Renfrow, TC, AJ and Gaines that you could exploit?

Just like Luther Maddy from VT would make plays in this scheme, just like Jeremy Cash from Duke would make plays. Why? because they are good players.
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Based of the teams we have played this year we should be further along with defensive cohesion. Guys should know each others tendencies well enough now to where everyone is playing on the same page.
 
I'm sorry I had more pressing stuff to do (like watch the Duke hoops game on espnu). But we shouldn't also regardless of non UM caliber talent be getting ran out the building. Point in hand, the Duke loss, when Brandon Connette came into the game EVERYONE knew it was going to be a qb run, not once did our guys get close to him, he scored 4 times off the same play.
 
theibisrules said:
I'm sorry I had more pressing stuff to do (like watch the Duke hoops game on espnu). But we shouldn't also regardless of non UM caliber talent be getting ran out the building. Point in hand, the Duke loss, when Brandon Connette came into the game EVERYONE knew it was going to be a qb run, not once did our guys get close to him, he scored 4 times off the same play.
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If everyone knew it was going to be a run, dont you think a decent player would eventually stop it? That someone, anyone would step up and make a play 1 time regardless of scheme?
 
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QuadCityCane said:
theibisrules said:
I'm sorry I had more pressing stuff to do (like watch the Duke hoops game on espnu). But we shouldn't also regardless of non UM caliber talent be getting ran out the building. Point in hand, the Duke loss, when Brandon Connette came into the game EVERYONE knew it was going to be a qb run, not once did our guys get close to him, he scored 4 times off the same play.
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If everyone knew it was going to be a run, dont you think a decent player would eventually stop it? That someone, anyone would step up and make a play 1 time regardless of scheme?
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If they are not in unison or have player leadership or accountability or even coaches telling them hey watch out for this or that then this mess is what you have. My point is this, those coaches AL GOLDEN included must set the tone for them and not let up one bit. If you know you don't have any leaders on the defensive unit then you must lead them yourself. Blaming players is not leadership.
 
theibisrules said:
QuadCityCane said:
Ask yourself this question, do we have a single player on defense to gameplan around?

Now ask this, do you not see at least 4 players in Renfrow, TC, AJ and Gaines that you could exploit?

Just like Luther Maddy from VT would make plays in this scheme, just like Jeremy Cash from Duke would make plays. Why? because they are good players.
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Based of the teams we have played this year we should be further along with defensive cohesion. Guys should know each others tendencies well enough now to where everyone is playing on the same page.
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I agree with that. The coaches need to do better.
 
theibisrules said:
QuadCityCane said:
theibisrules said:
I'm sorry I had more pressing stuff to do (like watch the Duke hoops game on espnu). But we shouldn't also regardless of non UM caliber talent be getting ran out the building. Point in hand, the Duke loss, when Brandon Connette came into the game EVERYONE knew it was going to be a qb run, not once did our guys get close to him, he scored 4 times off the same play.
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If everyone knew it was going to be a run, dont you think a decent player would eventually stop it? That someone, anyone would step up and make a play 1 time regardless of scheme?
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If they are not in unison or have player leadership or accountability or even coaches telling them hey watch out for this or that then this mess is what you have. My point is this, those coaches AL GOLDEN included must set the tone for them and not let up one bit. If you know you don't have any leaders on the defensive unit then you must lead them yourself. Blaming players is not leadership.
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I would bet the farm that the players were told that Conette would be in to run. The DL wasn't able to do anything about it from 3 yards back from where they started the play. And this crap about 'blaming the players'...pfffft. Every coach in the history of football has used the 'lack of execution' card.
 
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theibisrules said:
I would start with coaches myself, and I would do it a certain way. We have player help on the way though.
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I understand that people are ****ed at the coaches and want them gone. I'm not there yet. I want to see what they can do with better players, which it looks like they're bringing in, if their evaluations are correct, and they can develop them.
 
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